Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/12/2013 04:32, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-12-03, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of making Python 3 the default version and having everybody be cool with unicode. I'm cool with

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/12/2013 01:38, Roy Smith wrote: In article mailman.3485.1386021891.18130.python-l...@python.org, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. I believe that Pythonistas should

Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/02/2013 12:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/12/2013 20:26, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2013 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: the worst loser in the world Mark, I consider your continual direct personal attacks on other posters to be a violation of the PSF Code of Conduct, which *does*

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 02/12/2013 21:25, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/02/2013 12:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/12/2013 20:26, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2013 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: the worst loser in the world Mark, I consider your continual direct personal attacks on other posters to be a violation

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 12/2/13 4:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/02/2013 12:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/12/2013 20:26, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2013 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: the worst loser in the world Mark, I consider your continual direct personal attacks on other posters to be a violation

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Roy Smith
In article mailman.3485.1386021891.18130.python-l...@python.org, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the goal,

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/2/2013 4:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: jmf is certainly a troll No, he is a person who discovered a minor performance regression in the FSR, which we fixed. Unfortunately, he then continued for a year with a strange troll-like anti-FSR crusade. But his posts in the Unicode handling

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-12-03, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of making Python 3 the default version and having everybody be cool with unicode. I'm cool with Unicode as long as it just works without me

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/02/2013 07:22 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2013 4:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: jmf is certainly a troll No, he is a person who discovered a minor performance regression in the FSR, which we fixed. Unfortunately, he then continued for a year with a strange troll-like anti-FSR crusade.

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 04:32:13 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-12-03, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of making Python 3 the default version and having everybody be cool with unicode.