Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-11 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/11/2014 2:27 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk writes: IDLE is available on all platforms and is written in tkinter. But personally I'd rather use the command line :) In the meantime, I have learned that tkinter in fact has become part of a standard

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Stefan Ram r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE and C# already are better than Python insofar

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 10/06/2014 04:32, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE and C# already are better than Python insofar as they include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Python one

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Keller
The most intuitive approach to database applications would be: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_objects http://www.nakedobjects.org/ [...] Unfortunately, there's no Python framework (yet?) that implements this design. It could be a blessing in disguise. Too often people

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE and C# already are better than Python insofar as they include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Python one first has to choose between more than a

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefan Ram r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE and C# already are better than Python insofar

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Keller
I had developed many database business applications using MVC design pattern with different programming languages like PHP, Java EE, VB.NET, C#, VB 6.0, VBA, etc. All of them defined the Model layer as the data management of the application domain and business logic implementation. I ready

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-02 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net: The most intuitive approach to database applications would be: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_objects http://www.nakedobjects.org/ [...] Unfortunately, there's no Python framework (yet?) that implements this design. It could be a blessing in

Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-01 Thread Ernest Bonat, Ph.D.
Hi All, I had developed many database business applications using MVC design pattern with different programming languages like PHP, Java EE, VB.NET, C#, VB 6.0, VBA, etc. All of them defined the Model layer as the data management of the application domain and business logic implementation. I

[OT] Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-01 Thread Dan Sommers
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 10:37:24 -0700, Ernest Bonat, Ph.D. wrote: ... MVC design pattern ... defined the Model layer as the data management of the application domain and business logic implementation ... Can we implement the application business logic in another layer? Yes or no? Why? Explain?