Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 02:09 Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 2018-06-05, 15:03 GMT, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > I was actually looking into this recently to see if the > > repository import feature could be used to run a regularly > > updated repository mirror that included all issues and PR > > comments in

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-06 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2018-06-05, 15:03 GMT, Nick Coghlan wrote: > I was actually looking into this recently to see if the > repository import feature could be used to run a regularly > updated repository mirror that included all issues and PR > comments in addition to the code, Good, thank you very much. I

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 5 June 2018 at 23:10, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 2018-06-04, 23:38 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > No, but Guido is right: neither is anyone else. > > > > In that regard, Microsoft is probably *more* likely to keep pumping > > money into a failing business if it gives them a strategic advantage,

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-05 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 5.6.2018 15:10, Matěj Cepl wrote: On 2018-06-04, 23:38 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: No, but Guido is right: neither is anyone else. In that regard, Microsoft is probably *more* likely to keep pumping money into a failing business if it gives them a strategic advantage, compared to other

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-05 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2018-06-04, 23:38 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > No, but Guido is right: neither is anyone else. > > In that regard, Microsoft is probably *more* likely to keep pumping > money into a failing business if it gives them a strategic advantage, > compared to other investors with no long-term

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-05 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Something that may change is the way they treat Github accounts, after all, MS is very much a sales driven company. But then there's always the possibility to move to Gitlab as alternative (hosted or run on PSF VMs), so I would worry too much. Do note, however, that the value in Github is not so

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 07:25:49PM +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 2018-06-04, 16:06 GMT, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > I don't see how this *increases* the uncertainty. Surely if > > GitHub had remained independent there would have been be > > similar concerns about how it would make enough money

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev
On 04.06.2018 21:46, Ethan Furman wrote: On 06/04/2018 10:49 AM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: I think we shouldn't be speculating or making guesses. We should have contingency plans and be prepared.  More than one bought-out competitor has simply disappeared, or been hamstrung in its

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2018-06-04, 16:06 GMT, Guido van Rossum wrote: > I don't see how this *increases* the uncertainty. Surely if > GitHub had remained independent there would have been be > similar concerns about how it would make enough money to stay > in business. Beacuse Microsoft is known to keep a money

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Ben Finney
Ethan Furman writes: > On 06/04/2018 10:49 AM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > > > I think we shouldn't be speculating or making guesses. > > We should have contingency plans and be prepared. More than one > bought-out competitor has simply disappeared, or been hamstrung in its > effectiveness. Yes.

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Ethan Furman
On 06/04/2018 10:49 AM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: I think we shouldn't be speculating or making guesses. We should have contingency plans and be prepared. More than one bought-out competitor has simply disappeared, or been hamstrung in its effectiveness. -- ~Ethan~

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 04/06/2018 à 19:49, Mariatta Wijaya a écrit : > I think we shouldn't be speculating or making guesses. > If people are concerned with how Microsoft will manage GitHub, please > talk to Microsoft or GitHub representative, and not gossip in python-dev. What would talking to a MS or GH

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Mariatta Wijaya
I think we shouldn't be speculating or making guesses. If people are concerned with how Microsoft will manage GitHub, please talk to Microsoft or GitHub representative, and not gossip in python-dev. If there is actual news or announcement of how GitHub will change, and how it will affect our

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
That's true, but Microsoft has a lot of stakes in the ecosystem. For example, since it has its own CI service that it tries to promote (VSTS), is it in Microsoft's best interest to polish and improve integrations with other CI services? Regards Antoine. On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 09:06:28 -0700

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 17:03:27 +0200 > Victor Stinner wrote: > > > > At this point, I have no opinion about the event :-) I just guess that > > it should make GitHub more sustainable since Microsoft is a big > > company with money and

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 17:03:27 +0200 Victor Stinner wrote: > > At this point, I have no opinion about the event :-) I just guess that > it should make GitHub more sustainable since Microsoft is a big > company with money and interest in GitHub. I'm also confident that > nothing will change soon.