Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

> On 30 Jan 2018, at 18:42, Chris Barker wrote: > > Ned, > > It looks like you're still building OS-X the same way as in the past: > > Intel 32+64 bit, 10.6 compatibility > > Is that right? > > Might it be time for an update? > > Do we still need to support 32 bit?

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

>> Ned Deily is in charge of the Mac build (as well as current release > manager). Within the last week, he revised the official builds (now two, I > believe) for 3.7.0b1, due in a day or so. One will be a future oriented > 64-bit build. The PR and What's New have more. > What's New doesn't

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:18 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:13 AM, Joni Orponen > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal < >> chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote: >> >>> And maybe we could even get

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On 1/31/2018 6:23 PM, Chris Barker wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:20 AM, INADA Naoki > wrote: > Against the official CPython 3.6 (probably .3 or .4) release I see: > 1 that is 2.01x faster (python-startup, 24.6ms down to 12.2ms)

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:20 AM, INADA Naoki wrote: > > Against the official CPython 3.6 (probably .3 or .4) release I see: > > 1 that is 2.01x faster (python-startup, 24.6ms down to 12.2ms) > > 5 that are >=1.5x,<1.6x faster. > > 13 that are >=1.4x,<1.5x faster. > > 21

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:13 AM, Joni Orponen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal < > chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote: > >> And maybe we could even get rid of the "Framework" builds.. >>> >> >> Please do not. These make life easier for

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

Doh! Thank you. Steve Holden ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

Click on "[x] horizontal" to exchange the two axis ;-) Victor 2018-01-31 16:08 GMT+01:00 Steve Holden : > The horizontal axis labelling in that graph is useless with so many tests > included! > > Would a graphic with hover labels over the bars be more useful? > > Steve

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

The horizontal axis labelling in that graph is useless with so many tests included! Would a graphic with hover labels over the bars be more useful? Steve Holden On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > There is https://speed.python.org/comparison/ to

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

There is https://speed.python.org/comparison/ to compare Python 2.7, 3.5, 3.6 and master (future 3.7). Victor Le 31 janv. 2018 13:14, "Ray Donnelly" a écrit : > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Joni Orponen > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

> > Against the official CPython 3.6 (probably .3 or .4) release I see: > 1 that is 2.01x faster (python-startup, 24.6ms down to 12.2ms) > 5 that are >=1.5x,<1.6x faster. > 13 that are >=1.4x,<1.5x faster. > 21 that are >=1.3x,<1.4x faster. > 14 that are >=1.2x,<1.3x faster. > 5 that are

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Joni Orponen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Ray Donnelly > wrote: >> >> We see a 1.1 to 1.2 times performance benefit over official releases as >> measured using 'python performance'. >> >> Apart from a

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Ray Donnelly wrote: > We see a 1.1 to 1.2 times performance benefit over official releases as > measured using 'python performance'. > > Apart from a static interpreter we also enable LTO and PGO and only build > for 64-bit so I'm not

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal < chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote: > And maybe we could even get rid of the "Framework" builds.. >> > > Please do not. These make life easier for doing things the Apple way for > signed sandboxed applications. > > Thanks — good to

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Jan 31, 2018 8:31 AM, "Ray Donnelly" wrote: On Jan 30, 2018 6:47 PM, "Joni Orponen" wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:50 PM, Ray Donnelly wrote: > While we're making such macOS-build requests, any chance of

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Jan 30, 2018 6:47 PM, "Joni Orponen" wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:50 PM, Ray Donnelly wrote: > While we're making such macOS-build requests, any chance of building a > static interpreter too? We've been doing that on the Anaconda >

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

> It would be nice to do more things the Apple way, including porting to modern > runtime feature availability check cascades of the Cocoa APIs and using the > Apple provided system Frameworks. This seems like a rather major workload and > should be targeting 3.8. Yeah — too much to do for 3.7

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

And maybe we could even get rid of the "Framework" builds.. > Please do not. These make life easier for doing things the Apple way for signed sandboxed applications. Thanks — good to hear there is a good reason for them. I’ve always thought that Frameworks were designed with other

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:50 PM, Ray Donnelly wrote: > While we're making such macOS-build requests, any chance of building a > static interpreter too? We've been doing that on the Anaconda > Distribution since the 5.0 release in September and it seems to be > working

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:08 PM, Matt Billenstein wrote: > OSX is in a sad state linking to system libs on the later releases -- maybe > 10.11 and on, not sure of the exact release -- they stopped shipping the > headers for things like ssl and ffi since they don't want 3rd

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > > And maybe we could even get rid of the "Framework" builds.. > Please do not. These make life easier for doing things the Apple way for signed sandboxed applications. Joining the discussion here from a

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 09:42:07AM -0800, Chris Barker wrote: >IT dept has been making me upgrade, so I"m going to guess 10.8 or newer... OSX is in a sad state linking to system libs on the later releases -- maybe 10.11 and on, not sure of the exact release -- they stopped shipping the

Re: [Python-Dev] OS-X builds for 3.7.0

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 5:42 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Ned, > > It looks like you're still building OS-X the same way as in the past: > > Intel 32+64 bit, 10.6 compatibility > > Is that right? > > Might it be time for an update? > > Do we still need to support 32 bit?