[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread Christopher Barker
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 1:04 PM Paul Moore wrote: > Why is that an issue? In the first instance, do the sorts of > "beginner" we're discussing here have multiple python installs? Would > they need per-interpreter configuration of UTF-8 mode? > yes -- many, many tutorials, particularly about web

[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread Inada Naoki
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 6:02 AM Paul Moore wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 17:32, Inada Naoki wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:42 PM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > > > > > Here's a good blog post about setting env vars on Windows: > > > > > >

[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread Eryk Sun
On 2/9/21, Inada Naoki wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:42 PM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > But it affects to all Python installs. Can teachers recommend to set > PYTHONUTF8 environment variable for students? Users can simply create a shortcut that targets `cmd /k set PYTHONUTF8=1`. Optionally

[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread Paul Moore
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 17:32, Inada Naoki wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:42 PM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > > > Here's a good blog post about setting env vars on Windows: > > > >

[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread Christopher Barker
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:28 AM Inada Naoki wrote: > It makes problem too hard, complex. It leads we can not fix anything > at all by Python 3.10. > We can add Unix support later if it is really worth enough. It is not > backward incompatible change. > yes and no -- if we don't anticipate

[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread Inada Naoki
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:42 PM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > Here's a good blog post about setting env vars on Windows: > > https://www.dowdandassociates.com/blog/content/howto-set-an-environment-variable-in-windows-command-line-and-registry/ > > It's not really much harder than on Unix platforms. >

[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread Christopher Barker
> > > It's not really much harder than on Unix platforms. > > The only catch is that Windows users will often not know about such > env vars or how to use them, because on Windows you typically set up > your configuration via the application and using the registry. > Exactly -- it's not so much

[Python-ideas] Re: Conditional with statements

2021-02-09 Thread Jonathan Crall
@Iasizoillo > Only if you don't setup vars like official example* or not calc some statistic after timered block I wrote the official docs, so I'm aware of that case. In the case where setup variables are required it make sense to me to have an extra level of indentation. It just bothers me that

[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Here's a good blog post about setting env vars on Windows: https://www.dowdandassociates.com/blog/content/howto-set-an-environment-variable-in-windows-command-line-and-registry/ It's not really much harder than on Unix platforms. The only catch is that Windows users will often not know about

[Python-ideas] Re: warning when importing a file from directoty

2021-02-09 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello, On Tue, 09 Feb 2021 10:13:06 - "Jonatan " wrote: > Someone? Sure. You might be using this mailing list with a web interface or something, where you see a message, hit reply button, type a few words and think people will see just what you had before your eyes. That's not how email

[Python-ideas] Re: warning when importing a file from directoty

2021-02-09 Thread Jonatan
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[Python-ideas] Re: Make UTF-8 mode more accessible for Windows users.

2021-02-09 Thread Inada Naoki
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 4:53 PM Christopher Barker wrote: > >> >> because UTF-8 mode helps many Windows users but it is not accessible >> enough for Windows users. > > > It's not just accessibility, but discoverability -- Windows users -- and even > more so developers that don't generally use