Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-23 Thread Paul Moore
On 8/22/05, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Y Knight wrote: > > It seems a waste to use SVN's webdav support just for anon access. > > The svnserve method works well for anon access. The only reason to > > use svn webdav IMO is if you want to use that for authenticated > > acce

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-23 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Barry Warsaw wrote: >>Not sure what "the right place" would be: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>I think the email could look any way we want it to look. > > > I think it should be @python.org where is the > firstname.lastname (with some exceptions) scheme that we've agreed on. > I actually /don't/ want all

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread David Bolen
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It worked. I made a trivial change to Misc/NEWS and checked it in. I then > > ran "svn blame NEWS" to see what it showed. This took approximately > > forever. Can I assume this is one thing svn is always going to be p

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It worked. I made a trivial change to Misc/NEWS and checked it in. I then > ran "svn blame NEWS" to see what it showed. This took approximately > forever. Can I assume this is one thing svn is always going to be pretty > slow at? Yes. Somebody commented that this is

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > You can do that with viewcvs, too. Viewcvs can also create tarballs for > easy downloading, and has a lot of browsing and viewing options that the > SVN webdav mode doesn't. True. I had some issues with viewcvs, though: you cannot provide access control easily, as you cann

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread skip
>> I think until this experiment is over and we have really and truly >> migrated to svn I will simply let other people fuss with things. Martin> Well, you are not required to understand it, but you should try Martin> to use it. Good point. Martin> Just check out Martin

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:23 PM 8/22/2005 +0200, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >James Y Knight wrote: > > It seems a waste to use SVN's webdav support just for anon access. > > The svnserve method works well for anon access. The only reason to > > use svn webdav IMO is if you want to use that for authenticated > > access. Bu

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:16, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: > > I think technically, the answer to that is "yes", you will automatically > > get access to the source repo. > > At the moment, the answer actually is "no". For the projects repository, > there is no group write permiss

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
James Y Knight wrote: > It seems a waste to use SVN's webdav support just for anon access. > The svnserve method works well for anon access. The only reason to > use svn webdav IMO is if you want to use that for authenticated > access. But since you're talking about using svn+ssh for that..

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > More confusion here. If I use some sort of shared access how will the > system ascribe changes I make to me and not, for example, Martin? In pythondev's authorized_keys2, we have a line command="/usr/bin/svnserve --root=/data/repos/projects -t --tunnel-user 'Skip Monta

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Barry Warsaw wrote: > I think technically, the answer to that is "yes", you will automatically > get access to the source repo. At the moment, the answer actually is "no". For the projects repository, there is no group write permission - you must be pythondev in order to write. > The question I h

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Aahz wrote: > Yes, I know -- but it looks like a mistake to me. Are you saying that > all shell access will be done through a single account? Isn't that a > huge security risk? My understanding was that it was SVN access that > would be going through a single account, not shell access. Only few

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm completely confused about what, if anything, I need to send to you. I > can already access the python.org website repository via svn. Yes, but you do so using username/password, right? pythondev will be using svn+ssh. > Will I > automatically get access to the new

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread James Y Knight
On Aug 22, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > They are the same machine, with different IP addresses. Anonymous > webdav will require two Apache processes, since different user/groups > are needed and to support different certs for svn.python.org and > (eventually) www.python.org. > It see

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread skip
>> Will I automatically get access to the new Python source repository >> or do I need to send you pub key(s)? Barry> I think technically, the answer to that is "yes", you will Barry> automatically get access to the source repo. Okay... Barry> The question I have is whether

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 11:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm completely confused about what, if anything, I need to send to you. I > can already access the python.org website repository via svn. Will I > automatically get access to the new Python source repository or do I need to > send you pub k

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Aahz
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > Aahz wrote: >>Barry: >>>Martin: Host pythondev Hostname dinsdale.python.org User pythondev IdentityFile ~/.ssh/pythondev >>>I'm confused again; are you saying that we should have a host named >>>pythondev.python.org?

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread skip
Martin, I'm completely confused about what, if anything, I need to send to you. I can already access the python.org website repository via svn. Will I automatically get access to the new Python source repository or do I need to send you pub key(s)? Are dinsdale.python.org and svn.python.org th

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Barry Warsaw wrote: >>You could do that (or use the root account); I can't: I don't have >>a ssh account on dinsdale. An even if I had, I couldn't write to >>pythondev's authorized_keys2. > > > That's easily rectified! :) We should give you an account and sudo > access. Should I just use your k

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Aahz wrote: >>>Host pythondev >>> Hostname dinsdale.python.org >>> User pythondev >>> IdentityFile ~/.ssh/pythondev >>> >>I'm confused again; are you saying that we should have a host named >>pythondev.python.org? I'm not sure that's necessary. > > > No, pythondev is simply an SSH alias for d

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Barry Warsaw wrote: > I may be totally misunderstanding, but to get shell access wouldn't I > avoid using the pythondev account and just use my own account? You could do that (or use the root account); I can't: I don't have a ssh account on dinsdale. An even if I had, I couldn't write to pythondev

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Aahz
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 09:12, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >> >> I would suggest that the default key is used for regular commits, >> and a separate key is created for shell access. I described this >> a bit in the PEP, essentially, in .ssh/config, I have >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 09:12, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > It turns out that svn+ssh with a single account has limitations: > you can only set the tunnel user when you are using a restricted > key. In PEP 347, the plan is that the current SF project admins > get shell access to the pythondev account,

[Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
It turns out that svn+ssh with a single account has limitations: you can only set the tunnel user when you are using a restricted key. In PEP 347, the plan is that the current SF project admins get shell access to the pythondev account, which just has been created. To resolve this, project admins