[Python-Dev] Re: 2.3.5 delayed til next week

2005-01-17 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
holiday here, and so that's the day that's most likely for me... Sounds good to me. Anything in that range is equally doable. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] a bunch of Patch reviews

2005-01-18 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: Moving towards Python 3.0 (was Re: [Python-Dev] Speed up functioncalls)

2005-02-01 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
will be convinced that the file is still open and refuse to let you delete it. To fix that, you'd have to trigger GC from the failed removal operation and try again. I think we'd find there are a lot more operations that need that support than we'd like to think. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr

[Python-Dev] Re: [Python-checkins] python/dist/src/Lib xmlrpclib.py, 1.38, 1.39

2005-02-10 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
be conservative in what we generate. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive

[Python-Dev] Re: [Python-checkins] python/dist/src/Lib xmlrpclib.py, 1.38, 1.39

2005-02-10 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
() suffices for that much. Tack on .replace('-', '') to do the whole job. Yep, that would work too. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

[Python-Dev] Re: [Python-checkins] python/dist/src/Lib xmlrpclib.py, 1.38, 1.39

2005-02-10 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
the range of what's accepted and produced by the various XML-RPC libraries, but I've not looked hard for it. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

[Python-Dev] distutils/PyPI package metadata fields

2005-03-21 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
-Encoding field should be included. There should also be a field for the version of Python that's required. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: python/dist/src/Lib/distutils/command upload.py, 1.3, 1.4

2005-03-22 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
or on a project web page. A proper field will be added for this in the future (hopefully not too distant). -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

[Python-Dev] Re: python/dist/src/Lib/distutils/command upload.py, 1.3, 1.4

2005-03-22 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
). Getting the metadata wrong is just too evil. Now that more people have seen the code for PyPI (and understand more of it), it'll be easier to implement new fields once they've been carefully defined. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] webbrowser.py: browser /dev/null 21

2005-03-23 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
the API, if its useful at all. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive

Re: [Python-Dev] webbrowser.py: browser /dev/null 21

2005-03-23 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
, a developer should not find difficulty to reverse that if needed. Right. I think if the API provides a control for this and some mention is made in the documentation, that would be good. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] python.org crashing Mozilla?

2005-04-26 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
platforms, would be helpful. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive

Re: [Python-Dev] Old Python version categories in Bug Tracker

2005-05-30 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
to describe them. So Python 2.2.2 can become Python 2.2.2 (unmaintained). Whether this is desirable or not, I'm not sure. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Old Python version categories in Bug Tracker

2005-05-30 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
categories/groups were marked unusable for new submissions. But that's not necessary in any way. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] List copy and clear (was Re: Inconsistent API for sets.Set and build-in set)

2005-06-30 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Thursday 30 June 2005 17:26, Raymond Hettinger wrote: the current idiom: mylist[:] = [] # clear Unless you happen to prefer the other current idiom: del mylist[:] -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Decimal rounding doc

2005-07-01 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
, with this link to the specific PEP section, so that we can get this fixed. Unless, of course, you have the time and inclination to finish it off yourself. :-) (I know, I've not been very helpful getting doc issues cleared up lately; I'm hoping that'll get a bit better soon.) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake

Re: [Python-Dev] Terminology for PEP 343

2005-07-05 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 02:57, Greg Ewing wrote: I'm thinking about something like context manager, or at least something with context in it. Oh, I like this one. Context manager / context protocol work well for me. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] should doc string content == documentation content?

2005-07-24 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
such low-hanging fruit is worthwhile.) What do other people think? The low-hanging fruit, of course, is to close the report with a 'reject' status. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] should doc string content == documentation content?

2005-07-25 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
away. Yes, it does. Avoiding the maintenance burden is a matter of having only one source for the docs, and doesn't not inform the selection of which place is best in a substantial way. A little though. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Migrating the Python CVS to Subversion

2005-07-28 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
to keep multiple projects in a single repository for zope.org. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Migrating the Python CVS to Subversion

2005-07-29 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
not sure if there are any political issues about that, but I think everyone actively developing on that project has been happy with the move. (Only the berlios.de Subversion is being used; everything else remains at SourceForge IIRC.) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Migrating the Python CVS to Subversion

2005-07-29 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
can provide more details of what he had to do; I was only slightly involved in the discussions. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Migrating the Python CVS to Subversion

2005-07-29 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
convert our trunk, which took several hours. The main time sink was in the load step of the conversion process. This might be a possibility for Python as well, though we have a much less complex branching structure, so the conversion may not be so difficult. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr

Re: [Python-Dev] Pre-PEP: Exception Reorganization for Python 3.0

2005-07-31 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
with them generically if they can reasonably want to deal with either), then it seems they need a common base: +--AnyDeprecationWarning +--DeprecationWarning +--PendingDeprecationWarning -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Pre-PEP: Exception Reorganization for Python 3.0

2005-07-31 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: [Python-Dev] Pre-PEP: Exception Reorganization for Python 3.0

2005-07-31 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
. That makes it a child of Raisable, not Error. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] PyTuple_Pack added references undocumented

2005-08-07 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
won't deal with the varargs portion of the signature, but it can deal with the return value and normal arguments without worrying about varargs portions of the signature for any function. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] dev listinfo page (was: Re: Python + Ping)

2005-08-16 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
now. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Style for raising exceptions (pytho n-dev Summary for 2005-08-01 through 2005-08-15 [draft])

2005-08-26 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
to be raised and then caught again abstractly, in addition to allow anydbm.error to act as a base exception that catches the specific errors raised by the backend databases. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] partition() (was: Remove str.find in 3.0?)

2005-08-29 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 11:26, Raymond Hettinger wrote: FWIW, I am VERY happy with the name partition(). I like it too. +1 -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http

Re: [Python-Dev] Revising RE docs (was: partition() (was: Remove str.find in 3.0?))

2005-08-30 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Python core documentation

2005-09-06 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
with this in the next 5 minutes. Sorry. I do intend to read your message carefully and respond then. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

Re: [Python-Dev] list splicing

2005-09-19 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
. That's what strikes me as different in this discussion. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] bool(iter([])) changed between 2.3 and 2.4

2005-09-20 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
discussion here just now leads me to believe that at least two of us here (including myself) think iterators shouldn't have length at all: they're *not* containers and shouldn't act that way. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev

[Python-Dev] Python 2.4.2 documentation online

2005-09-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
releases. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Extending tuple unpacking

2005-10-09 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
. Well stated. I'm in complete agreement on this matter. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] PythonCore\CurrentVersion

2005-10-10 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: [Python-Dev] Comparing date+time w/ just time

2005-10-22 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
. Dates and times, separate from a date-time, are completely unsupported by the bare XML-RPC protocol. Applications must determine what they mean and how to encode them in XML-RPC separately if they need to do so. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
as quickly as possible, but it's a manual process just to get the mail through. We should probably have a dedicated address for this, or tell people to send them to webmaster. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
-deposit address be routed to the webmaster crew? Most of the webmasters don't have the access needed to deposit keys. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Conversion to Subversion is complete

2005-10-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
candidate, because we get the advantages of peer review. For things that describe policy, I don't think that's so great. For policy (how to use SVN for Python development, because we have certain rules), I think we want to maintain strict editorial control. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-29 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
, a listing of files that _would_ change if you were to do svn update. It's worth noting that svn status -u does require network access, since it has to check with the repository to see what's been updated there. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] commit of r41352 - in python/trunk: . Lib Lib/distutils Lib/distutils/command Lib/encodings

2005-10-29 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
and svn:ignore. Shouldn't we simply remove the .cvsignore files? Subversion doesn't use them, so they'll just end up getting out of sync with the svn:ignore properties. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] StreamHandler eating exceptions

2005-10-30 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Sunday 30 October 2005 18:37, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote: I'd like to apply the following patch: +1 Might want to include SystemExit as well, though I think that's less likely to be seen in practice. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] CVS repository mostly closed now

2005-11-28 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Monday 28 November 2005 20:14, 장혜식 wrote: There's a hacky trick to remove them: put rm -rf $CVSROOT/src into CVSROOT/loginfo and remove the line then and commit again. :) Wow, that is tricky! Glad it wasn't me who thought of this one. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake

Re: [Python-Dev] xml package in standard library

2005-12-13 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
time. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Website cruft

2005-12-14 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
no longer be used as we have now migrated to CVS on Sourceforge :-( Try it now. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Python-Dev] xml package in standard library

2005-12-14 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
: vwrite_tuple: Assertion `opt || cstr' failed. Aborted I've never seen anything like that from Subversion before. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Python-Dev] ElementTree in stdlib

2005-12-14 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
to each version. I think the whole PyXML v. the standard library dabacle has taught us that there should *always* be an explicit path to each version of a module or package. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] status of development documentation

2005-12-21 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
belongs on the Doc-SIG; I've CC'd that list. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python

Re: [Python-Dev] status of development documentation

2005-12-22 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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[Python-Dev] LaTeX and Python doc contributions

2005-12-22 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
it to me for conversion. I do not want LaTeX itself to cause us to lose documentation contributions; the hard part for documentation really is getting good content. Hard workers shouldn't be turned away. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] LaTeX and Python doc contributions

2005-12-22 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
make sure it's easy for everyone to contribute. I'm certainly interested in suggestions, though I make all of them happen. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] LaTeX and Python doc contributions

2005-12-22 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
): please make a note of this in your next summary. The I-can't-contribute-because-I-don't-know-LaTeX notion has to die, die, die. An excellent idea! -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] documentation comments

2005-12-22 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
. :-) In general, my worry is less with dealing with spam than with ensuring integration of content enhancements before release candidates go out. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http

Re: [Python-Dev] Automated Python testing (was Re: status of development documentation)

2005-12-25 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
; dynamic DNS is fine if the name propogation to the slaves is fast). The slaves do not need to be reachable from the buildbot master, since the slave is responsible for contacting the master. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] status of development documentation

2005-12-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 08:06, Fredrik Lundh wrote: the trunk link on http://www.python.org/dev/doc/ Fixed now; thanks for the reminder. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Naming conventions in Py3K

2005-12-30 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Friday 30 December 2005 06:31, Ka-Ping Yee wrote: Is there a really good reason to do that? It's not obvious to me. No more than there is to rename None to none or NONE. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] Checking in a broken test was: Re : [Python-checkins]r41940 - python/trunk/Lib/test/ test_compiler.py

2006-01-08 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
unmark the test. This avoids having to refactor test classes just to update the status of a test. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] ConfigParser to save with order

2006-01-09 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
? I had a class to do the really-careful editing bit like Guido described once, but lost it in a disk crash several years ago. I really wish I'd gotten that into revision control somewhere, but it's too late now. I've not needed that badly enough to re-write it. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr

Re: [Python-Dev] Checking in a broken test was: Re: [Python-checkins]r41940 - python/trunk/Lib/test/test_compiler.py

2006-01-13 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
; mirroring the exact form of the word fail doesn't make sense; making it readable does. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r42116 - pyth on/branches/release24-maint/Lib/unittest.py

2006-01-21 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
already included in the urlparse module is a URN scheme from CNRI. Either we should support URNs, or we should consider deprecating support for that one. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Octal literals

2006-01-31 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: [Python-Dev] Let's just *keep* lambda

2006-02-05 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
and time on an impossible quest. +1 -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] http://www.python.org/dev/doc/devel still available

2006-02-13 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: [Python-Dev] http://www.python.org/dev/doc/devel still available

2006-02-13 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
; PageRank(tm) numbers don't get transferred as quickly as contents. I have this worry too in the context of the python.org redesign; 301 permanent redirect is *not* going to help PageRank of the new page.) Maybe I'm just not getting why that's relevant. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 332 revival in coordination with pep 349? [ Was:Re: release plan for 2.5 ?]

2006-02-13 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
, 1, 2, 3]) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] bytes type discussion

2006-02-14 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 PEP

2006-02-17 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
. python-dev topics occaissionally pop up for me, but time has been too limited to get back to the important items, like this one. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposal: defaultdict

2006-02-17 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
I've actually dealt with where I wanted a variation of a mapping with default values. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

Re: [Python-Dev] Counter proposal: multidict (was: Proposal: defaultdict)

2006-02-17 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
comes up, but not the only one. and in the process breaking an important quality of good Python code, that attribute and getitem access not have noticeable side effects. I'm not sure that's quite as well-defined or agreed upon as you do. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot is all green

2006-02-19 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
to that on buildbot.zope.org as well? ;-) The improved use of horizontal space is good. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot is all green

2006-02-19 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Sunday 19 February 2006 18:07, Walter Dörwald wrote: How about this one: http://styx.livinglogic.de/~walter/python/BuildBot_%20Python.html Sigh. This is nice too. Now I'm not sure which I'd rather see on zope.org. ;-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] towards a stricter definition of sys.executable

2006-03-16 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.5 Schedule

2006-03-19 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
Eastern time). -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail

Re: [Python-Dev] Libref sections to put new modules under?

2006-03-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
obviously goes under Structured Markup Processing Tools. Yes to both. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Python-Dev] Class decorators

2006-03-28 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
components). -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Class decorators

2006-03-28 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: [Python-Dev] Class decorators

2006-03-28 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 00:48, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: I think the existing usage for classes is perfectly readable. The @-syntax works well for functions as well. On re-reading what I wrote, I don't think I actually clarified the point I was trying to make originally. My point wasn't

Re: [Python-Dev] pysqlite for 2.5?

2006-03-29 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 21:55, Greg Ewing wrote: import db where db.stdlib == True and db.language == SQL \ and db.interface == DBAPI2.0 While we're at it, we could spell import select. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Class decorators

2006-03-31 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
and the def; having class decorators embedded within the class should still allow the docstring to be the first thing, so there's more distance between the decorator and the name being decorated. The extra hint about what's being decorated is nice. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Need Py3k group in trackers

2006-04-03 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Monday 03 April 2006 14:45, Guido van Rossum wrote: Could one of the tracker admins add a Python-3000 group to the SF trackers (while we're still using them :-)? This is so we can easily move proposals between Python 3000 and Python 2.x status. Done. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr

Re: [Python-Dev] Reminder: TRUNK FREEZE. 2.5a1, 00:00 UTC, Wednesday 5th of April.

2006-04-04 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
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Re: [Python-Dev] str.partition?

2006-04-06 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Thursday 06 April 2006 18:09, Georg Brandl wrote: a while ago, Raymond proposed str.partition, and I guess the reaction was positive. So what about including it now? +1 -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file

2006-04-14 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Friday 14 April 2006 06:35, Andrew Clover wrote: Files and preview here: http://doxdesk.com/img/software/py/icons2.zip http://doxdesk.com/img/software/py/icons2.png Very nice! -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] posix_confstr seems wrong

2006-04-17 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
when Fred added it. Looks like a bug to me. It should be set just before confstr() is called. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] setuptools in the stdlib

2006-04-18 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
for that as well as your implementation efforts. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev

[Python-Dev] GNU info version of documentation

2006-04-25 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
] Error 255 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/fdrake/projects/python/trunk/Doc/info' make: *** [info] Error 2 -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Python-Dev] Dropping __init__.py requirement for subpackages

2006-04-26 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
have tests that do this. This is a very real use case. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Dropping __init__.py requirement for subpackages

2006-04-26 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
isn't the new behavior, but the change in the behavior. That's certainly it for me. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file

2006-04-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
of these modern desktops just to get all the pretty pictures. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3102: Keyword-only arguments

2006-05-01 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
dependencies on the specific signature of the function. In a subsequent version of the function, the function is determined to need additional information. The only way to add an argument is to use a keyword for which there is no positional equivalent. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr

[Python-Dev] New methods for weakref.Weak*Dictionary types

2006-05-01 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
, and the WeakValueDictionary gains the .itervaluerefs() and .valuerefs() methods. The patch includes tests and docs. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] New methods for weakref.Weak*Dictionary types

2006-05-01 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
`valuerefs` implementation to weed out weakrefs whose referents are already gone: the caller has to make this check anyway when it iterates over the Good point; I've updated the patch accordingly. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3102: Keyword-only arguments

2006-05-02 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 22:32, Guido van Rossum wrote: and '@deco'). Pronounced at-deck-oh, @deco is an art-deco variant favored in r-deprived regions. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] A Horrible Inconsistency

2006-05-26 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
, and - why we'd use it with a string and an int. I see possibilities here. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
releases. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-10 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
will be there. I'd rather not propogate the pain caused xml package insanity any further. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Python-Dev] sgmllib Comments

2006-06-11 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
on the old behavior, I'll be glad to look at the problems. I expect to have some time in the next few evenings, so I should be able to look at these soon. Is the SourceForge CVS the definitive development source for the feed parser? -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] External Package Maintenance (was Re: Please stop changing wsgiref on the trunk)

2006-06-12 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Monday 12 June 2006 13:42, Guido van Rossum wrote: Maybe we should get serious about slimming down the core distribution and having a separate group of people maintain sumo bundles containing Python and lots of other stuff. +1 -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

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