Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 5:02 PM, INADA Naoki wrote: > $ ./python.exe -V > Python 3.6.0b2+ > > $ ./python.exe -VV > Python 3.6.0b2+ (3.6:0b29adb5c804+, Oct 17 2016, 15:00:12) > [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 8.0.0 (clang-800.0.38)] LGTM. What's the view on backporting

Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > I'm fine with making "-V" itself a counted option, and hence > supporting -VV *instead of* -vV. > > The only approach I'm not OK with is allowing both -VV *and* the > mixed-case form to request more detailed version

Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-17 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 17 October 2016 at 15:51, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> On 17 October 2016 at 13:40, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:

Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-16 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 16 October 2016 at 04:36, INADA Naoki wrote: [Serhiy wrote] >> >> Are there precedences of combining verbose and version options in other >> programs? >> > > No, I was just afraid about other programs rely on format of python -V. That would be my concern as well -

Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-15 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
On 14.10.16 10:40, INADA Naoki wrote: When reporting issue to some project and want to include python version in the report, python -V shows very limited information. $ ./python.exe -V Python 3.6.0b2+ sys.version is more usable, but it requires one liner. $ ./python.exe -c 'import sys;

Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 15 October 2016 at 03:52, Sebastian Krause wrote: > Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> The compiler information generally reveals the OS as well (if only >> accidentally), and the OS is often useful information. > > But in which situation would you really need

Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-14 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Sebastian Krause wrote: > Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> The compiler information generally reveals the OS as well (if only >> accidentally), and the OS is often useful information. > > But in which situation would you really

Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-14 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, wrote: > For all intents and purposes other than debugging C (for cpython, rpython > for pypy, java for jython, .NET for IronPython... you get the idea), the > extra details are unnecessary to debug most problems. Most of the time it >

Re: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV`

2016-10-14 Thread tritium-list
> list=sdamon@python.org] On Behalf Of INADA Naoki > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:40 AM > To: python-ideas <python-ideas@python.org> > Subject: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV` > > When reporting issue to some project and want to include > python versi