[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] The second Python 3.11 beta (3.11.0b2) is available

2022-06-03 Thread Robin Becker
while sorting those I hope that b3 will still work for those case. Will the reasonable range requirement eventually be made mandatory? It does seem like a good idea. Will there be an extra beta? -- Robin Becker ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- pytho

[Python-Dev] is __self__ an implementation detail

2022-03-28 Thread Robin Becker
longtime python programmer I wonder if such simple cases are already optimized out in the produced bytecode; for years I have been avoiding s += 'string' and only recently found out that it was handled as a special case. -- Robin Becker __

[Python-Dev] Re: compiled python3.10 is unable to find _ssl

2021-10-20 Thread Robin Becker
t might be impossible as the test might need to actually try and build _ssl.so. -- Robin Becker ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/li

[Python-Dev] Re: compiled python3.10 is unable to find _ssl

2021-10-19 Thread Robin Becker
On 19/10/2021 11:21, Christian Heimes wrote: On 19/10/2021 11.57, Robin Becker wrote: .. For PEP 644 I added new instructions how to build Python 3.10 with custom OpenSSL builds. The instructions should work on all major Linux distributions. They have been tested on Debian-like and

[Python-Dev] Re: compiled python3.10 is unable to find _ssl

2021-10-19 Thread Robin Becker
ssl.so.1.1 /usr/include/openssl/ This all used to work in Python 3.9.x, but I suppose some improvement(s) have been made. -- Robin Becker ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python

[Python-Dev] Re: change of behaviour for '.' in sys.path between 3.10.0a7 and 3.10.0b1

2021-06-05 Thread Robin Becker
e pkgutils or pkg_resources to mess with these new-fangled packages. Likewise I find that the python statement 'import A' also doesn't fail and A is a namespace. I feel quite stupid now :( -- Robin Becker ___ Python-Dev mailing list --

[Python-Dev] Re: change of behaviour for '.' in sys.path between 3.10.0a7 and 3.10.0b1

2021-06-03 Thread Robin Becker
in 3.10.0a7 I occasionally see a problem, but in 3.10.0b1 or b2 I see the problem every time; the TB ends like this print(recursiveImport(mn, debug=1)) File "/home/robin/devel/reportlab/REPOS/timpbug/tests/timport-310b1.py", line 36, in recursiveImport return importlib.impo

[Python-Dev] change of behaviour for '.' in sys.path between 3.10.0a7 and 3.10.0b1

2021-06-03 Thread Robin Becker
ith different values for the target directory; the first usage seems to succeed. -- Robin Becker ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/pyth

[Python-Dev] Re: seg fault in 3.10a4

2021-01-17 Thread Robin Becker
/Pillow/commit/543fa2ceb78103c7ae098900c315748a9283e4d4 Victor Thanks for that. I might try to build pillow from git and see if that helps. ...-- Robin Becker ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python

[Python-Dev] Re: seg fault in 3.10a4

2021-01-17 Thread Robin Becker
On 17/01/2021 13:49, Terry Reedy wrote: On 1/17/2021 8:05 AM, Stestagg wrote: Hi Robin It would be ideal if you could please create a new issue here: https://bugs.python.org/ <https://bugs.python.org/> If 'reportlab userguide creation' uses any 3rd party compiled C c

[Python-Dev] seg fault in 3.10a4

2021-01-17 Thread Robin Becker
.6 + 0x7f5e8) #3 0x7f7c9bfbc27a malloc_printerr (libc.so.6 + 0x8727a) #4 0x7f7c9bfbd64c _int_free (libc.so.6 + 0x8864c) #5 0x5631260a01dd n/a (/home/robin/devel/reportlab/.py310/bin/python310 + 0x1401dd) 1) I compile this from source

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 642: Constraint Pattern Syntax for Structural Pattern Matching

2020-11-19 Thread Robin Becker
examples, but I guess the PEPs will have to do for now. It's unlikely I will need any of this for a while so examples will appear over time. -- Robin Becker ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-d

[Python-Dev] PEP 642: Constraint Pattern Syntax for Structural Pattern Matching

2020-11-18 Thread Robin Becker
verse? -- Robin Becker ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/pytho

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 622 version 2 (Structural Pattern Matching)

2020-07-10 Thread robin
If we are still not certain about the exact language to describe match then I would ask if the 'case' token is really required. It seems that I would prefer match expr: pattern0: block0 pattern1: block1 . else: blockdefault where the else: clause is optional.

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.9.0a6 is now available for testing

2020-04-29 Thread robin
Sorry for noise, but obviously most of my pasted text went wrong; not sure how to use this modern mailman. I see a syntax error in 3.9a6 with the code norm=lambda m: m+(m and(m[-1]!='\n'and'\n'or'')or'\n') ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@pytho

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.9.0a6 is now available for testing

2020-04-29 Thread robin
While testing 3.9a6 in the reportlab package I see this difference from 3.8.2; I built from source using the standard configure make dance. Is this a real change? robin@minikat:~/devel/reportlab/REPOS/reportlab/tests $ python Python 3.8.2 (default, Apr 8 2020, 14:31:25) [GCC 9.3.0] on linux

Re: [Python-Dev] Backport PEP 3129: Class Decorators

2008-01-08 Thread Robin Stocker
) after I have finished backporting PEP 3102 (keyword-only arguments) (issue1745). Could someone with access rights update the spreadsheet so there won't be duplicated efforts? http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pCKY4oaXnT81FrGo3ShGHGg&g

Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-12-01 Thread Robin Bryce
Fair enough. Robin On 30/11/06, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin Bryce schrieb: > > Yes, especially with the regard to the level you pitch for LSB. I > > would go as far as to say that if this "contract in spirit" is broken > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-11-29 Thread Robin Bryce
y to get positive confirmation I'm using the "Canonical" variant (pun intended) python -c "from distutils.util import get_platform; print get_platform()" Tells me nothing about the vendor of my linux distribution. Except, ironically, when it says ImportError Cheers, Robin

Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-11-28 Thread Robin Bryce
viable on more than linux. Is it unreasonable for a particular vendor to decide that, on their platform, the will disable Python's packaging conventions ? Is there any way to keep the peace on this one ? Cheers, Robin On 27/11/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5b3, commit r46372 regressed PEP 302 machinery (sf not letting me post)

2006-08-09 Thread Robin Bryce
This has an sf number now #1537167, and hopefully a clearer explanation of what I think the problem is. This is not a duplicate of the earlier "PEP 302 Fix" thread. Thanks, Robin On 07/08/06, Robin Bryce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Appologies for the lack of

[Python-Dev] 2.5b3, commit r46372 regressed PEP 302 machinery (sf not letting me post)

2006-08-07 Thread Robin Bryce
eagal' module paths is actualy independent of the regresion I am asserting. Detailed session logs are attatched (following the sf guidance even though I'm posting to py-dev) The 'use case' for the importer is: Robin wants to package a default template file as normal python module

Re: [Python-Dev] Explicit Lexical Scoping (pre-PEP?)

2006-07-11 Thread Robin Bryce
en I spell the usual mutables kluge. 3 statement is positive form 4. I like it could not find a use of outbound in python source (2.4.3) [1] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=outbound Robin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3103: A Switch/Case Statement

2006-06-27 Thread Robin Bryce
> But what's the point? We have until Python 3000 anyway. Ah, my mistake. In my enthusiasm, I foolishly got the time frames of peps 3103 & 275 mixed up. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev U

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3103: A Switch/Case Statement

2006-06-27 Thread Robin Bryce
is that static/const will evolve as a sibling pep, does this not make Raymond's suggestion any more appealing, even a little ? Is it unacceptable - or impractical - to break the addition of switch to python in two (minor version separated) steps ? Robin ___

Re: [Python-Dev] No more problems with new SVN repository

2005-11-03 Thread Robin Munn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Munn wrote: > So doing an SVK mirror of the repository should work now, barring > any further surprises. I'm starting the SVK sync now; we'll see what > happens. Confirmed; the SVK mirror took about 18 hours, but it complete

Re: [Python-Dev] Problems with revision 4077 of new SVN repository

2005-11-03 Thread Robin Munn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Robin Munn wrote: > >>> Revision 4077 is fine now. However, the same problem exists in revision >>> 4284, which has a 0x01 character before the word "add". Same solution: > > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Problems with revision 4077 of new SVN repository

2005-11-02 Thread Robin Munn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Munn wrote: > Revision 4077 is fine now. However, the same problem exists in revision > 4284, which has a 0x01 character before the word "add". Same solution: > > echo "New commit message goes here" > new-mes

Re: [Python-Dev] Problems with revision 4077 of new SVN repository

2005-11-02 Thread Robin Munn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Robin Munn wrote: > >> echo "New commit message goes here" > new-message.txt >> svnadmin setlog --bypass-hooks -r 4077 /path/to/repos new-message.txt > > > Thanks for pointing tha

[Python-Dev] Problems with revision 4077 of new SVN repository

2005-11-02 Thread Robin Munn
ning the following: echo "New commit message goes here" > new-message.txt svnadmin setlog --bypass-hooks -r 4077 /path/to/repos new-message.txt If there are other, similar problems later in the SVN repository, I was unable to find them because the SVK mirror process consistently halt

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 340 - possible new name for block-statement

2005-04-28 Thread Robin Munn
using EXPR as VAR: ~BLOCK Reads similarly to "with", but leaves the "with" keyword open for possible use later. Since it seems traditional for one to introduce oneself upon first posting to python-dev, my name is Robin Munn. Yes, my name is just one letter different from R