[Python-Dev] Re: About PEPs being discussed on Discourse

2022-04-08 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On Apr 8, 2022, 6:49 AM -0500, Greg Ewing , wrote: > On 8/04/22 12:13 pm, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > > And > > for lurkers and subscribers here to enable email notifications for > > categories of interest over there. > > Is it possible to participate in a Discourse discussion entirely > by email,

[Python-Dev] Re: Keeping Python a Duck Typed Language.

2021-04-22 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On Apr 21, 2021, 5:29 PM -0500, Paul Bryan , wrote: > As demonstrated, protocols don't get us there because duck typing isn't a > matter of having an object exhibit all of the attributes of a duck, but > rather some subset of attributes to be used by the consumer. I want this duck > to quack;

Re: [Python-Dev] Feature request: Change a Dependency Package Version During Package Initiation

2019-05-18 Thread Dan Ryan
may be misunderstanding, but that's why a formal approach for something like this might make some sense Dan Ryan gh: @techalchemy // e: d...@danryan.co From: Q [mailto:qiang.f...@zoho.com.cn] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:32 PM To: Daniel Holth Cc: Brett Cannon; Python-Dev Subject: Re: [Python

Re: [Python-Dev] [help] where to learn how to upgrade from 2.7 to 3

2018-09-17 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] We cannot fix all issues: let's close XML security issues (not fix them)

2018-09-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ng list >> Python-Dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >> > Unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/guido%40python.org > > >> > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~g

Re: [Python-Dev] unsolicited removal request

2018-08-20 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] A "day of silence" on PEP 572?

2018-07-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On July 6, 2018 5:04:05 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote: (or contact the PEP's authors privately). Hoenstly, this feels like a recipe for a disaster... As for the other kinds of threads, as much as I dislike PEP 572, they are useless now. Regards Antoine. On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 23:50:46 +0200

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 484

2018-07-04 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Type hints like in PEP 484 work on all Python 3 versions, and something similar to your proposal is already supported on Python 2 [1]. [1]: https://mypy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/python2.html On July 4, 2018 11:08:27 PM Shawn Chen wrote: Hello, Here, I am proposing a change on python type

Re: [Python-Dev] Troubles to merge changes in the 2.7 branch: PR "out-of-date" branch

2018-05-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
AFAIK there's no setting like this available, and I've done this many times on other repos with no trouble. Maybe it could be a GitHub bug? On May 28, 2018 4:59:03 AM Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, Since one or two weeks, I noticed that it's difficult to merge pull requests

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2018-05-11 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
https://refi64.com/uprocd/ On May 11, 2018 9:39:28 AM Chris Barker - NOAA Federal via Python-Dev wrote: Inspired by chg: Could one make a little startup utility that, when invoked the first time, starts up a raw python interpreter, keeps it running somewhere, and

Re: [Python-Dev] A fast startup patch (was: Python startup time)

2018-05-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ffecting existing code or workflows.  -- ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com -- Ryan (ライア

Re: [Python-Dev] Slow down...

2018-05-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] Drop/deprecate Tkinter?

2018-05-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
re this, or else it's undefined altogether. [snip] ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2018-05-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
I'm hardly an expert, but AFAIK CPython's start-up issues are more due to a mix of architectural issues and the fact that it's hard to optimize imports while maintaining backwards compatibility with Python's dynamism. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano

Re: [Python-Dev] Is PEP 572 really the most effective way to solve the problems it's targeting?

2018-04-27 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
behind the rest. Personally I thought of Swift (Ryan mentioned), Kotlin, Rust, and perhaps Go, though Go wasn't focused on breaking new ground outside of ease of concurrency. I don't know R or Felix at all, but sound interesting. Nim is another I'm vaguely aware of. They surely have given some thought to

Re: [Python-Dev] Is PEP 572 really the most effective way to solve the problems it's targeting?

2018-04-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On April 25, 2018 11:05:04 PM Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 09:36:31PM -0500, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: I have to say I'm not overly thrilled with PEP 572...it's almost odd, because if you asked me back when I first joined this list when I was 13, I wo

[Python-Dev] Is PEP 572 really the most effective way to solve the problems it's targeting?

2018-04-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Trying to build from source, test-poplib fails

2018-04-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] Mostly Official Python Development Container Image

2017-12-10 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ally to quay.io, so you can pull >the image in a .gitlab-ci.yml file to run tests against all these >versions of Python. Here’s an example from the importlib_resources >project: > >https://gitlab.com/python-devs/importlib_resources/blob/master/.gitlab-ci.yml > >We welcome cont

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing files from the repository

2017-11-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
that similar file existed. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsub

Re: [Python-Dev] Interesting what version of python should I start with

2017-11-02 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com --

Re: [Python-Dev] socketserver ForkingMixin waiting for child processes

2017-08-11 Thread Ryan Smith-Roberts
I agree that blocking shutdown by default isn't a good idea. A child will eventually get indefinitely stuck on a nonresponsive connection and hang the whole server. This behavior change is surprising and should be reverted in master, and definitely not backported. As for block-timeout or

Re: [Python-Dev] "make touch" replaced with "make regen-all"

2017-05-04 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
gt; Ok, now the question is: are you ok to backport this change to Python > 2.7, 3.5 and 3.6? > > I started with a backport to 3.6: > > https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/1461 > > > See also "Test somehow that generated files are up to date: run make > regen-all&quo

Re: [Python-Dev] Questions on the CPython Git master branch: how to exclude commits of 3.x branches?

2017-03-31 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ype name. | | | | Simplified testing for null characters in __name__ setter. | | | | --- Victor ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ rymg19%40gmail.com -- Ry

[Python-Dev] Distutils frozen?

2017-03-27 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ze modules *using* distutils, which is hardly helpful. FWIW, no one on the PR seemed to mention that, either. If distutils is indeed frozen, shouldn't it be documented somewhere in the devguide? -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura > ryo (supercell/EGOIST) > Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone

Re: [Python-Dev] Set program name through exec -a or environment variable

2017-03-18 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
exec -a would seem to end up setting argv[0] on the CPython interpreter itself, which I don't think is the desired effect... -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura > ryo (supercell/EGOIST) > Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else http://refi64.com On Mar 18, 2017 10:11 AM, "Freddy Rietd

[Python-Dev] Application support

2017-03-12 Thread Ryan James Kenneth Murray
for help in making sure that everything is satisfactory. As you can see I am concerned about entering anymore data Sincerely yours Ryan Murray ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

[Python-Dev] The "humor" section of the website is a bit outdated...

2017-01-04 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ne: https://wiki.python.org/PythonHumor Being that the primary purpose is for proposing additions to the humor list, I don't think archive.org would be of much help for this one. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura > ryo (supercell/EGOIST) > Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else http:

[Python-Dev] typing.py doesn't export Pattern and Match; is that intentional

2016-10-18 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
E.g.: import typing print(typing.Pattern, typing.Match) # Works. from typing import * print(Pattern, Match) # NameError: name 'Pattern' is not defined A quick look shows that typing.py doesn't have Pattern and Match in __all__. Was this intentional, or just an oversight? -- Ryan [ERROR

Re: [Python-Dev] Python ROCKS! Thanks guys! [anecdote]

2016-10-12 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
; Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ > rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 526 (variable annotations) accepted provisionally

2016-09-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
:D -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On Sep 7, 2016 1:20 PM, "Guido van Rossum" <gu...@python.org> wrote: > I'm accepting PEP 526 provisionally. > > I am personall

Re: [Python-Dev] (some) C99 added to PEP 7

2016-09-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Wonder if it's ever segfaulted... ...hey, I just figured out why we got Python 3! ;) -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On Sep 7, 2016 2:02 PM, "Antoine Pitrou" <solip...@pitr

Re: [Python-Dev] Requesting on python directories

2016-09-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ > rymg19%

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

2016-09-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Maybe the PEP should just say it's for "annotating variables", and it would mention "primarily for the purpose of types"? -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On Sep 5, 2016 10:

Re: [Python-Dev] Please reject or postpone PEP 526

2016-09-02 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
d return types, and declaring custom types to be generic. > PEP 484 does include a description of type comments, but they are always annotations on assignment statements and were primarily intended for use in stub files. > > > > Please don't turn Python into some sort of inferior Java. I think we're fine; there a

Re: [Python-Dev] Smoothing the transition from Python 2 to 3

2016-06-08 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ot;unpythonic" or similar? > Regards, > > Neil > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: https://mail.pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] New hash algorithms: SHA3, SHAKE, BLAKE2, truncated SHA512

2016-05-27 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
path implies) just test data. A whopping >1k LOC of really long hashes. > Victor > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: [Python-Dev] runtime dlls on Windows

2016-05-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Wouldn't downloading the Microsoft C++ Runtime 2015 also work? Many recent computers already have it pre-installed. -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On May 25, 2016 2:31 PM, "Chris B

Re: [Python-Dev] Need help in OCR implementation with Python3.5.1 or pyCharm Community edition

2016-05-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Well, the stack trace was pointing to the line that called Tesseract, so I figured that was the problem. -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On May 5, 2016 11:24 AM, "MRAB&

Re: [Python-Dev] Need help in OCR implementation with Python3.5.1 or pyCharm Community edition

2016-05-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
; > > *Process finished with exit code 1* > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Deepak Srivastava > > > > Questions like this are better suited for python-list. Regardless, you need to install Tesseract first: https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract/wiki That s

Re: [Python-Dev] Memory

2016-05-01 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Well, I put this in Google Translate...and got this: The disk clatters the Spontie giggles ~ hopefully alliance insures ... Not sure if this a useless post or Translate just being weird. Leaning towards the latter... -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your

Re: [Python-Dev] support of the android platform

2016-04-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Oh wow, has a year passed already? I don't have access to an Android device suitable for development, and Cyd seems to have disappeared, which is why the issue ended up abandoned. I'd be happy to try to help with the new effort if possible! -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200

Re: [Python-Dev] Wordcode: new regular bytecode using 16-bit units

2016-04-13 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
So code that depends on iterating through bytecode via HAS_ARG is going to break... Darn it. :/ -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On Apr 13, 2016 4:44 PM, "Victor Stinner" &l

Re: [Python-Dev] Wordcode: new regular bytecode using 16-bit units

2016-04-13 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
What is the value of HAS_ARG going to be now? -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On Apr 13, 2016 11:26 AM, "Victor Stinner" <victor.stin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Defining a path protocol (was: When should pathlib stop being provisional?)

2016-04-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On Apr 6, 2016 12:28 PM, "Brett Cannon" <br...@python.org> wrote: > > WIth Ethan volunteering to do the work to help make a path protocol a th

Re: [Python-Dev] Which version is better? Phyton 27 or Phyton 35?

2016-04-01 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Well, based on recent feedback, you should wait for Phyton 80, which will also make your bean plants start growing hair. (Side note: This is seriously weird. :O ) -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io

[Python-Dev] The future of Python: fixing broken error handling in Python 8

2016-04-01 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ll realize that this new idea is a drastic improvement over current technologies and therefore support it, because we can Make Python Great Again™. -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64

Re: [Python-Dev] Fun with ancient unsupported platforms

2016-01-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
win16 doesn't seem to have important stuff: https://github.com/python/cpython/search?utf8=✓="win16; On January 28, 2016 8:57:20 AM CST, Larry Hastings wrote: > > >Check out and cd into Python trunk. > >% grep -Ri win16 * | wc > 10 66 625 > >% grep -Ri nextstep

Re: [Python-Dev] FAT Python (lack of) performance

2016-01-26 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On January 25, 2016 9:59:36 PM CST, Chris Angelico wrote: >On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:32 PM, INADA Naoki >wrote: >> >> I know. >> But people compares language speed by simple microbench like >fibbonacci. >> They doesn't use listcomp or libraries to

Re: [Python-Dev] FAT Python (lack of) performance

2016-01-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On January 25, 2016 9:32:07 PM CST, INADA Naoki wrote: >On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Andrew Barnert >wrote: > >> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:21, INADA Naoki >wrote: >> > >> > I'm very interested in it. >> > >> > Ruby 2.2 and

Re: [Python-Dev] GitHub migration planning has started

2016-01-10 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Is it possible to contribute to this, even if you're not part of the core dev team? On January 10, 2016 11:43:48 AM CST, Brett Cannon wrote: >For those of you who have not heard, I made the decision a little over >a >week ago to move Python's development from our home-grown

Re: [Python-Dev] New poll about a macro for safe reference replacing

2015-12-16 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On December 16, 2015 8:12:47 AM CST, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: >I'm bringing this up again, since the results of the previous poll did >not give an unambiguous result. Related links: [1], [2], [3], [4]. > >Let me remind you that we are talking about adding the following

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Reference has no mention of list comÃprehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On December 3, 2015 10:09:56 AM CST, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On December 3, 2015 8:26:23 AM CST, Laura Creighton <l...@openend.se> >wrote: >>In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:37:17 +, Paul Moore writes: >>>On 3 December 2015 at

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Reference has no mention of list comÃprehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On December 3, 2015 8:26:23 AM CST, Laura Creighton wrote: >In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:37:17 +, Paul Moore writes: >>On 3 December 2015 at 12:51, Laura Creighton wrote: >>> Intentional or Oversight? >> >>Hard to find :-) >>

Re: [Python-Dev] "python.exe is not a valid Win32 app"

2015-12-01 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Did you get the x86-64 version or x86? If you had gotten the former, it would lead to that error. On December 1, 2015 8:30:25 AM CST, Alexei Belenki via Python-Dev wrote: >Installed python 3.5 (from https://www.python.org/downloads/) on >Windows XPsp3/32 >On starting

Re: [Python-Dev] Reading Python source file

2015-11-18 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Well, not quite the same thing, but https://github.com/kirbyfan64/pfbuild/blob/master/pfbuild embeds the compressed version of 16k LOC. Would it be affected negatively in any way be this? Since all the data is on one line, I'd think the old (current) parser would end up reading in the whole

Re: [Python-Dev] modernizing IDLE

2015-11-10 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7.11 plans

2015-11-01 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org htt

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Why not just check the path of the imported modules and compare it with the Python library directory? On October 29, 2015 3:26:08 PM CDT, Mark Roseman wrote: >Laura, I think what you want should actually be more-or-less doable in >IDLE. > >The main routine that starts IDLE

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Well, tell your friend that that means middle and high schoolers must think alike! :D On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Laura Creighton <l...@openend.se> wrote: > In a message of Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:50:30 -0500, Ryan Gonzalez writes: > >Why not just check the path of the i

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
t; On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> >wrote: >> > Why not just check the path of the imported modules and compare it >with the >> > Python library directory? >> >> It works, but it requires that everyone who could run int

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-22 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Ah, I missed that part. Sorry! :/ On October 22, 2015 7:27:41 AM CDT, "Eric V. Smith" <e...@trueblade.com> wrote: >On 10/22/2015 7:32 AM, Eric V. Smith wrote: >> On 10/21/2015 10:57 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: >>> It mentions fr'...' as a formatted raw string but

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-22 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On October 22, 2015 11:10:48 AM CDT, "Sven R. Kunze" wrote: >On 22.10.2015 13:32, Eric V. Smith wrote: >> ['B', 'BF', 'BFR', 'BFr', 'BR', 'BRF', 'BRf', 'Bf', 'BfR', 'Bfr', >'Br', >> 'BrF', 'Brf', 'F', 'FB', 'FBR', 'FBr', 'FR', 'FRB', 'FRb', 'Fb', >'FbR', >> 'Fbr', 'Fr', 'FrB',

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-22 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
But it'd be weird now if fR worked but fbR didn't. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Sven R. Kunze <srku...@mail.de> wrote: > On 22.10.2015 18:17, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > >> >>> anything about it. 'FbR', really? >>>> >>> Why not disallowing them?

[Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-21 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
It mentions fr'...' as a formatted raw string but doesn't say anything about rf'...'. Right now, in implementing PEP 498 support in Howl (https://github.com/howl-editor/howl/pull/118 and

Re: [Python-Dev] Not Deprecating Arbitrary Function Annotations

2015-10-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
PSF. Nothing personal, of course... On October 5, 2015 3:01:11 PM CDT, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: >"They"? > >On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> There is one reason I would be really fr

Re: [Python-Dev] Not Deprecating Arbitrary Function Annotations

2015-10-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
There is one reason I would be really freaking mad if they deprecated other uses of annotations: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/plac On October 5, 2015 1:55:37 PM CDT, Steve Wedig wrote: >Congratulations on the release of 3.5 and Pep 484. I've used Python >professionally

Re: [Python-Dev] Not Deprecating Arbitrary Function Annotations

2015-10-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
t in python-ideas of course). > >I'm sorry you don't feel more included, but I really don't like the >idea of >"us vs. them" in this list. We're all working together to make Python >the >best language it can be. > >--Guido > >On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM, R

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-17 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
creenshot at top) > > -- > Terry Jan Reedy > > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Rya

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-12 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On September 12, 2015 6:14:58 PM CDT, Tim Delaney wrote: >On 13 September 2015 at 04:42, Oleg Broytman wrote: > >>There are too many things that I personally can do with git but >can't >> do with hg. Because of that I switched all my

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New editing

2015-09-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On September 5, 2015 12:27:26 PM CDT, David Mertz wrote: >I have to apologize profusely here. Just after I offered to do this >(and >work even said it was OK in principle to do it on work time), my work >load >went through the roof. And now it's really already later than most

[Python-Dev] python programmer

2015-09-02 Thread Linda Ryan
Dear Admin, I am an IT/Project Management recruiter looking to increase the available pool of talent for available job placements. Currently I have an opening for a python programmer/developer. Could I post opportunities to your member list? Thank you, Linda Ryan Business Development Manager

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Issue-subprocess problem

2015-08-27 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-27 Thread Ryan Hiebert
On Jul 27, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand, these rare events are not that different from more or less regular DST transitions. You still have either a non-existent or ambiguous local times interval and you can resolve

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-27 Thread Ryan Hiebert
On Jul 27, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:54:02AM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused by your position. If it's 7am on the clock behind me, right now,

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-25 Thread Ryan Hiebert
On Jul 25, 2015, at 09:15, Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: There really is a reason every other date time implementation I know of uses UTC internally, and there really is a reason why

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-17 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
I am tempted to reply with a slightly sarcastic message involving a cookie... On July 17, 2015 6:40:21 PM CDT, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Frankly, this kind of inept discussion, where a bunch of folks get hung up about an extremely minor design decision (who cares whether assret

[Python-Dev] Where are bugs with the web site reported?

2015-07-16 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
I have encountered this weird issue on Chrome for Android where scrolling up just a little causes the page to dart to the top. I was going to report it in the bug tracker, but I didn't see a label for the web site itself. Worst part is, this is stopping me from reading the humor page! -- Sent

Re: [Python-Dev] Where are bugs with the web site reported?

2015-07-16 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
like an interesting case to keep in mind while evolving viewport resize behaviors. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com wrote: On 7/16/2015 12:11 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: I have encountered this weird issue on Chrome for Android where scrolling up just

Re: [Python-Dev] Single-file Python executables (was: Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2)

2015-05-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Single-file Python executables (was: Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2)

2015-05-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
py2exe tends to invoke DLL hell if you have various versions of VS or Office or both installed. Because Windows. On May 28, 2015 11:23:57 AM CDT, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: I'm confused: Doesn't py2exe (optionally) create a single file executable? And py2app on the Mac creates

Re: [Python-Dev] Single-file Python executables (was: Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2)

2015-05-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
I agree that size is an issue, but is it really that bad? Just compare it to the recent web surge where everyone is writing desktop apps in HTML5+CSS+JS and bundling a huge WebKit engine in their apps binary. Python on Windows is seriously in a bad state. IMO, what needs to be prioritized is

Re: [Python-Dev] Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2

2015-05-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] Unable to build regex module against Python 3.5 32-bit

2015-05-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Try building the module with -m32. The error message basically means: ../libpython35.a is 32-bit, but what you're building is 64-bit. Gotta love ld! On May 25, 2015 3:06:01 PM CDT, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: As the subject says, I've been unable to build the regex module against

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 492: async/await in Python; version 5

2015-05-07 Thread Ryan Hiebert
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Re: [Python-Dev] Sub-claasing pathlib.Path seems impossible

2015-05-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3152 and yield from Future()

2015-04-23 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Then blow it up like Duck Dynasty does. On April 23, 2015 12:07:46 PM CDT, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:58:33 -0700 Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: I think this is the nail in PEP 3152's coffin. If you only put one nail, it might manage to get out.

Re: [Python-Dev] async/await PEP

2015-04-21 Thread Ryan Hiebert
On Apr 21, 2015, at 3:23 AM, Martin Teichmann lkb.teichm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yury, Hi List, I do certainly like the idea of PEP 492, just some small comments: why do we need two keywords? To me it is not necessarily intuitive when to use async and when to use await (why is it async

Re: [Python-Dev] Type hints -- a mediocre programmer's reaction

2015-04-20 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] Type hints -- a mediocre programmer's reaction

2015-04-20 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-04-08 Thread Ryan Hiebert
On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:37, Carl Meyer c...@oddbird.net wrote: Anyone interested in a session on this, mail me and we'll set up a time and place! I'm interested in the topic, and would probably attend a BoF at PyCon. I'm of a similar mind. ___

Re: [Python-Dev] importante!!

2015-03-31 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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Re: [Python-Dev] Tunning binary insertion sort algorithm in Timsort.

2015-03-09 Thread Ryan Smith-Roberts
I suspect that you will find the Python community extremely conservative about any changes to its sorting algorithm, given that it took thirteen years and some really impressive automated verification software to find this bug:

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 471 Final: os.scandir() merged into Python 3.5

2015-03-09 Thread Ryan Stuart
Hi Ben, On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 at 21:58 Ben Hoyt benh...@gmail.com wrote: Note that this benchmark is invalid for a couple of reasons. (...) Thanks a lot for the guidance Ben, greatly appreciated. Just starting to take an interest in the development of CPython and so something like running a

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 471 Final: os.scandir() merged into Python 3.5

2015-03-07 Thread Ryan Stuart
Hi, On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 at 12:33 Ben Hoyt benh...@gmail.com wrote: Others: if you want to benchmark this, the simplest way is to use my os.walk() benchmark.py test program here: https://github.com/benhoyt/scandir -- it compares the built-in os.walk() implemented with os.listdir() with a

Re: [Python-Dev] Working on issue 23496: should I use a macro test or an edit to configure.ac?

2015-02-26 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
DOES NOBODY HAVE AN ANSWER TO THIS??? I'm REALLY relying on someone who works on Python to answer this. PLEASE?? On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ryan Gonzalez rym...@gmail.com wrote: So... There was a recent discussion here on porting Python to Android. Well, for those of you who saw too

Re: [Python-Dev] Working on issue 23496: should I use a macro test or an edit to configure.ac?

2015-02-26 Thread Ryan Smith-Roberts
I'm not an official cpython developer but ifdef __ANDROID__ is quite in line with other per-platform support (__FreeBSD__, __linux__, etc), as well as already being in use in Modules/_posixsubprocess.c. Is __ANDROID__ not being defined when it should be? On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Ryan

Re: [Python-Dev] Working on issue 23496: should I use a macro test or an edit to configure.ac?

2015-02-26 Thread Ryan Smith-Roberts
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Ryan Smith-Roberts r...@lab.net wrote: I'm not an official cpython developer but ifdef __ANDROID__ is quite in line with other per-platform support (__FreeBSD__, __linux__, etc), as well as already being in use in Modules/_posixsubprocess.c. Is __ANDROID__

Re: [Python-Dev] Working on issue 23496: should I use a macro test or an edit to configure.ac?

2015-02-26 Thread Ryan
Thank you so much! Ryan Smith-Roberts r...@lab.net wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Ryan Smith-Roberts r...@lab.net wrote: I'm not an official cpython developer but ifdef __ANDROID__ is quite in line with other per-platform support (__FreeBSD__, __linux__, etc), as well as already being

[Python-Dev] Working on issue 23496: should I use a macro test or an edit to configure.ac?

2015-02-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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