Thank you very much for this exhaustive explanation and example. I really
like it and agree with you that the implementation provided by your example
is much more well designed.
The problem I have with it is that I feel like it assumes that I have a way
to introduce such changes when writing the
On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 at 00:55, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
> I should have added that I also don't feel I want to go at bat to fight for
> this PEP. I do observe that it looks like the folks used to building large
> systems (in Python or other languages) don't seem to like it, while it seems
> to
On 18/10/2021 18:50, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
Your configure script did pick up openssl as the support version was not
found.
What is your operating system? Make sure you have supported version of
ssl. Python requires openssl 1.1.1 or higher.
...
I tried to build this on ubuntu 18.04, but
On 19/10/2021 11.57, Robin Becker wrote:
On 18/10/2021 18:50, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
Your configure script did pick up openssl as the support version was not
found.
What is your operating system? Make sure you have supported version of
ssl. Python requires openssl 1.1.1 or higher.
...
I
I will also say that I don't believe the safe-navigation operators necessarily
compromise type safety. PEP 505 explicitly rejects having them catch
`AttributeError` or `KeyError` (and I agree with this rejection). It's not the
default behavior of objects to return None when an unknown attribute
On 19/10/2021 17.26, Robin Becker wrote:
On 19/10/2021 11:21, Christian Heimes wrote:
On 19/10/2021 11.57, Robin Becker wrote:
..
For PEP 644 I added new instructions how to build Python 3.10 with
custom OpenSSL builds. The instructions should work on all major Linux
distributions.
Le 18/10/2021 à 20:26, Guido van Rossum a écrit :
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> y = None # Default
> if config is not None:
> handler = config.get("handler")
> if handler is not None:
> parameters = handler.get("parameters")
> if parameters is not None:
> y = parameters.get("y")
>
> […]
> Using ?. this
Steve Dower wrote:
> Okay, I'll let myself get sucked into responding ONE TIME, but only
> because you gave me such a nice API to work with :)
This actually pushed me hard towards adding the null-aware operators. I agree
that the named-function approach Paul suggests is better. I admit that
On 19/10/2021 11:21, Christian Heimes wrote:
On 19/10/2021 11.57, Robin Becker wrote:
..
For PEP 644 I added new instructions how to build Python 3.10 with custom OpenSSL builds. The instructions should work
on all major Linux distributions. They have been tested on Debian-like and
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:25 AM Baptiste Carvello
wrote:
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> Le 18/10/2021 à 20:26, Guido van Rossum a écrit :
> >
> > y = None # Default
> > if config is not None:
> > handler = config.get("handler")
> > if handler is not None:
> > parameters = handler.get("parameters")
> > if
On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 9:39 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:25 AM Baptiste Carvello
> wrote:
> >
> > Le 18/10/2021 à 20:26, Guido van Rossum a écrit :
> > >
> > > y = None # Default
> > > if config is not None:
> > > handler = config.get("handler")
> > > if handler is
Baptiste Carvello wrote:
> y = config["handler"]["parameters"]["y"] with KeyError as None
I love the look of this! While it doesn't address everything that PEP505 does,
that's IMO a good thing, because - as other people mentioned already - None
does too many things already.
On another note,
Extra info that I didn't put in the PEP to keep the PEP short.
Since Python 3.8, multiple macros have already been converted,
including Py_INCREF() and Py_TYPE() which are very commonly used and
so matter for Python performance.
Macros converted to static inline functions:
* Py_INCREF(),
One of my motivation to write this PEP was decide how to solve the
issue: "[C API] Disallow using PyFloat_AS_DOUBLE() as l-value"
https://bugs.python.org/issue45476
I proposed two fixes:
* Convert macros to static inline functions:
https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/28961
* Fix the macro,
Hi,
Erlend and me wrote a PEP to move away from macros in the Python C
API. We are now waiting for feedback :-) Read the PEP online:
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0670/
There is a copy of the PEP below for inline replies.
Victor
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PEP: 670
Title: Convert macros to functions in the
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