Thanks, Carol (and Olga)! This sounds great!
I’m sure you can all google :), but here’s the link:
https://github.com/python/python-docs-theme
I wasn’t able to find examples - is this what is up and running on
docs.python.org, or is that a future plan?
thanks much,
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p.s. Not sure what
> On Mar 9, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> On 3/9/2021 3:27 PM, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote:
>
>> The Steering Council just published the community update for February:
>
> Thank you for posting this.
>
>>The Steering Council discussed renaming the master branch to main
>>
Hi all,
as a moderator of python-ideas, I’ve asked postmaster to place python-ideas
into emergency moderation. (I do not have the tools to do so myself.) I’m
willing to review messages individually as needed.
best,
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> On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:24 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
> wrote:
>
>
stamps) to
> something that can be done on a coffee break.
I already help moderate python-ideas and would be happy to help moderate
announce.
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> On 02Jul2019 0840, Mariatta wrote:
>> I've used the "Report abuse" feature on GitHub for such situations. Most of
>> the time I see the user suspended, and the associated comments deleted.
>> Our GitHub admins can delete comments too.
>> On
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:09:14AM +0200, Giampaolo Rodol? wrote:
For committers on other Python projects like Buildbot, Django and
Twisted that may be reading this -- yes, the plan is to give you
guys Snakebite access/slaves down the track too. I'll start looking
into
or the bugs.python.org process is
considered critical for potentially minor doc changes and additions.)
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regularly discover nifty new modules
that replace stdlib modules. It'd be nice to have pointers in the
docs, although that runs the risk of having the pointers grow stale,
too.
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:42:55AM +0200, Eli Bendersky wrote:
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I see the point, but as a reasonably knowledgeable Python programmer
(intelligent? who knows...) I regularly discover nifty new modules
that replace stdlib
with this discussion is python-ideas. Could you repost over there?
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p.s. Seriously? I can accept that there's a rational minimalist argument
for this feature,
It is a feature, even if you aren't gonna need it. I want it.wink
Many programmers do know
. I guess I don't live up to your standards.
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for this feature, but arguing that it's somehow the responsibility of
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*strictly* necessary but should probably be obtained, too.
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for sphinx-specific markup constructs.
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On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:36:10PM +0530, Shashwat Anand wrote:
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:24 PM, C. Titus Brown c...@msu.edu wrote:
Hi all,
over on the fellowship o' the packaging mailing list, one of our GSoC
students
(merwok) asked about how much formatting info should go into Python
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 05:09:40PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
On 07/07/2010 17:06, Shashwat Anand wrote:
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mailto:c...@msu.edu wrote:
Hi all,
over on the fellowship o' the packaging mailing list, one of our
GSoC
much easier to change
the official repo, but it still incurs costs in terms of documentation,
workflow changes, etc.
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http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
A quick scan suggests /usr/lib is the right place to look:
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLIBLIBRARIESFORPROGRAMMINGANDPA
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with patches that are
branches on someone's bitbucket or github repo; much better than uploading and
downloading patch files while in the middle of a discussion.
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can do, IMO, and hardware is just not that
expensive compared to the dedication of the volunteers. If Georg, Benjamin,
Martin, or Ronald are interested, please just tell me (or Steve, or the PSF
board, or ...) what you want and I'll work on getting it funded.
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, or rely on extrinsic
motivations (money, reputation).
I don't know what to do about motivation but if there are barriers that
we can lower, please let me know.
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from those easily enough:
http://lyorn.idyll.org/ctb/pb-dev/p/python/
Just need to figure out the magic doohickey commands... will add to list.
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, but just at the command line.
see:
http://lyorn.idyll.org/ctb/pb-dev/p/python/
http://lyorn.idyll.org/ctb/pb-dev/p/python/show_all
(the Windows build is flaky for me, so the 'show_all' shows mostly
Windows builds).
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working, which would be quite valuable; it's easy to
get it working once, but to keep it working is a maintenance task that
involves regular effort, again, in my experience.
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:40:06AM +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote:
I would vote for allowing student work on community infrastructure
tasks. Tracker, Wiki, Web site management tools are all outdated and
everybody who cares agrees that they've seen a better tools.
As long as it's programming,
and bob's your uncle.
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Hi all,
once again, the PSF has been accepted as a mentoring foundation for the
Google
Summer of Code! ??This year, we're going to emphasize python 3 porting, so
please think
that there
aren't any Mac OS X buildbots. I would be happy to give one or two
people remote access to my Mac OS X 10.5 iMac if someone wanted to
set up a buildbot and/or debug this issue further.
Tarek, I can give you access immediately through your lyorn account, too.
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' somewhere in the string.
Those tests are also broken but in different areas from mine. Again,
if people would like shell access, just ask.
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 06:43:50PM +, Mark Dickinson wrote:
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 07:28:50PM +0100, Martin v. L?wis wrote:
That's not true, see
http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/builders/x86 osx.5 trunk
Ahh
was the official reference, and I try to stick to that.
OK, I see. Thanks! So if I can bring the scripts into concordance with
that it might be valuable?
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' misspelled as 'buold' ;)
I'd love to get this build process working completely automatically and
100% correctly, too.
Hat tip to Trent Nelson, who helped me figure out where the scripts are
and what other things I needed...
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Index: Tools/msi/msi.py
the PSF should be paying for this kind of thing at all).
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 05:41:39PM +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 ?? 09:31 -0700, C. Titus Brown a ??crit :
[ ... ]
I'm happy to provide VMs or shell access for Windows (XP, Vista, 7); Linux
ia64; Linux x86; and Mac OS X. Others have made similar offers
is going to be
way, way better than anything anyone else could possibly do -- that's
flamebait and not very friendly, in the end. Let's just say that I'm wasting
my own time on it to scratch my own itch and leave it at that!
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:49:51PM +, Paul Moore wrote:
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:21:06PM +, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Hello,
Sorry for the little redundancy, I would like to underline Jean-Paul's
suggestion here:
Le Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14
to fund such a task is perhaps best discussed on the
PSF members list.
Sure.
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Once I fix the data model, code collaboration will be much more feasible,
too.
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Right.
Is that a pronouncement?
:)
GvR, the self-limiting BDFL.
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anyone tried
compiling either trunk or py3k on Win 7? Would this be useful?
My recently acquired* MSDN account has led me to getting XP up and
running in a VM, and I would be happy to try other Windows OSes of
interest.
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and A/C to a wide variety of architectures is more complicated than it
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would want -- fire
and forget.
Is there a good python-dev archive search mechanism (other than to
google python-dev term ;) out there? Wouldn't that help?
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interface. I'll give it a try.
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Kwiatkowski. He probably has the code working
somewhere.
It's a nontrivial problem if you want to do it properly with VMs etc.
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keyring package -- see
http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/pycon-hallway-session-1-a-keyring-library-for-python/.
The poorer one of these will probably be axed unless Tarek gives it
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and tkinter), Titus ? I'm considering this
- more important than just dealing with the tracker issues.
What, I tell you that your app is going to be accepted and we shouldn't
argue about it, and you want to argue about it? ;)
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was
yesterday.
The next Google gives us money to wrangle students into doing
development project will probably be GHOP for highschool students, in
the winter, although it has not been announced and may not happen.
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-
- Also, it's not image, or 3d format types -- since those are also a way
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and how many applications are good.
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- C. Titus Brown wrote:
- On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 07:30:01PM -0300, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote:
- I do think you should be prepared for pushback from python-dev on any
- such ideas ;). Don't get too ambitious about writing up *your
. Mind you, ultimately the
people doing the work should make the decisions, but input from
python-dev is usually pretty useful even when it's contradictory!
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. I know that zope has done some good doctest stuff,
for example; the 'testing-in-python' list would be a good place to go
for finding out more.
Note, you don't have to offer to be the mentor to post it, but it would
help ;)
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on it over the summer, so continuing it in various ways could
be a GSoC project.
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to add to unittest would be to want to give it to
a student. I think a student would probably not be willing or able to
fight the battles necessary to get his/her changes into the core...
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Does anyone smell a few GSoC projects? (And maybe GHOP if Google
decides to run it again; no word yet.)
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[0] Which is to say: a variety of reasons, many of which are obviously
arguable, otherwise the Pyrex maintainer would have quit maintaining
Pyrex :). But let's not go into them!
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my future
projects.
(darcs, of course, is kind of a low bar: it has some scalability issues,
and it is feature-poor relative to hg and bzr in patch cherry-picking,
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such a thing in the stdlib is really useful and I also think it's worth
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that's really great.
I don't think the convenience of batteries *included* should be
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On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:01:35AM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
- At 7:37 AM -0700 9/4/08, C. Titus Brown wrote:
- On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 10:29:10AM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
- ...
- - Shipping an application to end users is a different problem. Such
packages
- - should include a private copy
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 07:01:47PM +0200, Jesus Cea wrote:
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- C. Titus Brown wrote:
- Since I/we want to distribute pygr to end-users, this is really not a
- pleasant prospect. Also often the installation of Python itself goes
- much more
.
sqlite could be one choice, but I haven't used it much yet, so I don't
know.
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[0] Python graph database for bioinformatics,
http://code.google.com/p/pygr
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the current API uninspiring but ok, and
those who absolutely hate it. Has anyone said that they *love* the
current unittest API with all of its boilerplate? If not, then I think
that says something, no?
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:15:29PM -0700, C. Titus Brown wrote:
- At this point I might suggest taking a look at the nose and py.test
- discovery rules and writing a simple test discovery system to find
- wrap 'test_' functions/classes and doctests in a unittest wrapper.
-
- Many people use nose
the
discover_tests function, e.g.
python -m unittest [directory [filter]]
or some such...
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Tests should be as simple as possible, and no simpler.
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libraries...
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On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:12:52AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
- Bill Janssen writes:
- ~/Library/ is a Mac OS X thing.
-
-Bill Sure, but it's clearly where this should be on an OS X
system, by
-Bill default.
-
-[etc.]
-
- [tocatta and fugue ad lib]
-
-
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:25PM -0200, Facundo Batista wrote:
- 2008/1/3, Titus Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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- What needs to be done with 2.6? I'm happy to review patches, although
- even were commit access on offer I'm too scatterbrained to do a good job
- of it.
-
- We have 109 patches
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 02:49:27PM -0500, Fred Drake wrote:
- On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
- My main gripe is with code contributions to Py3k and 2.6; Py3k is
- mostly done by a handful of people, and almost nobody is working much
- on 2.6.
-
- For those of us still
- Incidentally, I'm planning to set up an SVK repos containing the GHOP
- doc patches; that way they can stay sync'ed with 2.6 work. I'd be happy
- to do the same thing with reviewed-and-probably-OK patches, although I
- don't know if repository proliferation is a generally good idea ;).
-
-
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:55:44PM +0100, Christian Heimes wrote:
- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
- You don't put the bar high for newbies on the Python project eh? :)
-
- I am assumign that most of those contributions code-wise need a fair
amount of
- knowledge of Python's internals?
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:24:16PM -0500, Joseph Armbruster wrote:
- Having a core mentor would be great but do they really have time for
- that? I've been lucky at finding people in #python / #python-dev) that can
- answer development inquiries (or at least verify something is or is not a
-
Hi all,
a bit of grep'ping and personal examination discovered the following
tests in trunk/ that could be converted to unittest or doctests. Any
thoughts, pro or con?
(I understand from Brett that the goal is to eradicate old-style
tests, by which I think he means tests that do not use
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 04:02:21PM +0100, Quentin Gallet-Gilles wrote:
- (oops, realized I didn't send it to the list, just to Titus)
-
- I remember that it was one of the tasks at the Python Sprint at Google last
- summer, so I guess this is a good idea (for GHOP, right ?)
Yep!
- From what
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 05:58:35PM -0800, Brett Cannon wrote:
- On Dec 19, 2007 4:33 PM, Raymond Hettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- The bots are kicking-off so many false alarms that it is becoming
difficult to tell whether a check-in genuinely broke a build.
-
- At the root of the problem
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 07:24:04AM -0500, Steve Holden wrote:
- Christian Heimes wrote:
- Good afternoon everybody!
-
- The new C API documentation contains some large files:
-
- 105K abstract.html
- 300K concrete.html
- 183K newtypes.html
-
- The concrete.html takes noticeable time to
Hi all,
is there a good, or standard memory benchmarking system for Python?
pybench doesn't return significantly different results when Python 2.6
is compiled with pymalloc and without pymalloc. Thinking on it, I'm not
too surprised -- pybench probably benchmarks a lot of stuff -- but some
detailed and specific way, we'd love to have
them.
Here are the new task guidelines:
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-psf/wiki/NewTaskGuidelines
and I'm happy to write up the tasks if people send me good ideas.
cheers,
--titus
- Forwarded message from Titus Brown
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 10:23:06AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
- On Nov 24, 2007 6:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Thanks, Titus. Both the doctest and trace tests pass with your change.
- Checked back in. I didn't run the full test suite, as test_sqlite causes a
- bus error on my Mac
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:32:25PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-
- Brett Looks like Skip's r59137 fix for working with tracing has led to
- Brett test_doctest to be broken on 2.5 and the trunk (at least
- Brett according to the buildbots). Can someone either revert the
-
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 07:59:58AM -0700, Anna Ravenscroft wrote:
- I noticed at the Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing that
- several major universities in the US are starting to offer intro (CS1)
- courses based on Python, among them:
- Georgia Tech
- CMU
- Bryn Mawr
It's been
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 12:08:52PM -0700, Trent Mick wrote:
- Thomas Heller wrote:
- Are there others that can provide a Windows buildbot? It would probably
- be good to have two -- and a WinXP one would be good.
-
- How much work is it to set one up, and to maintain it? Maybe I can offer
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:45:04AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-
- You at least take away a common excuse for lack of contributions.
- True whiners will just come up with new ones (e.g., the
- documentation isn't available in Sanskrit yet or the dog ate my
- changes before
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 07:32:42AM +0200, Martin v. L?wis wrote:
- Addressing only the issues of PCBuild8 and 64-bit architectures, I
- have tried to establish free buildbot support for the 64-bit
- architectures without any real success.
-
- Should the PSF be considering paying for
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:30:37AM -0600, Steven Bethard wrote:
- On 3/23/07, Hrvoje Nik??i?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 13:38 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
- Sounds good to me. In 3.0 we should probably not have os.popen*(), nor
- the popen2 module at all, and do
Hi all,
I posted about adding 'get_output', 'get_status_output', and
'get_status_output_errors' to subprocess here,
http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/mar-07/replacing-commands-with-subprocess
and got some interesting responses.
Briefly, my original proposal was to add these three functions:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:34:46PM +, Michael Foord wrote:
- Guido van Rossum wrote:
- Sure. os.fork() and the os.exec*() family can stay. But os.spawn*(),
- that abomination invented by Microsoft? I also hear no opposition
- against killign os.system() and os.popen()
-
- Except that
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