On 2011-01-05, at 8:16 AM, Phil Le Bienheureux wrote:
Hello,
I am quite new to development in python, and as a first contribution to the
community, I have provided a patch to the issue 8033 (quite trivial). I then
ran the test suite an everything was ok. However, the status has not
On 1/4/2011 6:39 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
So, that significantly weakens the argument that this optimization
will break unit tests, since I am happy to promise never to optimize
these builtins, and any other builtins intended for I/O.
This is one comprehensible rule rather than a list of
On 1/5/2011 1:18 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 04:13, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
Your call as the author, but please reconsider this one. I've found it
*hugely* convenient over the years to have these task oriented answers
in the FAQ. The problem with the
Hello everyone,
My name is Yeswanth . I am doing my third year Btech in Computer Science
in India. My desire is to get into gsoc 2011 . I have been looking over
the projects of last year to see where I would fit in. And I found
python to be interesting, something I can contribute. I dont know
Currently [1], the implementation and the documentation for PEP 3118's
Py_buffer struct don't line up (there's an extra field in the
implementation that the PEP doesn't mention).
Accordingly, Mark and I think it may be a good idea to leave this
structure (and possibly related APIs) out of the
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Currently [1], the implementation and the documentation for PEP 3118's
Py_buffer struct don't line up (there's an extra field in the
implementation that the PEP doesn't mention).
I think there are actually two such fields:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:55:55 +
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Currently [1], the implementation and the documentation for PEP 3118's
Py_buffer struct don't line up (there's an extra field in the
How about not changing semantics and still making this optimization possible?
PyPy already has CALL_LIKELY_BUILTIN which checks whether builtins has
been altered (by keeping a flag on the module dictionary) and if not,
loads a specific builtin on top of value stack. From my current
experience, I
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding. What's the responsibility of a buffer
export w.r.t. the obj field---i.e., what should 3rd party code be
Grr. *buffer exporter*, not *buffer export*.
Mark
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:55:55 +
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
The need for obj is a little ugly: as far as I can tell, it's
meaningless for a 3rd-party object that wants to export buffers---it's
only
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:03:41 +
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:55:55 +
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
The need for obj is a little ugly: as far as I can tell, it's
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding. What's the responsibility of a buffer
export w.r.t. the obj field---i.e., what should 3rd party code be
filling that obj field with in a call to getbuffer?
It should be a pointer to the
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
Given the rule garbage in - garbage out, I'd do the most useful
thing, which would be to produce a longer output string (and update
the docs). This would match the behavior of e.g. '%04d' % y when y
. If that means
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:33:55 -0500
Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
Given the rule garbage in - garbage out, I'd do the most useful
thing, which would be to produce a longer output string (and
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
..
Couldn't we deprecate and remove time.accept2dyear? It has been there
for backward compatibility since Python 1.5.2.
It will be useful for another 50 years or so. (POSIX 2-digit years
cover 1969 - 2068.) In any
Mark Dickinson, 05.01.2011 13:55:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Currently [1], the implementation and the documentation for PEP 3118's
Py_buffer struct don't line up (there's an extra field in the
implementation that the PEP doesn't mention).
I think there are actually
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
How about not changing semantics and still making this optimization possible?
PyPy already has CALL_LIKELY_BUILTIN which checks whether builtins has
been altered (by keeping a flag on the module dictionary) and if not,
To those that want to keep those steps in the dev FAQ, go ahead but I
recuse myself from maintaining it. Having had so many instances of
people asking how do I do this? and me almost always able to go
read the dev FAQ has basically made me feel like it is not worth the
effort if people are not
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:18:00 +0530, yeswanth swamiyeswa...@hotmail.com wrote:
My name is Yeswanth . I am doing my third year Btech in Computer Science
[...]
Can anyone suggest me some areas where I can actually start with
developing for this proje
Welcome, Yeswanth. Great idea to get
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 05:48, yeswanth swamiyeswa...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
My name is Yeswanth . I am doing my third year Btech in Computer Science in
India. My desire is to get into gsoc 2011 . I have been looking over the
projects of last year to see where I would fit in. And I
Am 05.01.2011 12:48, schrieb yeswanth:
Hello everyone,
My name is Yeswanth . I am doing my third year Btech in Computer Science
in India. My desire is to get into gsoc 2011 . I have been looking over
the projects of last year to see where I would fit in. And I found
python to be interesting,
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
..
Couldn't we deprecate and remove time.accept2dyear? It has been there
for backward compatibility since Python 1.5.2.
It
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
..
extending accepted range is a borderline case IMO.
I like accepting all years = 1 when accept2dyear is False.
Why = 1? Shouldn't it be = 1900 - maxint? Also, what is your take
on always accepting [1000 - 1899]?
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
..
extending accepted range is a borderline case IMO.
I like accepting all years = 1 when accept2dyear is False.
Why = 1?
On Jan 5, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Shouldn't the logic be to take the current year into account? By the
time 2070 comes around, I'd expect 70 to refer to 2070, not to 1970.
In fact, I'd expect it to refer to 2070 long before 2070 comes around.
All of which makes me think
Issue #7995: When calling accept() on a socket with a timeout, the returned
socket is now always non-blocking, regardless of the operating system.
Seems clear enough
+# Issue #7995: if no default timeout is set and the listening
+# socket had a (non-zero) timeout, force the
+The shortest, simplest way of running the test suite is::
+
+./python -m test
Not on Windows.
C:\Programs\Python32./python -m test
'.' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
python -m test
works (until it failed, separate issue).
I would
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:21:23 -0500
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
Issue #7995: When calling accept() on a socket with a timeout, the returned
socket is now always non-blocking, regardless of the operating system.
Seems clear enough
+# Issue #7995: if no default timeout
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
..
Why = 1?
Because that's what the datetime module accepts.
What the datetime module accepts is irrelevant here. Note that
functions affected by accept2dyear are: time.mktime(), time.asctime(),
time.strftime() and
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:43:32 -0500
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
Not on Windows.
C:\Programs\Python32./python -m test
'.' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
python -m test
works (until it failed, separate issue).
This will not
+Running
+---
Is there a way to skip a particular test, such as one that crashes the
test process?
Terry
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On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
..
Why = 1?
Because that's what the datetime module accepts.
What the datetime module accepts is irrelevant here.
Not
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:00, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
+Running
+---
Is there a way to skip a particular test, such as one that crashes the test
process?
-x {list of tests to skip}
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:00:18 -0500
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
+Running
+---
Is there a way to skip a particular test, such as one that crashes the
test process?
-x test_foo
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On Jan 5, 2011 4:45 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
+The shortest, simplest way of running the test suite is::
+
+./python -m test
Not on Windows.
C:\Programs\Python32./python -m test
'.' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
To test Brett's test running instruction, I ran
python -m test # not ./Python!
in a Command Prompt window
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
== CPython 3.2b2 (r32b2:87398, Dec 19 2010, 22:51:00)
[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
== Windows-XP-5.1.2600-SP3 little-endian
==
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:47, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
To test Brett's test running instruction, I ran
python -m test # not ./Python!
in a Command Prompt window
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
== CPython 3.2b2 (r32b2:87398, Dec 19 2010, 22:51:00)
[MSC v.1500 32
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:56, Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:47, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
To test Brett's test running instruction, I ran
python -m test # not ./Python!
in a Command Prompt window
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On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
..
If they both impose some arbitrary limits, it would be easier for
users to remember the limits if they were the same for both modules.
Unfortunately, that is not possible on 32-bit systems where range
supported by say
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
To test Brett's test running instruction, I ran
python -m test # not ./Python!
in a Command Prompt window
Does it behave itself if you add -x test_capi to the command line?
Cheers,
Nick.
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I'm sorry, but at this point I'm totally confused about what you're
asking or proposing. You keep referring to various implementation
details and behaviors. Maybe if you summarized how the latest
implementation (say python 3.2) works and what you propose to change
that would be quicker than this
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:11 AM, brett.cannon python-check...@python.org wrote:
+.. todo::
+ See if tempfile or test.support has a context manager that creates and
+ deletes a temp file so as to move off of test.support.TESTFN.
Yeah, tempfile.TemporaryFile and friends all support the CM
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
I'm sorry, but at this point I'm totally confused about what you're
asking or proposing. You keep referring to various implementation
details and behaviors. Maybe if you summarized how the latest
implementation (say
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
I'm sorry, but at this point I'm totally confused about what you're
asking or proposing. You keep referring to various
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
..
I propose to change that to
if y 1000:
if accept2dyear:
if 69 = y = 99:
y += 1900
elif 0 = y = 68:
y += 2000
else:
raise ValueError(year out of range)
#
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
..
But what guarantees do we have that the system functions accept
negative values for tm_year on all relevant platforms?
Also note that the subject of this thread is limited to time.asctime
and time.ctime. The other
On 1/5/2011 5:57 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:43:32 -0500
Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote:
Not on Windows.
C:\Programs\Python32./python -m test
Installation, not checkout.
'.' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
On 1/5/2011 5:43 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:21:23 -0500
Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote:
Thank you for spotting the contradiction; this is now fixed.
I am following your example of looking at checkins.
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On 1/5/2011 8:59 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote:
To test Brett's test running instruction, I ran
python -m test # not ./Python!
in a Command Prompt window
Does it behave itself if you add -x test_capi to the command line?
No, it
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:34:11 -0500
python -m test
works (until it failed, separate issue).
This will not run the right interpreter, unless this is an installed
build.
It is, from 32b2.msi. I have no compiler ;-).
Ah, sorry. For the devguide, however, I recommend assuming an
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