On 24 Nov 2014 10:41, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 23, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info
wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:55:50AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
But I strongly believe that if we want to do the right thing for the
long term, we
On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:49 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
I took the git knowledge I acquired by necessity at Red Hat and
figured out how to apply it to hg. All the same features are there in
hg, they're just switched off by default (mainly because the core
Mercurial devs are adamant that any
On 24 November 2014 at 10:20, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Another aspect that can be somewhat annoying is the terminology
conflict between branches in the git sense and bookmarks vs named
branches in the Mercurial sense.
This is probably the thing that hurts me most in git/hg
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes:
Are you volunteering to write a competing PEP for a migration to git
and GitHub?
Anyone who does decide to propose either Git or GitHub for hosting
Python resources: Please don't conflate the two.
Git is a community-supported free-software DVCS system
On 24 November 2014 at 22:01, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
No, I'm not offering to write such a PEP either. I'm requesting that we
recognise that a promotion of GitHub needs to account for its downsides
too, and
On Nov 24, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 November 2014 at 22:01, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
No, I'm not offering to write such a PEP either. I'm requesting that we
On Nov 24, 2014, at 4:12 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Nov 2014 10:41, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io
mailto:don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 23, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info
mailto:st...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014
On Nov 24, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 November 2014 at 02:55, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Sun Nov 23 2014 at 6:18:46 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Those features are readily accessible without changing the underlying
version
On Nov 24, 2014 3:12 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Nov 2014 10:41, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 23, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info
wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:55:50AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
But I strongly
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014, at 00:33, David Bolen wrote:
Yeah, it definitely needs it. Historically it was intentional as my own
servers were all on 8.04, but the last of those moved 12.04 last year.
I think there's already a 12.04 buildbot, so perhaps 14.04 would be
better? I do prefer
On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 2:25:30 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 November 2014 at 02:55, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Sun Nov 23 2014 at 6:18:46 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
wrote:
Those features are readily accessible without changing the underlying
version
On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 2:25:30 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
That
outcome would be the antithesis of the PSF's overall mission,
This might be a little controversial, but the
On Nov 24, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you volunteering to write a competing PEP for a migration to git and
GitHub?
If nobody steps up to do this (and another PEP isn’t accepted before then) I can
likely write something up over the upcoming holiday.
---
Is there snapshotting?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you volunteering to write a competing PEP for a migration to git and
GitHub?
If nobody steps up to do this (and another
On 11/23/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
It wouldn#39;t be so bad if we had the occasional generator author writing
raise StopIteration instead of return to exit from a generator. (We could
just add a recommendation against this to the style guide.) But the problem
is that an unguarded next()
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 2:25:30 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
That
outcome would be the antithesis of the PSF's overall mission,
This might
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Isaac Schwabacher ischwabac...@wisc.edu
wrote:
On 11/23/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
It wouldn't be so bad if we had the occasional generator author writing
raise StopIteration instead of return to exit from a generator. (We
could just add a recommendation
On 25 Nov 2014 02:28, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 2:25:30 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 November 2014 at 02:55, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Sun Nov 23 2014 at 6:18:46 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
wrote:
Those features are
On Nov 24, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 25 Nov 2014 02:28, Brett Cannon br...@python.org
mailto:br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 2:25:30 AM Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 November 2014 at
On 25 Nov 2014 06:25, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
It may not have been Guido's intention, but his proposal to undercut the
entire Python based version control tooling ecosystem by deeming it
entirely unfit for our
On 24/11/2014 02:59, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Nov 23, 2014, at 08:55 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
- Moving from Hg to Git is a fair amount of one-time work
For anyone seriously interested in this, even experimentally, I would highly
suggest looking at Eric Raymond's reposurgeon code. You can
On Nov 24, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 25 Nov 2014 06:25, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io
mailto:don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
It may not have been Guido's
On 11/24/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Isaac Schwabacher
ischwabac...@wisc.edu(javascript:main.compose() wrote:
On 11/23/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
It wouldn't be so bad if we had the occasional generator author writing
raise StopIteration instead
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Isaac Schwabacher ischwabac...@wisc.edu
wrote:
On 11/24/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Isaac Schwabacher
ischwabac...@wisc.edu(javascript:main.compose() wrote:
On 11/23/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
It wouldn't be so
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
There's a new PEP proposing to change how to treat StopIteration bubbling
up out of a generator frame (not caused by a return from the frame). The
proposal is to replace such a StopIteration with a RuntimeError (chained
On 11/24/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Isaac Schwabacher ischwabac...@wisc.edu
ischwabac...@wisc.edu') target=1ischwabac...@wisc.edu wrote:
On 11/24/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Isaac Schwabacher
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Isaac Schwabacher ischwabac...@wisc.edu
wrote:
On 11/24/14, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Isaac Schwabacher
ischwabac...@wisc.edu ischwabac...@wisc.edu') target=1
ischwabac...@wisc.edu wrote:
On 11/24/14, Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org
wrote:
There's a new PEP proposing to change how to treat StopIteration bubbling
up out of a generator frame (not caused by a
On 11/24/2014 08:36 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
This might be a little controversial, but the PSF's mission should not
influence a decision of python-dev.
Yet what we do can reinforce, or undermine, the PSF.
The only reason we didn't go with
On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 11/24/2014 08:36 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
This might be a little controversial, but the PSF's mission should not
influence a decision of python-dev.
Yet what we do
On 11/24/2014 06:27 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
It is sounding to me like GitHub is not, itself, an open solution, even
though
they may support open source.
I’d agree if the tooling was comparable, but at the end of the day the closed
source
On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 11/24/2014 06:27 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
It is sounding to me like GitHub is not, itself, an open solution, even
though
they may support open source.
I’d agree if
On 25 November 2014 at 10:47, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
In my defense, the docs for the warnings module on docs.python.org at start
like this:
Warning messages are typically issued in situations where it is useful to
alert the user of some condition in a program, where that
On 22/11/2014 22:10, Steve Dower wrote:
Just attracting some attention to http://bugs.python.org/issue22919
for those of us who build Python out of the PCBuild folder. More
details/patches there, but the tl;dr is
* Still works with VS 2010 (and now VS 2013 and VS 2015 too) * Build
time should
On 25 November 2014 at 13:18, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
There’s also the social aspects of it as well which is a big concern too IMO.
If you want to attract new contributors, not just keep the ones you already
have sometimes that means going to where the new contributors are
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