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Interesting. I didn’t know that list exists. I’ll respond to your message on
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>
> I think that argument clinic knows if the built-in function is
> supposed to be a
object]
def refcount(v):
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f the test passed or failed. This only works nicely for
fairly simple tests (such as the example test in this thread), not for more
complicated and interesting tests due to having to write more C code.
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> Ronald Oussoren via Python-Dev schrieb am 06.08.2018 um 15:25:
>>> On 5 Aug 2018, at 18:14, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>>> On 5 August 2018 at 18:06, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>>> I’m not sure if I understand thi
This is an appropriate topic for pyton-ideas:
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not python-dev.
I'm sure you'll find interest in your idea there.
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> Hi python d
Student('Alice', 11)]
> print(sorted(L))
>
> Output:
> (Bob: 33) > (Tim: 22)
> *(Kevin: 11) < (Bob: 33)*
> *(Kevin: 11) < (Bob: 33)*
> (Kevin: 11) < (Tim: 22)
> (Alice: 11) < (Tim: 22)
> (Alice: 11) < (Kevin: 11)
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tom metatype in C code.
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opment of Python, not
> with it. To have a discussion about GUI programming with Python is probably
> python-list is a better place to discuss this.
>
>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 at 10:37 Kevin Kowitski via Python-Dev
>> wrote:
>> Hey Everyone!
>>
>>I am
bilities…
>>
>> 1. Article for one citation (1 DOI, generated by the publication)
>> 2. No article (many DOIs — one for each major version through Zenodo
>> <https://zenodo.org/record/1404209> (or similar service))
>>
>> Discuss.
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And it's not a "they" -- many of us on this list are part of the academic
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>> > behaviour ought to be considered a language feature, an accident of
>> > implementation, or a bug.
>> >
>> > Can we get some guidence on this please?
>>
>> This is an implementation detail. Current
it may or may not apply to
everywhere nameapaces are used in the interpreter...
> but __dict__ is described as " [a] dictionary or other mapping object".
>
exactly.
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>> O
n-deprecated replacement (introduced in 10.10).
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compiler bug, could be replaced with #pragma
optimize around entire function.
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test_load_default_certs_env_windows fails on win32 and amd64 retail. skipped
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Something like shutil.rmtree() with ignore_errors=True?
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a datetime.timedelta.total_microseconds function be a reasonable addition? I
would be happy to submit a patch for such a thing.
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A function with "microseconds" in the name IMO misleadingly suggests
that it has something closer to microsecond accuracy than a 1-second
granularity.
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> A function with "microseconds" in the name IMO misleadingly suggests that
> it has something closer to microsecond accuracy than a 1-second granularity.
>
it sure does, but `de
lse
> uses it. :)
>
And I would REALLY like it if as much was the same as possible on all
platforms...
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>>
>>
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Thanks for the feedback.
I updated the PR to use get_platform and get_host_platform.
More testing is still needed before it's ready to merge to make sure it still
does what it was intended to do.
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inner a
> écrit :
> >
> > No, I wasn't aware of this project. My starting point was:
> >
> > http://static.usenix.org/events/vee05/full_papers/p153-yunhe.pdf
> > Yunhe Shi, David Gregg, Andrew Beatty, M. Anton Ertl, 2005
> >
> > See also my email to py
k it SHOULD be done, and
then see what happens -- we don't need to make the PEP match current
practice.
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So microsecond
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we are with the governance model, so is there a
way to get a clear idea for whether it's time to drop this?
BTW, I don't think this is worth a PEP, but if I get a go-ahead, and it
needs to be written up, I'd be willing to do so.
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>From a practicality beats purity standpoint -- a few new methods (or a
single conversion method) is less pure and "correct", but also a lot more
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Did we ever hear back from the OP as to whether they were using py2 or 3?
If they were unable to find timedelta division in py3 -- that's a pretty
good case that we need something else.
The OP:
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gt;
> The OP:
> """
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 9:10 PM Richard Belleville via Python-Dev <
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>> In a recent code review, the following snippet was called out as
>> reinventing the
>> wheel:
>>
>>
limited to a py2 solution.
But di you poke around in py3 before posting?
(you should have, python-dev is really about active development, i.e.
python 3 -- but that's not the point here)
> For the moment, we've left the code as in the original snippet.
>
If you care abou
icial docs for
internal functionality
That time, they let it slide, but of course this is not something to make a
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variance = self.variance
return exp((x - self.mu)**2.0 / (-2.0*variance)) / sqrt(tau * variance)
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hiy proposed to discuss on the Python-dev mailing list.
Question: Should we drop it or add a (Pending)DeprecationWarning?
Suggestion and timeline:
3.8, we raise a PendingDeprecationWarning
* update the code
* update the documentation
* update the tests
(check a PendingDeprecat
of the various types).
This is pretty much what ctypes provides for dealing with unicode?
https://docs.python.org/3/library/ctypes.html#ctypes.create_unicode_buffer
Seems a fine place to have things that help with win32 api interactions.
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No Discourse post, because we don't have a python-dev equivalent there yet, so
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Implementation is at https://github.com/zooba/cpython/tree/pep-578/ and my backport to 3.7
(https://github.com/zooba/cpython/tree/pep-578-3.7/) is already getting some real use (thou
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I also see other undocumented behavior like accepting '>' (also
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Hi,
Two weeks ago, I started a thread "No longer enable Py_TRACE_REFS by
default in debug build", but I lost myself in details, I forgot the
main purpose of my proposal...
Let me
es` IIRC.
But building extensions is broken in this case as per
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Council's
reflection and rationale on the PEP?
+1. Specifically, I'd like to know if the risks and the potential for GitHub missing any needed features were estimated. The PEP says
nothing about this.
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As someone whose job is to diagnose and fix problems with running software:
Are there patches in your release? Do you provide corresponding sources and
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You can find the sources
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On 24.05.2019 9:55, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I don't know if this is a good idea or a terrible idea or somewhere in
between, so I'm throwing it out to se
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I don’t think this invariant holds unless comparison is order dependent. {1:2,
3:4} and {1:4, 3:2} have the same keys and values, but not the same items.
Ronald
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ts / lists / sorted lists
before comparing" ?
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(but then
again, if I don't mention this possibility, maybe someone even more
idiotic than me will suggest it ).
On 25/07/2019 00:49:56, Rob Cliffe via Python-Dev wrote:
On 25/07/2019 00:09:37, David Mertz wrote:
I agree with Greg.
There are various possible behaviors that might make
== d.items()
```
but `d.values() == d.values()` does not return the expected
results. It always returns `False`. The symmetry is a bit off.
In the bug trackers[0] and the Github PR[1], I was asked
to raise the issue on the python-dev mailing list to find
a consensus on what comparing `.values()` shoul
ing.
Since the first one appears in regexes and parameters that are Windows paths
and the second one in output messages, they do not intersect.
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e, open() is
executed at run-time.
And the use of open might be masked by using a synonym for it;
open might be shadowed by the program assigning to it;
the argument to open() might be an expression such as
("..training\new_memo" + extn) etc., etc.
Rob Cliffe
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as I expected the named tuple type to be
>>> cached based on the declared name 'f'. But it's been that way
>>forever
>>> so obviously my intuition here is wrong. But maybe it would be
>>useful
>>> for this case if there *
he tuple into its separate values.
BTW. I’m primarily trying to understand your use case because it is so similar
to what I’m doing in PyObjC, and such understanding can lead to an improvement
in PyObjC ;-).
Ronald
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estamp. No big
deal, but ...
If it is a feature for some reason, presumably it should be documented.
Best wishes
Rob Cliffe
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