Russell Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote:
I agree that a policy is a good idea, and I suggest it be primarily based on
age, since we cannot assume Apple will release new versions of the OS on a
given timeline.
I personally think too early to drop support for MacOS X 10.6 and am on the
edge about
Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote:
In article b3293155-e4d5-4389-a555-c31bc49ce...@gmail.com,
Raymond Hettinger raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 14, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
The
most recent Developer Tools for 10.8 and 10.7 systems, Xcode 4.6.x,
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Agreed, especially if the proven in the wild criterion is required
(people won't rush to another third-party distutils replacement, IMHO).
The existence of setuptools means
Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.dewrote:
On the minus side, the JIT only works on x86 and x86_64, on the plus
side, since it's 100% API compatible, it can be used as a _xxx
speedup module relatively easy.
Do
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
For the record, we don't have any stable OS X buildbots anymore.
Sigh. That's me again. We are currently installing a virtual private
cloud at our workspace, and I'm seeing a lot of intermittent failures in
that server room. I need to work out a way
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
Brett Cannon wrote:
Do we have any evidence of this alleged bitrot? I spend a lot of time on the
comp.lang.python newsgroup and I see no evidence that people using Python
Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote:
Am 29.12.2011 12:13, schrieb Mark Shannon:
The attack relies on being able to predict the hash value for a given
string. Randomising the string hash function is quite straightforward.
There is no need to change the dictionary code.
A possible
Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Bill Janssen, 09.12.2011 19:15:
I think another thing that might go into refreshing the batteries is a
feature comparison of BeautifulSoup and HTML5lib against the stdlib
competition, to see what needs to be added/revised. Having to switch
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Hey python-devers,
As I'm sure many of you are aware, Armin Ronacher posted a blog entry
explaining the reasons he dislikes Python 3 in its current form.
Whilst I don't agree with all of his complaints, he makes a fair point
about the re
Mike Meyer m...@mired.org wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 09:02:35 +0100
Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
a) The stdlib documentation should help users to choose the right
tool right from the start.
b) cElementTree should finally loose it's special status as a
separate library and
Xavier Morel python-...@masklinn.net wrote:
On 2011-12-09, at 19:15 , Bill Janssen wrote:
I use ElementTree for parsing valid XML, but minidom for producing it.
Could you expand on your reasons to use minidom for producing XML?
Inertia, I guess. I tried that first, and it seems to work.
I
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?= mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
While this is true for FORTRAN, it is not for Python 1.5: no new
Python 1.5 code is written around the world, at least not every day.
I don't know about that. I've seen a lot of Python 2 code which was
apparently written by
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:01:13 PDT
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
I see that parc-snowleopard-1 went down again. I've done a software
update, rebooted, and installed the latest buildslave, 0.8.4. I can
ping dinsdale.python.org successfully
M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
How about a more radical change: have open() in Py3 default to
opening the file in binary mode, if no encoding is given (even
if the mode doesn't include 'b') ?
+1.
That'll make it compatible to the Py2 world again and avoid
all the encoding guessing.
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
Making such default encodings depend on the locale has already
failed to work when we first introduced a default encoding in
Py2, so I don't understand why we are repeating the same
mistake again in Py3 (only in a different area).
I do not remember
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
The new regex library has some great improvements:
http://bugs.python.org/issue2636
It also has users and committed maintainers, so I hope we can bring it
into 3.3. It wasn't easy to tell from skimming the change notes that
Unicode
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Thanks. Support for Unicode character classes was one of the
improvements needed in the re module reported from the language summit
-
so I wonder if the changes in regex are sufficient.
I guess it depends on what you're asking -- what does
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
And no, the fact that methods can be treated as attributes is not a
minor detail. It is *fundamental* to Python's object model that
*methods are not a special case of attribute access*. All attributes
work the same way, it is just the way functions
I see that parc-snowleopard-1 went down again. I've done a software
update, rebooted, and installed the latest buildslave, 0.8.4. I can
ping dinsdale.python.org successfully from the machine. However, when I
start the buildslave, I get this:
$ buildslave start ~/buildarea/
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 05:01 pm, jans...@parc.com wrote:
I see that parc-snowleopard-1 went down again. I've done a software
update, rebooted, and installed the latest buildslave, 0.8.4. I can
ping dinsdale.python.org successfully from the machine. However,
when I
start
I also find http://trac.buildbot.net/ticket/1854 interesting, because
it seems a good explanation of why the build slave might go into the
zombie state of attempting to reconnect to the master.
Bill
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Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
In article 87zkmcalt8@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp,
Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Are you saying you expect Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger to go green once the
bots update? If so, I'm impressed, and thank you! to all involved.
Apple and MacPorts have
Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I am aware of this. I have fixed today most remaining issues, and
fixing the final ones right now.
Just FYI: the AMD64 Snow Leopard buildbot and PPC Leopard buildbots
are now green, but the PPC Tiger buildbot is still failing for all
branches
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
We do have
bytes.fromhex('deadbeef')
Sort of reminds me of Java's Integer.parseInt(), and not in a good way.
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Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote:
Hi,
But what I would like to know, is if is there any reason why XML-RPC can't
optionally work over TLS/SSL using Python's ssl module. I'll create a
ticket, and send a patch, but I was wondering if it was a reason why this
was not implemented.
I
My Intel Snow Leopard 2 build slave has gone into outer-space again.
When I look at it, I see buildslave taking up most of a CPU (80%), and
nothing much else going on. The twistd log says:
[... much omitted ...]
2011-04-04 08:35:47-0700 [-] sending app-level keepalive
2011-04-04 08:45:47-0700
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
On 07/04/2011 21:31, Bill Janssen wrote:
My Intel Snow Leopard 2 build slave has gone into outer-space again.
[snip...]
So it's been spinning its wheels for 3 days.
Sure looks like the connection attempt is failing, for some reason
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 08:31 pm, jans...@parc.com wrote:
My Intel Snow Leopard 2 build slave has gone into outer-space again.
When I look at it, I see buildslave taking up most of a CPU (80%), and
nothing much else going on. The twistd log says:
[... much omitted ...]
I'm trying to get a new buildbot in the swim of things, and it keeps
getting into this state where the buildslave process seems caught in an
endless loop. Perhaps someone here knows why?
It's a new Mac Mini running the latest Snow Leopard, with Python 2.6.1
(the /usr/bin/python) and buildslave
David Bolen db3l@gmail.com wrote:
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com writes:
I'm trying to get a new buildbot in the swim of things, and it keeps
getting into this state where the buildslave process seems caught in an
endless loop. Perhaps someone here knows why?
Do you have any
David Bolen db3l@gmail.com wrote:
There used to be a way to request a ping from the master side (I
think on the same page you could manually run a build from) that I
would used to force it to recognize a slave was really down, but after
the web interface got rearranged a while back, I
Giampaolo Rodolà g.rod...@gmail.com wrote:
Although I don't use it, it seems that Twisted managed to do this by
splitting the concepts of transport and protocol / application
and by using zope.interface.
You might want to look at the ILU core, too, just for ideas. Somewhat
to my surprise,
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
The Installer COM object is the platform standard
mechanism, and that's what msilib uses. I really see no need to move
away from that - it can create arbitrary MSI files.
I've used it to package UpLib for Windows -- see
Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
s...@pobox.com wrote:
I realize the world is passing me by and that I'm rapidly turning into a
dinosaur w.r.t. distributed version control, but as you write/update the
developer's guide remember that proficiency in Python does not necessarily
P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
Right. Also, it should be mentioned that none of this would be
necessary if we could've gotten a bytes of a known encoding type.
Indeed! Or even string using a known encoding...
If you look back to the last big Python-Dev discussion on
bytes/unicode
Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com wrote:
On 12/10/2010 12:06 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote:
This simplistic easy usage somewhat echo's Glenn's comment on this
thread
about logging seeming way to daunting as presented today. It needn't be.
Indeed, and the very first code sample in
Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
And yet, I have helped many people who were baffled by exactly what
Bill observed: logging.info() didn't do anything. Maybe the default
should be INFO?
Yeah, I was curious enough to read the code and find out why. But many
won't.
By the way, I tried
Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com wrote:
1) simple example for one file programs, include an example of
specifying output severity threshold. I'm with Antoine here on my
expectations.
Yes, once I put
logging.basicConfig(stream=sys.stdout, level=logging.DEBUG)
in my main(), I got
Isaac Morland ijmor...@uwaterloo.ca wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le mardi 23 novembre 2010 à 12:32 -0500, Isaac Morland a écrit :
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
We already have a bunch of bizarrely unrelated stuff in collections
(such as Callable), so
Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote:
On 17/11/10 17:23, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
There is no incoming connection; however, a bunch of outgoing
connections are made to various hosts by various tests, so it's better
if there's no overzealous firewall in-between.
For those of us who can't do that,
Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
In article 30929.1289879...@parc.com, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com
wrote:
Both the Tiger buildbots are suddenly failing 3.x on test_cmd_line.
Looking at the changes since the last success, I can't see anything
which would obviously affect that... Any
Both the Tiger buildbots are suddenly failing 3.x on test_cmd_line.
Looking at the changes since the last success, I can't see anything
which would obviously affect that... Any suspects?
Here's what's failing:
==
ERROR:
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:30:05 -0500
James Y Knight f...@fuhm.net wrote:
On Nov 13, 2010, at 7:08 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Funny, it shows that the NNTP SSL tests don't check the certificate,
then.
Unsurprising, given that you need 140 lines
Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com wrote:
Let's move the current 'trunk' into /branches/afterlife-27. Open it
for submissions from people such as myself that use 2.7 on a regular
basis and are willing to give it some extra love.
Though I'm not personally convinced it's a good idea,
There was a test added to the sqlite suite between 3.1 and the current
3.x trunk, TestInTransaction. It's failing pretty consistently on the
PPC Leopard buildbot (2.7 and 3.1 are testing OK).
Calling sqlite3.sqlite_version returns 3.4.0.
A couple of things come to mind:
* Does this require a
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:14:20 -0700, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
There was a test added to the sqlite suite between 3.1 and the current
3.x trunk, TestInTransaction. It's failing pretty consistently on the
PPC Leopard buildbot (2.7
I've moved the OS X buildbot parc-tiger-1 (PPC Tiger) to new hardware, a
MDD dual-G4 PowerMac with more memory. Should move considerably faster.
Enjoy!
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Sorry to drop out like that -- I've been having some email issues.
Stephen, great job; thanks for providing that Snow Leopard buildbot.
I think what we're missing now is an Intel Leopard buildbot. 35%
of Mac users are still running Leopard. I'm running it myself on
some machines, due to the
I've found a dual-processor G4 to run the PPC Tiger buildbot on (it's
currently an old e Mac), and I plan to take this buildbot down
tomorrow,
Wednesday, to upgrade.
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I've finished upgrading the PPC Leopard builder to a dual 2 GHz G5
machine. Tests should run a bit faster now that the eMac is out of the
loop :-). I'm looking for a faster machine for the PPC Tiger buildbot.
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Folks, I was looking at the buildbots again. Do you realize that we
have no OS X Snow Leopard buildbot? No Intel Leopard buildbot? Well
over half of Mac users are using Snow Leopard, and we're not testing on
that platform. In fact, the only Intel OS X machine we're testing on
is a Core Duo,
I'm replacing the PPC Leopard build slave with a dual 2GHz G5 machine...
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Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
no one seems to take the betas or alphas for serious test drives (to
be expected) with real code
I wonder if there's some way to improve that situation -- perhaps by
some engineering of the Python packaging, or some such?
Bill
Interesting. I personally use nis and poplib quite a bit, but I can see
how that would be very location-dependent.
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Tim, thanks for this write-up!
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Stephen Hansen apt.shan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote:
Stephen Hansen wrote:
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Guilherme Polo ggp...@gmail.com
mailto:ggp...@gmail.com wrote:
By never had a problem do you mean using
Tal Einat talei...@gmail.com wrote:
Although several people say that they think having IDLE in the stdlib
is important, the fact is that IDLE is considered quite unimportant by
most of the Python community. Having IDLE in the stdlib may be
convenient for a few people, but most never use it
Fred Drake fdr...@acm.org wrote:
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com wro=
te:
I see the reason. But I doubt if this is a reliable approach. =A0Also
when the scheme begins with file:// it should not be confused with
ftp, so I think, that portion of code in
Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 02:23:40PM +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Is this is valid ftp url?
# file://ftp.example.com/blah.txt (an ftp URL)
My answer is no. When we have the scheme specifically mentioned as
file:// it is no point in
Tim Lesher tles...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:41, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
So, FTP is *not* the default protocol. On the other hand, if host
actually begins with ftp., it's a pretty good guess that FTP will
work.
Actually, FTP *is* the default protocol
Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
My Leopard and Tiger PPC buildbots are momentarily green! But I'm
looking into why I'm skipping some tests. My buildbots are up-to-date
OS-wise and very vanilla, with the latest
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Seems to work fine. So this I don't understand. Any ideas, anyone?
Didn't we discuss this before?
Possibly, but I don't recall doing so.
The buildbot slave has no controlling
terminal anymore, hence it cannot open /dev/tty. If you are curious,
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
Could the test be rewritten (or supplemented) to use a pty? Most or
perhaps all of the same operations should be supported.
Buildbot seems to be explicitly not using a PTY. From the the top of
the test output:
make buildbottest
in dir
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
The whole unexpected skipping is somewhat of a mess. In an ideal
situation modules that are optionally built should be allowed to skip,
While this may be the wide-spread interpretation, it is definitely *not*
the original intention of the feature.
My Leopard and Tiger PPC buildbots are momentarily green! But I'm
looking into why I'm skipping some tests. My buildbots are up-to-date
OS-wise and very vanilla, with the latest applicable Xcode.
4 skips unexpected on darwin:
test_gdb test_ioctl test_readline test_ttk_guionly
Three of
Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz
gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Regarding the proposal of a String ABC, I hope this isn't going to
become a backdoor to reintroduce the Python
Here are a couple of ideas I'm taking away from the bytes/string
discussion.
First, it would probably be a good idea to have a String ABC.
Secondly, maybe the string situation in 2.x wasn't as broken as we
thought it was. In particular, those who deal with lots of encoded
strings seemed to find
Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
We do need str-based implementations of modules like urllib.
Why would that be? URLs aren't text, and never will be. The fact that
to the eye they may seem to be text-ish doesn't make them text. This
URLs are exactly
Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
So I propose that we drop the discussion are URLs text or bytes and
try to find something more pragmatic to discuss.
For example: how we can make the suite of functions used for URL
processing more polymorphic, so that each developer can choose for
See also http://gimper.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=3185.
Bill
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Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
..
Though, isn't that behavior of urllib.proxy_bypass another bug?
I don't know. Ask Ronald.
Hmmm. I brought up the System Preferences panel on my Mac
Craig Younkins cyounk...@gmail.com wrote:
cgi.escape never escapes single quote characters, which can easily lead to a
Cross-Site Scripting (XSS) vulnerability. This seems to be known by many,
but a quick search reveals many are using cgi.escape for HTML attribute
escaping.
Did you file a
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
Considering that we've just released 2.7rc2, there are an awful lot of
red buildbots for 2.7. In fact, I don't remember having seen a green
buildbot for OS X and 2.7. Shouldn't these be fixed?
Thanks to some action by Ronald, my two PPC OS X buildbots
Considering that we've just released 2.7rc2, there are an awful lot of
red buildbots for 2.7. In fact, I don't remember having seen a green
buildbot for OS X and 2.7. Shouldn't these be fixed?
On OS X Leopard, I'm seeing failures in test_py3kwarn,
test_urllib2_localnet, test_uuid.
On OS X
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2010/6/21 Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com:
Considering that we've just released 2.7rc2, there are an awful lot of
red buildbots for 2.7. In fact, I don't remember having seen a green
buildbot for OS X and 2.7. Shouldn't these be fixed
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Benjamin is not qualified to fix OS X bugs AFAIK (if you are, Benjamin,
then sorry for misrepresenting you :-)). Actually, neither are most of
us.
Right. I was thinking that the release manager should however be
responsible for not releasing while
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2010/6/21 Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com:
They are at the end of the buildbot list, so off-screen if you are using
a normal browser. You have to scroll to see them.
But not on the stable view and that's the only one I look at.
Right
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le lundi 21 juin 2010 à 12:57 -0700, Bill Janssen a écrit :
Apparently some of these buildbots belong to you. Why don't you step
up and investigate?
The fact that I'm running some buildbots doesn't mean I have to fix the
problems
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
OS X is only a supported and important platform if we have dedicated
core developers diagnosing or even fixing issues for it (like we
obviously have for Windows and Linux). Otherwise, I don't think we have
any moral obligation to support it.
Fair
Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, I thought that was about http://bugs.python.org/issue8455 .
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
..
Giampaolo Rodolà g.rod...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/6/17 Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com:
There's a related meta-issue having to do with antique protocols.
Can I know what meta-issue are you talking about exactly?
Giampaolo, I believe that you and I have already discussed this on one
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
My personal perspective is that a lot of that code was likely already
broken in hard to detect ways when dealing with mixed encodings -
releasing 3.x just made the associated errors significantly easier to
detect.
I have to agree with this, and not just
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le mercredi 09 juin 2010 à 12:38 +0100, Michael Foord a écrit :
On 09/06/2010 12:35, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:41:29 +0200
M.-A. Lemburgm...@egenix.com wrote:
The above example will read:
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Jun 09, 2010, at 04:42 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Many of them are not keen on having to maintain Python2 for much
longer, but some of them may have assets codified in Python2
or interests based Python2 that they'll want to keep for
more than just
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
B. some more thought should be given to incorporating the new GIL into
2.7. However, this requires two things:
- an update to the patch in 7753 to either retain the old GIL for
platforms not supported by the new GIL or else to make the new GIL a
The PPC buildbots are running pretty well, now that I've opened a few
more ports, but I'd like to find this script pybuildbot.identify that
they keep complaining about, and install it. I've poked around the
Python sources, but haven't found it.
Anyone know where to get it from?
Thanks.
Bill
Matthias Klose d...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 19.05.2010 18:09, Bill Janssen wrote:
The PPC buildbots are running pretty well, now that I've opened a few
more ports, but I'd like to find this script pybuildbot.identify that
they keep complaining about, and install it. I've poked around
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Bill Janssen wrote:
Matthias Klose d...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 19.05.2010 18:09, Bill Janssen wrote:
The PPC buildbots are running pretty well, now that I've opened a few
more ports, but I'd like to find this script pybuildbot.identify
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Peter Portante wrote:
Does anybody think that by having problems with the new GIL that it might
further weaken the adoption rate for 3k? -peter
No, to the contrary. By having the new GIL being superior to the old
implementation, the adoption rate
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2010 15:13:44 PDT
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
So the patch to the threading code would presumably, for those OSs where
the capability exists, try to put all created threads in the same
affinity set.
This is not really
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Well, 2.7rc1 is scheduled in less than three weeks now. IMO any patch
changing fundamental threading properties is a no-no (even the processor
affinity proposal).
Unfortunately, our fundamental threading properties are broken for
multicore machines.
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
use it. Whether or not use explicitly know you are using threads
(because some other package may be using them under the covers).
Of course, I meant to say, Whether or not *youse* explicitly know you
are using threads (because some other package may
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Well, if instead of gnashing your teeth, you had contributed to the
issue, perhaps a patch would have been committed by now (or perhaps
not, but who knows?). If you stay silent, you cannot assume that
someone else will stand up for *your* opinion (and
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2010 11:15:49 PDT
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
What I did know was that
some of our big complicated Python multi-threaded daemons had shown
puzzling resource hogging when moved from small Macs to large 8-core
machines
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I'd hate to let a fundamental flaw like this go through simply because
someone somewhere somewhen set a completely synthetic deadline.
No, it's not like that. We set the deadline so that we are able to
cancel discussions like this one. It would be
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 5/17/2010 2:59 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
Yes, it would. As soon as I have working 3.x versions of BeautifulSoup,
PIL, ReportLab, JCC, pylucene, pyglet, nltk, email, epydoc, feedparser,
dictclient, docutils, hachoir, mutagen, medusa, python-dateutil
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2010 15:13:44 PDT
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
So the patch to the threading code would presumably, for those OSs where
the capability exists, try to put all created threads in the same
affinity set.
This is not really
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Bill Janssen wrote:
parc-leopard-1 (and most of the other builders) are failing the svn
checkout with the following error:
svn: PROPFIND of '/projects/python/trunk': Could not resolve hostname
`svn.python.org': Temporary failure in name
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
That's a common OSX problem/bug. Processes occasionally lose the ability
to resolve host names. Various theories float around what's causing this
(most commonly, people expect that a controlling terminal must be
present); my theory is this:
There
I can find no evidence that the buildbot installation process given on
the wiki will cause the buildbot slave to be restarted after a reboot of
the machine. To accomplish this, you should also undertake the work
described in
http://buildbot.net/trac/wiki/UsingLaunchd
On my Leopard slave, I
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