Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Victor Stinner
Le mer. 15 mai 2019 à 20:46, Guido van Rossum a écrit : > But trust me that the SC didn't take this decision lightly. It was unanimous, > and we have all thought about this a great deal (and listened to long > arguments pro and con). It's also impossible to satisfy everyone -- some > people

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
IMO the text of PEP 581 could use some improvements to capture more of the debate. For example: - If people want to submit PRs to the peps repo that correct *factual* mistakes in PEP 581, they're welcome to (and I will personally see that they will be merged). For example, IIRC you *can* reply to

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:53 AM Steve Dower wrote: > On 15May2019 0240, Paul Moore wrote: > > On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 09:51, Antoine Pitrou > wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:11:14 -0700 > >> Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> > >>> As the BDFL-Delegate for PEP 581, and with the unanimous backing

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Steve Dower
On 15May2019 0240, Paul Moore wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 09:51, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:11:14 -0700 Barry Warsaw wrote: As the BDFL-Delegate for PEP 581, and with the unanimous backing of the rest of the Steering Council, I hereby Accept this PEP. For future

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 5:38 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > Le mer. 15 mai 2019 à 11:31, Christian Heimes a > écrit : > > What are the next step? Will there be another PEP that explores how we > > are going to deal with migration, workflow changes, and how we plan to > > map current BPO features to

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Victor Stinner
Le mer. 15 mai 2019 à 11:31, Christian Heimes a écrit : > What are the next step? Will there be another PEP that explores how we > are going to deal with migration, workflow changes, and how we plan to > map current BPO features to Github? Yes, it's the: PEP 588 -- GitHub Issues Migration Plan

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Paul Moore
On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 09:51, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:11:14 -0700 > Barry Warsaw wrote: > > > As the BDFL-Delegate for PEP 581, and with the unanimous backing of the > > rest of the Steering Council, I hereby Accept this PEP. > > For future reference, is it possible to

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Christian Heimes
On 15/05/2019 10.55, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote: > On 15.05.2019 11:48, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:11:14 -0700 >> Barry Warsaw wrote: >> >>> As the BDFL-Delegate for PEP 581, and with the unanimous backing of >>> the rest of the Steering Council, I hereby Accept this

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev
On 15.05.2019 11:48, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:11:14 -0700 Barry Warsaw wrote: As the BDFL-Delegate for PEP 581, and with the unanimous backing of the rest of the Steering Council, I hereby Accept this PEP. For future reference, is it possible to post the Steering

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:11:14 -0700 Barry Warsaw wrote: > As the BDFL-Delegate for PEP 581, and with the unanimous backing of the rest > of the Steering Council, I hereby Accept this PEP. For future reference, is it possible to post the Steering Council's reflection and rationale on the PEP?

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 15 May 2019 08:40:58 +0100 Steve Holden wrote: > As a mere user I'd like to thank the developer team for biting this bullet. > Remembering the transition to Git I am sure that the further > democratisation (?) of the development process will similarly increase the > diversity and scope of

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Steve Holden
As a mere user I'd like to thank the developer team for biting this bullet. Remembering the transition to Git I am sure that the further democratisation (?) of the development process will similarly increase the diversity and scope of the development effort. It will indeed be a significant effort

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-14 Thread Victor Stinner
Congrats Mariatta :-) Victor Le mer. 15 mai 2019 à 03:14, Barry Warsaw a écrit : > > As the BDFL-Delegate for PEP 581, and with the unanimous backing of the rest > of the Steering Council, I hereby Accept this PEP. > > We would like to thank Mariatta for championing PEP 581, and to all the >

[Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
As the BDFL-Delegate for PEP 581, and with the unanimous backing of the rest of the Steering Council, I hereby Accept this PEP. We would like to thank Mariatta for championing PEP 581, and to all the contributors to the discussion, both pro and con. We appreciate your candor and respect for

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-15 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 16:52, Karthikeyan wrote: > Personally, I think more people will love it once they get to use it so if > something like 100 issues can be migrated to a sample repo with labels, > content etc. We're already using GitHub issues for pretty much everything in Python core

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Karthikeyan
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 12:41 AM Mariatta wrote: > I'd like to formally present to Python-dev PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues > for CPython > > Full text: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0581/ > > Thanks a lot for doing this! * The current bug tracker has low contributions and

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Brett Cannon
I'll start by saying I don't think a history lesson is important for this PEP. This is simply a matter of evaluating whether Roundup or GitHub issues is better for us and in the future. There's no real mistakes to watch out for or anything (and if there is it's that self-hosting has a cost ;) .

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 7, 2019, at 14:36, Mariatta wrote: > I was not involved in core Python development back then, so if it is really > important and if people think such paragraph needs to be part of the PEP, > then perhaps someone else more knowledgeable will need to help with this. > > Personally, I

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Mariatta
I've made the PR about "not closing all issues": https://github.com/python/peps/pull/917/files ᐧ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 2:12 PM Mariatta wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:35 PM Matthew Woodcraft > wrote: > >> >> One part of this PEP stands out to me: >> >> | We should not be moving all open issues to GitHub. Issues with little >> | or no activity should just be closed. Issues with no

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Mariatta
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 2:02 PM Skip Montanaro wrote: > I think it would be worthwhile to mention a couple > reasons, when the decision was made to use Roundup, etc. Without it, a > casual reader might think the core devs made a horrible mistake way > back when, and are only now getting around

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Mariatta
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM Manuel Cerón wrote: > > After some frustration with bpo, I decided to file some issues into the > meta tracker, just to find out that the link [1] provided by the Python > Developer's Guide [2] is broken, giving a connection timeout. > > Sometime ago we've started

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Mariatta
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:35 PM Matthew Woodcraft wrote: > > One part of this PEP stands out to me: > > | We should not be moving all open issues to GitHub. Issues with little > | or no activity should just be closed. Issues with no decision made for > | years should just be closed. > > I

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Skip Montanaro
> I'd like to formally present to Python-dev PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for > CPython > > Full text: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0581/ Thanks for doing this. I think there is a pretty strong argument to be made that mature, widely adopted systems like GitHub (or GitLab

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Matthew Woodcraft
On 07/03/2019 19.08, Mariatta wrote: I'd like to formally present to Python-dev PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython Full text: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0581/ This is my first PEP, and in my opinion it is ready for wider discussion. One part of this PEP stands out to me: | We

[Python-Dev] PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython

2019-03-07 Thread Mariatta
I'd like to formally present to Python-dev PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues for CPython Full text: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0581/ This is my first PEP, and in my opinion it is ready for wider discussion. I don't know if it is "ready for pronouncement" so I'm hoping to get mor