I don't agree with 99.9%, but the majority of Flash sites are done
poorly. Mine is certainly sub-optimal, :)
1. Loss of back button
Isn't this really a myth? A page with a time dimension, be it Flash,
HTML/JS or whatever, breaks the back button. A page without a time
dimension doesn't break
Perhaps the my question should be this, and don't get me wrong, I
REALLY like Python.
Perhaps Python is not a great language to focus on for someone with a
strong interest in Flash and little interest in HTML?
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SamFeltus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for the blind issue,that makes no sense to me. Is the suggestion
that we should give up using images in web sites since some people
can't see them. Might as well throw out the use of the img tag while
we are at it?
Img tags should always have alt text
Sybren Stuvel wrote:
Heiko Wundram enlightened us with:
And: the web is a platform to offer _information_. Not to offer
shiny graphics/sound [...]
Many would disagree...
Not me, but I know a lot of people that would.
I would. Most people would, once they realize that shiny/flashy is
SamFeltus wrote:
Here is a visual argument,
http://samfeltus.com/swf/contact_globes.swf
Here's a text-based argument.
If I search Golge for gardener, Athens, GA then Google's spiders
won't have recorded your contact page. So I don't find you as a local
gardener, so I don't hire you for my
SamFeltus wrote:
1. Loss of back button
Isn't this really a myth? A page with a time dimension, be it Flash,
HTML/JS or whatever, breaks the back button. A page without a time
dimension doesn't break the back button. Should we now and forever
more give up the time dimension to avoid
This has all been very helpful. I've been struggling for awhile on
which direction to go with computer programming. I realize the problem
with HTML and the P language family is that although it makes sense to
me, it doesn't really resonate with my perspective. Flash definitely
does. I finally
SamFeltus enlightened us with:
1. Loss of back button
Isn't this really a myth?
No, it isn't a myth. Pressing the back button is the action second
most performed in a browser, clicking a link being the first. People
want to go back from where they came.
A page with a time dimension, be it
SamFeltus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am uncomfortable with the seperating of the code from the visual/time
element, as well as the lack of emphasis on the visual/time element.
Maybe you should buy a camcorder and make movies, instead of doing web
sites.
I am not a big Perl/PHP fan, I find
Nah, the world needs more Flashy WebSites, :) But I do renounce my
uglier criticisms of HTML. I realize now it is just a completely
different mindset, not a bad technology.
Python is far easier than PHP IMO. Especially if there is minimal
HTML, I mostly just want to get at a database and
Sybren Stuvel schreef:
SamFeltus enlightened us with:
1. Loss of back button
Isn't this really a myth?
No, it isn't a myth. Pressing the back button is the action second
most performed in a browser, clicking a link being the first. People
want to go back from where they came.
I don't even
Don't worry, you won't have to look if it makes you feel dirty...
:)
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SamFeltus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do find it interesting that Flash folks readily will acknowledge
that Flash has shortcomings, yet anti-Flash folks seem to have great
difficulty acknowledging Flash's positive features over HTML. Such
situations always make me suspicious Ludditism is at
I find it tiresome that Flash apologists believe technical
advantages
can overcome a need for open, community-driven, vendor-independent
standards.
:)
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None of you seem to know what you are talking about.
Flash should be used where one needs to use Flash, and HTML/JS/CSS
(+XML+XSLT) likewise.
Flash can play video. That is not possible w/ HTML/CSS/JS.
Flash also behaves consistently cross-browser, cross/platform -- and
most features cannot be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Flash is like a 2 MB download that works in almost *every* browser
out there.
Except all the browsers on platforms Macromedia have not chosen to
support. And no-one else can implement it on those platforms, except
by guessing about the closed implementation
I am in agreement that open standards are better. I also wish the open
standards bodies would work more creatively, to bring us the most
advanced standards, and not some echo of yesterdays technology. But,
too me, saying No Flash is saying No Source if not Open Source. But,
for me, it is better
[EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us with:
None of you seem to know what you are talking about.
That's not a way to make friends. I very well know what I'm talking
about. None of the issues I've raised are negated by what you say, so
every single one still stands.
Flash also behaves consistently
SamFeltus schreef:
Here is a visual argument, I would love to see a list of AJAX and SVG
sites that display excellent graphics.
http://bacardimojito.com/main.swf
http://tokyoplastic.com/LF.swf
http://coolbreathpower.com/
http://www.peterjoel.com/flash8previews/candleFlame.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Flash also behaves consistently cross-browser, cross/platform -- and
features cannot be disabled by the user.
^^
And that's a good thing? Maybe for Macromedia, not for us. This smells
like astroturf.
Flash can load and play
Roel Schroeven wrote:
SamFeltus schreef:
Here is a visual argument, I would love to see a list of AJAX and SVG
sites that display excellent graphics.
[snip]
In my humble opinion, those sites are an argument _against_ the use of
Flash on websites. They may look pretty (I don't think they
Hmmm... It is interesting how something is terrible to one person, and
great to another, and vice versa.
I keep trying to understand why people like HTML/JS, I don't think I am
gonna understand. I guess for better or worse, Flash is a very
different mindset and approach to the web.
Oh well, I
IMHO, there's nothing more annoying that a website showing me a
progression bar, indicating how much time it will get to provide the
information I'm looking for...
And when the progression bar ends, I have to wait until the flashy
graphics and stupid presentation shows me the go to html site...
I
SamFeltus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I keep trying to understand why people like HTML/JS, I don't think I
am gonna understand.
It's fairly simple: HTML, CSS and JavaScript have all been
standardised independent of any single corporation, and are freely
implementable, resulting in competing free
As a final thought, seperate from the whole open source/search issue,
which has obvious merit, it does seem Flash has many excellent ideas as
a language/tool for creating/expressing non written ideas that are
lacking in the HTML world.
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bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SamFeltus wrote:
I am trying to figure out why so little web development in Python uses
Flash as a display technology. It seems most Python applications
choose HTML/CSS/JS as the display technology, yet Flash is a far more
powerful and elegant
Florian Diesch enlightened us with:
- Flash is a proprietary technology requiring a proprietary plugin.
There seem to be at least two free implementations:
But the website of OP together with the websites of many other people
are incompatible with those, since they require the latest and
I am trying to figure out why so little web development in Python uses
Flash as a display technology. It seems most Python applications
choose HTML/CSS/JS as the display technology, yet Flash is a far more
powerful and elegant display technology. On the other hand, HTML/JS
seems clunky and
Am Donnerstag 18 Mai 2006 08:51 schrieb SamFeltus:
I am trying to figure out why so little web development in Python uses
Flash as a display technology. It seems most Python applications
choose HTML/CSS/JS as the display technology, yet Flash is a far more
powerful and elegant display
Heiko Wundram enlightened us with:
And: the web is a platform to offer _information_. Not to offer
shiny graphics/sound [...]
Many would disagree...
Not me, but I know a lot of people that would.
Sybren
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capital
SamFeltus enlightened us with:
I am trying to figure out why so little web development in Python
uses Flash as a display technology.
There are a couple of reasons:
- Flash is bad for websites that are 100% done inside the Flash
movie. In such a case the back-button doesn't work
SamFeltus wrote:
I am trying to figure out why so little web development in Python uses
Flash as a display technology. It seems most Python applications
choose HTML/CSS/JS as the display technology, yet Flash is a far more
powerful and elegant display technology. On the other hand, HTML/JS
SamFeltus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It seems most Python applications choose HTML/CSS/JS as the display
technology,
These are open, freely-implementable, non-proprietary standards
controlled by standards bodies.
yet Flash is a far more powerful and elegant display technology.
This is a
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic possabilities,
all that HTML stuff is acceptable. Perhaps the HTML/JS group will even
get off their rear ends and bring some decent cross platform graphics
capabilities to
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic possabilities,
all that HTML stuff is acceptable. Perhaps the HTML/JS group will even
get off their rear ends and bring some decent cross platform graphics
capabilities to
SamFeltus wrote:
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic possabilities,
all that HTML stuff is acceptable.
1. artistic != animated.
2. the web has mostly been designed for text-based content.
Perhaps the
SamFeltus enlightened us with:
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic
possabilities, all that HTML stuff is acceptable.
You don't need Flash to be artistic.
Perhaps the HTML/JS group will even get off their
SamFeltus wrote:
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic possabilities,
all that HTML stuff is acceptable.
Personally, I always heave a big sigh of resignation when I'm on a site
that uses Flash, because I
SamFeltus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic possabilities,
all that HTML stuff is acceptable. Perhaps the HTML/JS group will even
get off their rear ends and bring some decent
Am Donnerstag 18 Mai 2006 16:09 schrieb SamFeltus:
I guess there isn't much to understand.
Sure, there's a lot to understand here. What I guess you can't come to terms
with is the fact that the web (hell, the whole Internet) isn't designed for
Windows personal computers only, but for a whole
SamFeltus wrote:
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic possabilities,
all that HTML stuff is acceptable. Perhaps the HTML/JS group will even
get off their rear ends and bring some decent cross platform
walterbyrd wrote:
I emailed them, they say they have mod_python.
Hi. I was just wondering if you been able to use mod_python at Dollar
Hosting. I'm having some trouble with it. The handlers don't seem to be
set up correctly and I've been in contact with the administrators, but
they aren't
John Salerno wrote:
walterbyrd wrote:
And they have mod_python.
You sure about that? I've learned to be skeptical, because a lot of
hosts don't even seem to understand the difference between supporting
Python (which in reality is just CGI for them) and mod_python. In
fact, I've even
On 9 Apr 2006 11:31:38 -0700, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.python-hosting.com/
I haven't used them myself, but recent research that I did made them
look like good candidates.
Python-Hosting.com is run by Remi Delon, author of CherryPy, so you'll
be getting your support (should
I emailed them, they say they have mod_python.
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I emailed them, they say they have mod_python.
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John Salerno wrote:
I was testing out http://www.devisland.net/ and it's pretty nice. They
installed the latest versions of Python, mod_python and mysqldb at my
request, and support was good. Only real problem is it's too expensive
for the space you get (about $5/month for 100MB), but you said
John Salerno wrote:
I was testing out http://www.devisland.net/ and it's pretty nice. They
installed the latest versions of Python, mod_python and mysqldb at my
request, and support was good. Only real problem is it's too expensive
for the space you get (about $5/month for 100MB), but you said
walterbyrd wrote:
And they have mod_python.
You sure about that? I've learned to be skeptical, because a lot of
hosts don't even seem to understand the difference between supporting
Python (which in reality is just CGI for them) and mod_python. In
fact, I've even been told that a host
I don't need that much web space. I don't need Zope/Plone.
But, I want a site that offers more than just CGI. And I would like
support for recent Python releases.
Price is an issue, that's one reason I've been reluctant to use python
for web-sites, hosting seems to be more expensive than with
http://www.westhost.com/
You get a virtual private server with them, so you can install whatever
you want. cheap too.
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http://www.python-hosting.com/
I haven't used them myself, but recent research that I did made them
look like good candidates.
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walterbyrd wrote:
I don't need that much web space. I don't need Zope/Plone.
But, I want a site that offers more than just CGI. And I would like
support for recent Python releases.
Price is an issue, that's one reason I've been reluctant to use python
for web-sites, hosting seems to be
That is dragging web 'controls' to the page in design mode, binding
controls to datasources, and writing code for events like page_load
or button1_click ?
I need to write a few small cross-platform, data-driven web apps
(and I really hate J2EE...)
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If what you want is a web IDE that supports visual development, no
standalone Python IDE has such support. But you can use Python in IDEs
that do support these features.
1.) ActiveGrid (http://www.activegrid.com/) - closest visual web IDE
where Python is a first class member.
2.) Use ASP.NET with
Yes, there is a clear winner : python zope = 3.950.000
Pierre
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think, no, trend, no clear winner (other than Rails;-)))
Python web frameworks, for the love of God, UNITE
Ron Stephens
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One last comment:
This will work, I think, if and only if the Consolidating framework,
the one to be used to absorb the other(s) best aspects, makes immediate
and up-front, highly visible concession(s) so as to clearly
communicate a win-win scenario.
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Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RMS has said precisely the opposite, in fact.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/11/msg00217.html
I guess you mean:
[RMS:]
As for the more general question, we think that a program that uses
Emacs facilities needs to be GPL-covered, but a program
[Paul]
The web app gets run by Karrigell like a CGI script
is run by Apache, like a Linux app is run by the Linux kernel.
Paul, you keep making comparisons between Python web frameworks and the
Linux kernel. Are you aware that there is a special note attached to the
Linux GPL[1] explaining
Richie Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul, you keep making comparisons between Python web frameworks and the
Linux kernel. Are you aware that there is a special note attached to the
Linux GPL[1] explaining that user-space code is not considered a derived
work of the Linux kernel? Without
On 20 Dec 2005 15:05:15 -0800,
Michael Tobis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python people don't really think that way. As a community we really
seem to inherit the open source dysfunction of trying harder to impress
each other than to reach out to the rest of the world. The problem is
Yes;
On 22/12/05, A.M. Kuchling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 20 Dec 2005 15:05:15 -0800,
Michael Tobis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python people don't really think that way. As a community we really
seem to inherit the open source dysfunction of trying harder to impress
each other than to
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:05:08 +,
Ed Singleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes; I've long worried about this, but have no idea how to fix the
problem. Python users largely talk to other Python users, not to the
world at large.
A good start would be for there to be a way for newbies
On 22/12/05, A.M. Kuchling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:05:08 +,
Ed Singleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes; I've long worried about this, but have no idea how to fix the
problem. Python users largely talk to other Python users, not to the
world at large.
A.M. Kuchling wrote:
On 20 Dec 2005 15:05:15 -0800,
Michael Tobis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python people don't really think that way. As a community we really
seem to inherit the open source dysfunction of trying harder to impress
each other than to reach out to the rest of the world.
On 21 Dec 2005 13:53:55 -0800, Pierre Quentel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to add some more confusion to the discussion, here is what I've
found about other web frameworks :
CherryPy : BSD
Django : BSD
Jonpy : Python licence
Quixote : CNRI
Skunkweb : GPL or BSD
Snakelets : MIT
Subway : ? +
Kent Johnson wrote:
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote:
The only problem with KARRIGELL, I guess, is that its creator is very
humble and doesn't like to advertise his creature. He is not very fond
of marketing ...
From my point of view the biggest problem with Karrigell is that it is
released
Jeff Rush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Your only solution would be a proprietary license that states you
purchased this program and don't have the right to pass it on to
others, similar to ActiveState or somesuch.
It sounds like that's what Kent wants to do with the apps that he's
building.
Paul Rubin wrote:
Jeff Rush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Your only solution would be a proprietary license that states you
purchased this program and don't have the right to pass it on to
others, similar to ActiveState or somesuch.
It sounds like that's what Kent wants to do with the apps that
Paul Rubin wrote:
Hmmm. I seem to remember RMS saying that the GPL didn't extend to
Emacs Lisp functions that the user writes, even though those call
various built-in Emacs functions, as long as they use the documented
API. Those certainly run in the same address space as Emacs. This is
Kent Johnson wrote:
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote:
I don't think Pierre (Karrigell's creator) is awared of licenses and
legal issues.
Perhaps you can tell us what's the problem with GPL and, if possible,
propose an alternative...
OK I'll try. First let me say I have no interest in a licensing
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However the work I do is commercial and proprietary and I doubt
I could get approval to release it under GPL.
I see the GPL is a problem in this environment, and you are clearly
aware of the issues it raises. Do be aware, though, that not all GPL
Hello all,
I am Karrigell's author. I have chosen the GPL licence almost at random
(I saw that the Python licence was GPL-compatible), so I don't mind
switching to another Open Source licence if the GPL is liable to cause
problems. Which one would you advice : BSD ? Python licence ? another ?
Pierre Quentel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am Karrigell's author. I have chosen the GPL licence almost at random
(I saw that the Python licence was GPL-compatible), so I don't mind
switching to another Open Source licence if the GPL is liable to cause
problems. Which one would you advice : BSD
Paul Rubin wrote:
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However the work I do is commercial and proprietary and I doubt
I could get approval to release it under GPL.
I see the GPL is a problem in this environment, and you are clearly
aware of the issues it raises. Do be aware, though, that
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Indeed. But most software authors aren't lawyers and aren't likely to
trust their own judgment about these matters unless the situation is
pretty unambiguous. I suspect this may be evidence that Microsoft's
viral propaganda has had some effect.
Hmm,
I definitely don't want to invent another licence, there are enough of
them already !
Pierre
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Paul Rubin wrote:
Pierre Quentel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am Karrigell's author. I have chosen the GPL licence almost at random
(I saw that the Python licence was GPL-compatible), so I don't mind
switching to another Open Source licence if the GPL is liable to cause
problems. Which one
Ben Sizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unfortunately, that doesn't really satisfy the GPL's concerns. The work
arguably contains or is derived from Karrigell,
I don't see that. The web app gets run by Karrigell like a CGI script
is run by Apache, like a Linux app is run by the Linux kernel. The
[Pierre]
I am Karrigell's author. I have chosen the GPL licence almost at random
(I saw that the Python licence was GPL-compatible), so I don't mind
switching to another Open Source licence if the GPL is liable to cause
problems. Which one would you advice : BSD ? Python licence ? another ?
Richie Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A good solution would be multiple-licensing. You state that the
code is (for example) triple-licensed under the GPL, LGPL and BSD
licenses. The user of your code decides which license to obey.
It's no more work for you, and you can please almost
Steve Holden wrote:
Paul Rubin wrote:
I'm trying to avoid flame wars too, but my take on this is that Kent's
reading is a little too restrictive and the GPL isn't really a problem
in this situation unless he's actually modifying Karrigell itself,
rather than writing applications that run
Pierre Quentel ha scritto:
Hello all,
I am Karrigell's author. I have chosen the GPL licence almost at random
(I saw that the Python licence was GPL-compatible), so I don't mind
switching to another Open Source licence if the GPL is liable to cause
problems. Which one would you advice : BSD
Kent Johnson wrote:
OK I'll try. First let me say I have no interest in a licensing flame war,
there are valid
reasons why an author might prefer one license over another and certainly
there are good
reasons to choose GPL. However the work I do is commercial and proprietary
and I
BSD license is good. It requires that your copyright notice be included
with any derivative works - but otherwise lets users create and
distribute derivatives how they see fit. The version I use is at
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/license.shtml (which links to the
version at the OSI).
The
Paul Rubin wrote:
Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You've lost me here. The server certainly would contain Karrigell
code, it wouldn't function without it. I don't understand the analogy
to GCC, the web site is not something that is compiled with
Karrigell. Karrigell is a library or
Paul Rubin wrote:
Ben Sizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unfortunately, that doesn't really satisfy the GPL's concerns. The work
arguably contains or is derived from Karrigell,
I don't see that. The web app gets run by Karrigell like a CGI script
is run by Apache, like a Linux app is run by
Richie Hindle wrote:
You will hear valid arguments for GPL, LGPL, BSD and other licenses (though
the Python license is unsuitable for anything other than Python - see
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonSoftwareFoundationLicenseFaq)
A good solution would be multiple-licensing. You state that
In Karrigell the scripts are executed in a namespace prepared by the
framework, with HTTP environment, form data, the functions and
exceptions for authentication, session management, redirection etc.
I suppose that this falls into the first category above, modules
(that) are designed to run linked
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Kent [Karrigell is GPL'ed] Unfortunately this makes it impossible for
Kent me to consider using Karrigell in my work. I recently needed a
Kent stand-alone web server for a small in-house project that
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Ben Unfortunately, that doesn't really satisfy the GPL's concerns.
Ben The work arguably contains or is derived from Karrigell, which
Ben is explicitly covered in section 2b of the GPL. If you start
Ben
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Kent [Karrigell is GPL'ed] Unfortunately this makes it impossible for
Kent me to consider using Karrigell in my work. I recently needed a
Kent stand-alone web server
Martin Christensen wrote:
Kent == Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kent [Karrigell is GPL'ed] Unfortunately this makes it impossible for
Kent me to consider using Karrigell in my work. I recently needed a
Kent stand-alone web server for a small in-house project that might
Kent
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richie Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A good solution would be multiple-licensing. You state that the
code is (for example) triple-licensed under the GPL, LGPL and BSD
licenses. The user of your code decides which license to obey.
It's no
Martin Christensen wrote:
Ben == Ben Sizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben Unfortunately, that doesn't really satisfy the GPL's concerns.
Ben The work arguably contains or is derived from Karrigell, which
Ben is explicitly covered in section 2b of the GPL. If you start
Ben excluding key
Pierre Quentel wrote:
I am Karrigell's author. I have chosen the GPL licence almost at random
(I saw that the Python licence was GPL-compatible), so I don't mind
switching to another Open Source licence if the GPL is liable to cause
problems. Which one would you advice : BSD ? Python licence
Alex Martelli wrote:
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richie Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A good solution would be multiple-licensing. You state that the
code is (for example) triple-licensed under the GPL, LGPL and BSD
licenses. The user of your code decides which license to
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Kent == Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kent In the text you quoted I said, a small in-house project that
Kent might possibly be distributed to business partners or become a
Kent product some day. Sounds like distribution to me.
My bad. I
(Responding to several posts)
Ben Sizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't see that. The web app gets run by Karrigell like a CGI script
is run by Apache, like a Linux app is run by the Linux kernel.
The web app uses parts of Karrigell though - things like the QUERY
variable or or Session
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