Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-08 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Saturday 08 January 2005 00:05, Jack Jansen wrote: This patch implements the proposed direct framework linking: http://python.org/sf/1097739 Looks good, I'll incorporate it. And as I haven't heard of any showstoppers for the -undefined dynamic_lookup (and Anthony seems to be offline

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 6, 2005, at 15:03, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Jan 6, 2005, at 14:59, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 6-jan-05, at 14:04, Jack Jansen wrote: On 6 Jan 2005, at 00:49, Martin v. Löwis wrote: The new solution is basically to go back to the Unix way of building an extension: link it against nothing and

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-07 Thread Jack Jansen
On 7 Jan 2005, at 11:08, Bob Ippolito wrote: 10.3 or later. For older OSX releases (either because you build Python on 10.2 or earlier, or because you've set MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET to a value of 10.2 or less) we use the old behaviour of linking with -framework Python. Wouldn't it be better to

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-06 Thread Jack Jansen
On 6 Jan 2005, at 00:49, Martin v. Löwis wrote: The new solution is basically to go back to the Unix way of building an extension: link it against nothing and sort things out at runtime. Not my personal preference, but at least we know that loading an extension into one Python won't bring in

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 6-jan-05, at 14:04, Jack Jansen wrote: On 6 Jan 2005, at 00:49, Martin v. Löwis wrote: The new solution is basically to go back to the Unix way of building an extension: link it against nothing and sort things out at runtime. Not my personal preference, but at least we know that loading an

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Ronald Oussoren wrote: Wouldn't it be better to link with the actual dylib inside the framework on 10.2? Otherwise you can no longer build 2.3 extensions after you've installed 2.4. That's what I thought, too. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 6, 2005, at 14:59, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 6-jan-05, at 14:04, Jack Jansen wrote: On 6 Jan 2005, at 00:49, Martin v. Löwis wrote: The new solution is basically to go back to the Unix way of building an extension: link it against nothing and sort things out at runtime. Not my personal

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-05 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 5-jan-05, at 9:33, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: It doesn't for reasons I care not to explain in depth, again. Search the pythonmac-sig archives for longer explanations. The gist is that you specifically do not want to link directly to the framework at all when building

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-05 Thread Michael Hudson
Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob Ippolito wrote: It doesn't for reasons I care not to explain in depth, again. Search the pythonmac-sig archives for longer explanations. The gist is that you specifically do not want to link directly to the framework at all when building

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-05 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:33 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: It doesn't for reasons I care not to explain in depth, again. Search the pythonmac-sig archives for longer explanations. The gist is that you specifically do not want to link directly to the framework at all when

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.5 schedule, and something I'd like to get in

2005-01-05 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 5, 2005, at 18:46, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: I just dug up some information I had written on this particular topic but never published, if you're interested: http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2005/01/05/versioned-frameworks- considered-harmful/ Interesting. I don't get