On 28 Apr 2014 16:19, Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Jim J. Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com
wrote:
(1) Should fixes to a docstring go in with a patch, even if they
aren't related to the changing functionality?
[...]
It is best if a commit
Steven D'Aprano writes:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:07:00PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Note that if users actually paid attention to these guidelines, we'd
be getting complaints from *them*, not from you. I don't recall ever
seeing that. That implies that normal users will
On 04/29/2014 03:07 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
I have no objection *at all* to making the change in the next feature
release. I think the good citizenship argument is more than
sufficient, ...
I'm questioning whether it is a sufficient reason to make a backwards-
incompatible change in
Hi,
Every change has pluses and minuses. I can't guarantee 100% benefits, only
trying to make the case that the benefits here outweigh them.
Since we are talking about humans, I'd gather most of them trying to install
something on Windows will have heard about ProgramFiles and not be too
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Paul Sokolovsky pmis...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, sure I did, as I mentioned, but as that's first time I see that
code (that specific piece is in typeobject.c:extra_ivars()), it would
take quite some time be sure I understand all aspects of it. Thanks for
Hi,
Stepping back a bit...
I doubt you'd take the idea this far, but that Python should need assembly by
professionals before use doesn't match its Batteries Included spirit, nor the
PC revolution for that matter.
The reason I brought up the subject at 2.7.7 is because there are greater
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Mike Miller python-...@mgmiller.net wrote:
On 04/29/2014 05:12 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
This would be an incredibly painful change that would surprise and hurt a
lot of
people.
Hi, I think incredibly painful is overstating the case a bit. ;) We're
talking
Thanks -- your memory is better than mine!
On Apr 29, 2014 8:16 AM, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Paul Sokolovsky pmis...@gmail.comwrote:
Well, sure I did, as I mentioned, but as that's first time I see that
code (that specific piece is in
Mike Miller wrote:
Every change has pluses and minuses. I can't guarantee 100% benefits, only
trying to make the case that the benefits here outweigh them.
If this is your case about the benefits, it's a weak case. Feel free to blog
about how to secure a Python installation in multi-user
Mike Miller writes:
However, this bug has been shitcanned for a decade. This is the
last chance to fix this bug in a branch that's going to be
supported until 2020!
Probably. I'm not convinced. But that doesn't really matter.
Your bigger concern is the deafening silence from the senior
Quoting Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org:
Mike Miller writes:
However, this bug has been shitcanned for a decade. This is the
last chance to fix this bug in a branch that's going to be
supported until 2020!
Probably. I'm not convinced. But that doesn't really matter.
Your
2014-04-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Claudiu Popa pcmantic...@gmail.com:
[...]
If anyone agrees with the above, then I'll modify the patch. This will
be its last iteration, any other bikeshedding
should be addressed by the core dev who'll apply it.
I'm perfectly happy with those proposals.
On 04/30/2014 04:14 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
Here are some more minuses beyond those listed on the issue:
I have to say I'm a bit baffled. I expected disagreement, but didn't expect
that multiple reasons against would be made up seemingly at random? I and a
company I work for (that
Mike Miller python-...@mgmiller.net wrote:
I have to say I'm a bit baffled. I expected disagreement, but
didn't expect that multiple reasons against would be made up
seemingly at random? I and a company I work for (that distributes
Py) have been installing Python to ProgramFiles for almost a
On 04/30/2014 04:14 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
Since we are talking about humans, I'd gather most of them trying to install
something on Windows will have heard about ProgramFiles and not be too bothered
at its inclusion in the path.
Modifying PATH is not recommended by Microsoft...
Sorry, I
Hello,
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:47:26 -0400
PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
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From memory of the last time I dealt with this, the rules were that
you could mix two classes only if their __slots__ differed from their
common __base__ by *at most* __dict__ and/or __weakref__. The dict
When I redesigned and reimplemented this part of Python inheritance
(somewhere in the 2.1 - 2.3 time frame, I forget the exact timing) I was
well aware of the C++ approach and decided against it, preferring an
approach requiring less compiler assistance that was easier for C
programmers to use and
Hello,
I've just run the testsuite of hg tip with
./python -m test -u network,urlfetch -j 8 -G -v
and it finished with
,
| [...]
| test_extract_dir (test.test_zipfile.TestWithDirectory) ... ok
| test_store_dir (test.test_zipfile.TestWithDirectory) ... ok
| test_different_file
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote:
Hello,
I've just run the testsuite of hg tip with
./python -m test -u network,urlfetch -j 8 -G -v
failfast (from -G) is passed directly to unittest.TextTestRunner
(see test/support/__init__.py:_run_suite()). However,
Gentlemen,
I'd like to politely ask for a second pair of eyes on [issue6839]. It's
been dragging for a very long time, and the fix is really a change from a
raise() to a debugging print.
Thanks in advance,
Adam Polkosnik
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 07:48:00PM -0700, Jessica McKellar wrote:
Hi Adam,
Gentlemen,
Thanks for contributing to Python! But not everyone on this list is a guy.
And not all of the guys are gentlemen :-)
The term I sometimes use is gentlefolks, or even just folks. Ladies
and gentlemen
On 29 April 2014 21:38, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
When I redesigned and reimplemented this part of Python inheritance
(somewhere in the 2.1 - 2.3 time frame, I forget the exact timing) I was
well aware of the C++ approach and decided against it, preferring an
approach requiring
On 29 April 2014 17:02, Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org wrote:
Mike Miller python-...@mgmiller.net wrote:
I have to say I'm a bit baffled. I expected disagreement, but
didn't expect that multiple reasons against would be made up
seemingly at random? I and a company I work for (that
2014-04-30 3:58 GMT+01:00 Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 07:48:00PM -0700, Jessica McKellar wrote:
Hi Adam,
Gentlemen,
Thanks for contributing to Python! But not everyone on this list is a guy.
And not all of the guys are gentlemen :-)
And I thought guys
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