Re: python developer

2022-10-03 Thread Jan van den Broek
2022-10-01, orzodk schrieb: > Jan van den Broek writes: > >> 2022-10-01, Mike Dewhirst schrieb: >> >>>So the answer to your question is signed email is easy and if it becomes >>>popular it has potential to defeat hackers. >> >> Yes, but I'm reading this as a usenet-message (comp.lang.python), n

Re: python developer

2022-10-03 Thread orzodk
Jan van den Broek writes: > 2022-10-01, Mike Dewhirst schrieb: > >>So the answer to your question is signed email is easy and if it becomes >>popular it has potential to defeat hackers. > > Yes, but I'm reading this as a usenet-message (comp.lang.python), not as > a mail. You are reading a mi

Re: python developer

2022-10-01 Thread Mike Dewhirst
Ah well! I did not think that far ahead.My apologies for burdening your digest. Should I abandon my quest?M--(Unsigned mail from my phone) Original message From: Jan van den Broek Date: 2/10/22 06:58 (GMT+10:00) To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: python developer 2022

Re: python developer

2022-10-01 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2022-10-01 13:11:41 -, Jan van den Broek wrote: > 2022-10-01, Mike Dewhirst schrieb: > >So the answer to your question is signed email is easy and if it becomes > >popular it has potential to defeat hackers. > > Yes, but I'm reading this as a usenet-message (comp.lang.python), not as > a

Re: python developer

2022-10-01 Thread rbowman
On 9/30/22 22:07, Mike Dewhirst wrote: Most email activists demand end-to-end encryption and obviously signing email is part of that. However, my view is that email privacy, while very important, is an oxymoron. If you need encrypted messages you would never use email. You would meet under a wa

Re: python developer

2022-10-01 Thread Jan van den Broek
2022-10-01, Mike Dewhirst schrieb: >So the answer to your question is signed email is easy and if it becomes >popular it has potential to defeat hackers. Yes, but I'm reading this as a usenet-message (comp.lang.python), not as a mail. -- Jan v/d Broek balgl...@dds.nl -- https://mail.python.o

Re: python developer

2022-09-30 Thread Mike Dewhirst
On 30/09/2022 3:31 pm, Jan van den Broek wrote: 2022-09-29, Mike Dewhirst schrieb: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) Why? Good question. Further to Peter's explanation, email is the primary conduit for hackers. At this point in time human education and training is

Re: python developer

2022-09-30 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2022-09-30 05:31:15 -, Jan van den Broek wrote: > 2022-09-29, Mike Dewhirst schrieb: > > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) > > Why? Why not? Signing an email protects against impersonation and tampering. While you may not be assured that my name is indeed "Peter J

Re: python developer

2022-09-30 Thread Jan van den Broek
2022-09-29, Mike Dewhirst schrieb: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) Why? [Schnipp] -- Jan v/d Broek balgl...@dds.nl -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python developer

2022-09-29 Thread Mike Dewhirst
On 30/09/2022 5:09 am, Walid AlMasri wrote: Hi all, I has been using python in scientific computing for many years I want to become a python developer so what is a good reference to follow ? A developer makes products whereas a scientist understands complexities. I would recommend reading ab

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 14:07:37 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 3/31/2018 11:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: > >> Do you really think people in Somalia can afford theses things like in >> the US? > > No, many cannot afford $600 Caddilac-style phones to take 10 megapixel > pictures and watch UTube vi

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:58:51 -0400, Etienne Robillard wrote: > Hi, > > I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is > willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does > that mean we are stopping to support standard computers and laptops as > well? That se

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Rick Johnson
Grant Edwards wrote: > Etienne Robillard wrote: > > > Do you understand that a modern mobile device typically > > require a Internet subscription and an additional > > subscription for the smart phone? > > Huh? What is "an internet subscription"? Why would you > need two of them if all you have

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/31/2018 11:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: Do you really think people in Somalia can afford theses things like in the US? No, many cannot afford $600 Caddilac-style phones to take 10 megapixel pictures and watch UTube videos. Instead they buy $100 VWBug-style phones that let them get c

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-03-31, Etienne Robillard wrote: > Are you trolling? Do you understand that a modern mobile device > typically require a Internet subscription and an additional subscription > for the smart phone? Huh? What is "an internet subscription"? Why would you need two of them if all you have

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Michael Torrie
On Mar 31, 2018 09:58, "Etienne Robillard" wrote: Le 2018-03-31 à 11:40, Michael Torrie a écrit : > On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: > >> I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is >> willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does >>

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
På Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:58:39 -0400 Etienne Robillard skrev: > Are you trolling? Do you understand that a modern mobile device > typically require a Internet subscription and an additional subscription > for the smart phone? I think the question is why you equate python3 with the need for inte

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread bartc
On 31/03/2018 16:58, Etienne Robillard wrote: Le 2018-03-31 à 11:40, Michael Torrie a écrit : On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does   that mean we

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: > > > Le 2018-03-31 à 11:40, Michael Torrie a écrit : >> >> On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: >>> >>> I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is >>> willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 s

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Etienne Robillard
Le 2018-03-31 à 11:40, Michael Torrie a écrit : On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does that mean we are stopping to support standard computers and

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Michael Torrie
On 03/31/2018 08:58 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: > I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is > willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does > that mean we are stopping to support standard computers and laptops > as well? I've tried several times bu

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Etienne Robillard
Hi, I was just wondering, could the fact that the Python community is willing to discontinue using and developing Python 2 softwares, does that mean we are stopping to support standard computers and laptops as well? Furthermore, does it bother you to develop code primarly oriented towards mo

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 31 March 2018 10:16:13 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Rick Johnson > > wrote: > > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 8:59:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Wanna provide some competing information showing that other > >> languages are more used? > > > > Chris, her

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 8:59:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Wanna provide some competing information showing that other >> languages are more used? > > Chris, here is how debate works: > > PersonA asserts X. > > PersonB dem

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > Under no circumstance is PersonB required to prove PersonA'a > assertions. The onerous is on PersonA. Assertion: Rick doesn't know what "onerous" means. Under no circumstance is Rick required to prove me right. But he obliged anyway. Very k

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 8:59:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: [...] > You can pooh-pooh any statistic. Yeah, except the ones supported by actual _facts_. > So far, though, you have provided NO statistics of your > own, just your own gut feeling. Uh huh. And what do you call drawing naiv

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:39:48 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Paul Rubin : >> All the scripts that say #!/usr/bin/python at the top will still use >> python2. > > Which is how it should be till the end of times. Don't be silly -- they should use Python 1, of course, as nature intended. In 20 year

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:32:31 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Paul Rubin : > >> Marko Rauhamaa writes: >>> Yes, RHEL, CentOS and OracleLinux still only support Python2. It may >>> be another year before Python3 becomes available on them. >> >> Debian's default Python is also Python2. I don't say i

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Paul Rubin : > All the scripts that say #!/usr/bin/python at the top will still use > python2. Which is how it should be till the end of times. Unfortunately, ArchLinux decided otherwise, which has caused quite a bit of grief in the office, where a coworker uses it. We thought we could get aroun

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-31 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Paul Rubin : > Marko Rauhamaa writes: >> Yes, RHEL, CentOS and OracleLinux still only support Python2. It may >> be another year before Python3 becomes available on them. > > Debian's default Python is also Python2. I don't say it *only* > supports python2 since you can optionally install python3

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:51:22 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Ian Kelly > wrote: >> You really think that 90% of the active users are trolls? And yet the >> subreddit remains usable despite that allegedly terrible >> signal-to-noise ratio. > > I'm now laughing at the im

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> You really think that 90% of the active users are trolls? And yet the >> subreddit remains usable despite that allegedly terrible >> signal-to-noise ratio. > > I'm now laughing at the image of

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > You really think that 90% of the active users are trolls? And yet the > subreddit remains usable despite that allegedly terrible > signal-to-noise ratio. I'm now laughing at the image of a large community of trolls sitting around trolling each o

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:44:40 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > [...] >> Reddit's /ruby subreddit: 40,571 subscribers. >> >> Reddit's /python subreddit: 230,858 subscribers. > > Those numbers mean nothing unless you can prove all two-

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:44:40 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > [...] >> Reddit's /ruby subreddit: 40,571 subscribers. >> >> Reddit's /python subreddit: 230,858 subscribers. > > Those numbers mean nothing unless you can prove all two-

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:44:40 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote: [...] > Reddit's /ruby subreddit: 40,571 subscribers. > > Reddit's /python subreddit: 230,858 subscribers. Those numbers mean nothing unless you can prove all two- hundred-thirty-odd thousand of them to be active, non- tolling,

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 16:18:57 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote: > My suspicion is that not only are the overall numbers of Python > programmers on the decline Python's popularity went up from #5 to #4 between March 2017 and 2018 on TIOBE: https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ But of course Rick knows this

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:42:31 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Paul Rubin : >> Terry Reedy writes: >>> 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x >>> This is a bigger jump than I anticipated. >> >> It's interesting and surprising. I still have not encountered anyone >> using Python 3 in real life. The main Linux distros

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:45:10 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > https://www.jetbrains.com/research/python-developers-survey-2017/ “Which > version of Python do you use the most?” > 2014 80% 2.x, 20% 3.x > 2016 60% 2.x, 40% 3.x > 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x > > This is a bigger jump than I anticipated. Thank

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 10:45:35 AM UTC-5, Terry Reedy wrote: > https://www.jetbrains.com/research/python-developers-survey-2017/ > “Which version of Python do you use the most?” > 2014 80% 2.x, 20% 3.x > 2016 60% 2.x, 40% 3.x > 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x > > This is a bigger jump than I anticipat

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Paul Rubin : > Terry Reedy writes: >> 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x >> This is a bigger jump than I anticipated. > > It's interesting and surprising. I still have not encountered anyone > using Python 3 in real life. The main Linux distros still use Python 2 > by default, afaik. I figured Python 3 adoptio

Re: Python Developer Survey: Python 3 usage overtakes Python 2 usage

2018-03-30 Thread Paul Moore
On 30 March 2018 at 16:45, Terry Reedy wrote: > https://www.jetbrains.com/research/python-developers-survey-2017/ > “Which version of Python do you use the most?” > 2014 80% 2.x, 20% 3.x > 2016 60% 2.x, 40% 3.x > 2017 25% 2.x, 75% 3.x > > This is a bigger jump than I anticipated. Nice! -- https:

Re: Python Developer- [LOCATION DELETED]

2015-08-21 Thread Rob Gaddi
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:26:36 -0700, appthought1 wrote: > Hi, > Hope you are doing well !!! > My name is Siva and I'm a recruiter at TheAppliedthought , a global > staffing and IT consulting company. Siva seems to have no professional regrets about spamming people on a worldwide professional mail

Re: Python Developer- Houston, TX

2015-08-10 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 8/10/2015 2:24 PM, appthoug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hope you are doing well !!! My name is Siva and I'm a recruiter at TheAppliedthought , a global staffing and IT consulting company. You really shouldn't post job offerings on this list. Please use the Python Job Board at https://www.pyth

Re: Python Developer- Houston, TX

2015-08-10 Thread Larry Martell
Can this be done remotely or only on-site? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > Hi, > Hope you are doing well !!! > My name is Siva and I'm a recruiter at TheAppliedthought , a global staffing > and IT consulting company. > Please find the below job description which may suits any of your

Re: Python developer salary survey - results

2014-03-24 Thread Wesley
在 2014年3月25日星期二UTC+8上午4时57分49秒,victo...@vtenterprise.com写道: > PyStreet's February salary survey attracted respondents from 37 countries. > > > > Median annual salary in the U.S.: $95,000 > > Median annual salary worldwide: $50,000 > > > > Complete study: http://bit.ly/1dgCw3p I am below th

Re: Python Developer - HFT Trading firm - Chicago, IL

2010-08-23 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <8dbb89fi3...@mid.individual.net>, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> Someone who doesn’t understand how positive feedback can lead to >> instabilities in a dynamical system. > > Let's hope the person they hire makes it his first task > to introduce a big dollop of

Re: Python Developer - HFT Trading firm - Chicago, IL

2010-08-21 Thread Gregory Ewing
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: Someone who doesn’t understand how positive feedback can lead to instabilities in a dynamical system. Let's hope the person they hire makes it his first task to introduce a big dollop of negative feedback into the system! -- Greg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: Python Developer - HFT Trading firm - Chicago, IL

2010-08-21 Thread Scott MacDonald
Possibly relevant: http://www.nanex.net/FlashCrash/FlashCrashAnalysis_NBBO.html On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message > , > Raymond > Hettinger wrote: > > > On Aug 21, 2:30 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > > > wrote: > > > >> Wasn’t HFT an exacerbating factor in jus

Re: Python Developer - HFT Trading firm - Chicago, IL

2010-08-21 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message , Raymond Hettinger wrote: > On Aug 21, 2:30 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > wrote: > >> Wasn’t HFT an exacerbating factor in just about every major stockmarket >> downturn since, oh, 1987? > > IMO, it was a mitigating factor. > HFT firms provide liquidity and help price discovery. > Inves

Re: Python Developer - HFT Trading firm - Chicago, IL

2010-08-21 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 8/21/2010 10:32 AM Raymond Hettinger said... On Aug 21, 2:30 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: Wasn’t HFT an exacerbating factor in just about every major stockmarket downturn since, oh, 1987? IMO, it was a mitigating factor. HFT firms provide liquidity and help price discovery. Investor sent

Re: Python Developer - HFT Trading firm - Chicago, IL

2010-08-21 Thread Raymond Hettinger
On Aug 21, 2:30 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Wasn’t HFT an exacerbating factor in just about every major stockmarket > downturn since, oh, 1987? IMO, it was a mitigating factor. HFT firms provide liquidity and help price discovery. Investor sentiment is what drives rallys and crashes. Raymo

Re: Python Developer - HFT Trading firm - Chicago, IL

2010-08-21 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message , Rich Moss wrote: > Python developer needed for math/trading applications and research at > leading HFT firm. Wasn’t HFT an exacerbating factor in just about every major stockmarket downturn since, oh, 1987? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Developer - HFT Trading firm - Chicago, IL

2010-08-18 Thread Matteo Landi
Hi Rich, I think it's better for you to post the message here ( http://www.python.org/community/jobs/ ). Regards, On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Rich Moss wrote: > > Python developer needed for math/trading applications and research at > leading HFT firm. The person we are searching for will h

Re: Python Developer positions (2) in Campbell, CA

2006-01-20 Thread Steve Holden
Martha: Please see http://www.python.org/Jobs.html http://www.python.org/Jobs-howto.html to find out about the Python Jobs Board, which may be (even) more useful than posting (or looking, for job seekers) on the Python list. regards Steve Marsha Hoyt wrote: > Hi Python fans, > > >