Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list (was: evaluation question)

2023-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-01-31, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 28/01/2023 21:36, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> Now -- last time I checked the gmane server says posting is prohibited. >> I used to use gmane as it retrieved directly from the mailing list > > I still use gmane but its no posting thing is a pain because

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list (was: evaluation question)

2023-01-31 Thread Alan Gauld
On 28/01/2023 21:36, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Now -- last time I checked the gmane server says posting is prohibited. > I used to use gmane as it retrieved directly from the mailing list I still use gmane but its no posting thing is a pain because responding (or posting new stuff) is a n

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-01-31, Anssi Saari wrote: > Grant Edwards writes: > >> No. FWIW, it's the mailing list that's blocking them, not Gmane. >> >> That's why I wrote this: >> >> https://github.com/GrantEdwards/hybrid-inews >> >> It's an inews work-alike that submits most posts via gmanes NNTP >> server, b

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-31 Thread Anssi Saari
Grant Edwards writes: > No. FWIW, it's the mailing list that's blocking them, not Gmane. > > That's why I wrote this: > > https://github.com/GrantEdwards/hybrid-inews > > It's an inews work-alike that submits most posts via gmanes NNTP > server, but will deal with particular groups > (e.g. gm

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-01-28, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:07:44 +, Chris Green declaimed the > following: > > >>As far as I am aware the mirroring of the Python mailing list on >>comp.lan.python works perfectly. I love gmane! :-) > > Is gmane's gmane.comp.python.general allowing

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-01-28, Chris Green wrote: > As far as I am aware the mirroring of the Python mailing list on > comp.lan.python works perfectly. I love gmane! :-) If gmane stopped working, I'd have to retire and give up on computers. I supposed I might be able to hammer procmail and mutt into something

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-29 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
it isn't, in >> that I reply to a post with an answer and then several other people >> reply significantly later with the same answer, as if my one had never >> existed... > > That's just because people don't read before they post. > > Happens in any usen

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-29 Thread Ben Bacarisse
;>> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> >>>> mut...@dastardlyhq.com writes: >> >>>> >> >>>> > Hi >> >>>> >> >>>> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is >>

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-29 Thread Igor Berger
gt;>>> mut...@dastardlyhq.com writes: > >>>> > >>>> > Hi > >>>> > >>>> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is > >>>> essentially dead as a Usenet group. It exist

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-29 Thread Peter J. Holzer
swer and then several other people > reply significantly later with the same answer, as if my one had never > existed... That's just because people don't read before they post. Happens in any usenet group or mailing list (and probably in web forums, too; but I don't really use thos

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-28 Thread Ben Bacarisse
Jon Ribbens writes: > On 2023-01-29, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> "Peter J. Holzer" writes: >> >>> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>>> mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes: >>>> >>>> > Hi >>&

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-28 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-01-29, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > "Peter J. Holzer" writes: > >> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>> mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes: >>> >>> > Hi >>> >>> It looks like you posted this question via Us

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-28 Thread Ben Bacarisse
"Peter J. Holzer" writes: > On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes: >> >> > Hi >> >> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is >> essentially dead as a Usenet group

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 at 12:07, Chris Green wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > Jon Ribbens wrote: > > > On 2023-01-28, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > > > > On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > > > >> It looks like you poste

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-28 Thread Dennis Lee Bieber
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:07:44 +, Chris Green declaimed the following: >As far as I am aware the mirroring of the Python mailing list on >comp.lan.python works perfectly. I love gmane! :-) Is gmane's gmane.comp.python.general allowing posts to go through again? I had to revert to com

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-28 Thread Chris Green
Chris Green wrote: > Jon Ribbens wrote: > > On 2023-01-28, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > > > On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > > >> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is > > >> essentially dead as a Usenet

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list

2023-01-28 Thread Chris Green
Jon Ribbens wrote: > On 2023-01-28, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > > On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > >> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is > >> essentially dead as a Usenet group. It exists, and gets NNTP versio

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list (was: evaluation question)

2023-01-28 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-01-28, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is >> essentially dead as a Usenet group. It exists, and gets NNTP versions >> of mail sent to the mailing lis

Re: Usenet vs. Mailing-list (was: evaluation question)

2023-01-28 Thread Dennis Lee Bieber
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:30:59 +0100, "Peter J. Holzer" declaimed the following: >On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes: >> >> > Hi >> >> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.p

Usenet vs. Mailing-list (was: evaluation question)

2023-01-28 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes: > > > Hi > > It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is > essentially dead as a Usenet group. It exists, and gets NNTP versions > of mail sent to the m

Re: self - hosted usenet poster py script - pretty cool, 20 lines only

2020-01-14 Thread 황병희
Chris Angelico writes: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:31 PM aa wrote: >> X-User-Signature: python spam now comes to comp lang py as well >> > > Can you post to a test newsgroup instead? Please? By the way, he is trying new experimental thing. Actually i like his trying and NNTP. Sincerely, NNTP f

Re: self - hosted usenet poster py script - pretty cool, 20 lines only

2020-01-14 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:31 PM aa wrote: > X-User-Signature: python spam now comes to comp lang py as well > Can you post to a test newsgroup instead? Please? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

self - hosted usenet poster py script - pretty cool, 20 lines only

2020-01-14 Thread aa
esp, descs = s.descriptions('alt.*') #print ( len(descs)) #print ( descs.popitem() ) # 'alt..fred-hall-is-a-piece-of-shit', 'Fred Hall is a piece of shit' s.quit() ''' the file usenet_p

self - hosted usenet poster py script - pretty cool, 20 lines only

2020-01-14 Thread aa
esp, descs = s.descriptions('alt.*') #print ( len(descs)) #print ( descs.popitem() ) # 'alt..fred-hall-is-a-piece-of-shit', 'Fred Hall is a piece of shit' s.quit() ''' the file usenet_p

self - hosted usenet poster py script - pretty cool, 20 lines only

2020-01-14 Thread aa
esp, descs = s.descriptions('alt.*') #print ( len(descs)) #print ( descs.popitem() ) # 'alt..fred-hall-is-a-piece-of-shit', 'Fred Hall is a piece of shit' s.quit() ''' the file usenet_p

Re: self - hosted usenet poster with python

2020-01-14 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:01 PM aa wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

self - hosted usenet poster with python

2020-01-14 Thread aa
esp, descs = s.descriptions('alt.*') #print ( len(descs)) #print ( descs.popitem() ) # 'alt..fred-hall-is-a-piece-of-shit', 'Fred Hall is a piece of shit' s.quit() ''' the file usenet_p

Re: fsxNet Usenet gateway problem again

2018-09-08 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2018-09-06 18:03:19 +0200, Thomas Jollans wrote: > I love that the reposted messages come with a header > > Path: uni-berlin.de!<...>!.POSTED.agency.bbs.nz!not-for-mail >^ This is normal for Usenet Messages. The

Re: fsxNet Usenet gateway problem again

2018-09-06 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 2018-09-06 15:50, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 09/05/2018 02:30 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> I don't think this was spamming the list with the same question; a >> glitch somewhere in a netnews server appears to be re-posting some old >> posts. > > I wonder why this bbs gateway in New Zealand keep

fsxNet Usenet gateway problem again

2018-09-06 Thread Michael Torrie
On 09/05/2018 02:30 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > I don't think this was spamming the list with the same question; a > glitch somewhere in a netnews server appears to be re-posting some old > posts. I wonder why this bbs gateway in New Zealand keeps doing this. Seems like someone contacts the postm

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
ering on my inbox anyway to move family messages to their own folder, etc. Hate to say it, but GMail actually makes it pretty fast and easy to set up the rule. Mostly one-click automatic "filter messages like this one." I agree NNTP is designed for all of this. I used to spend a lot of tim

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 05/24/2018 07:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 24 May 2018 05:44:26 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> I agree web forums really suck for any kind of multi-user conversation. > > Oh good. Because the Python core-devs are talking about moving to > Github's web interface instead of email.

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 05/24/2018 07:10 AM, Chris Green wrote: > A *thread* yes, but not a whole list. I.e. if you read this using > mail/IMAP you can mark a thread read but you can't mark *all* Python > list messages read in one go can you? With tin/Usenet I look at > the list of new subje

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Chris Green
ad but you can't mark *all* Python > > list messages read in one go can you? With tin/Usenet I look at the > > list of new subjects in the Python group, I may investigate a couple > > of threads, then I just hit 'C' and all of the Python group is marked > > a

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread José María Mateos
sages read in one go can you? With tin/Usenet I look at the > list of new subjects in the Python group, I may investigate a couple > of threads, then I just hit 'C' and all of the Python group is marked > as read. Yes, you can, at least with mutt. I have a handy alias (ESC +

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-24, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 05/23/2018 12:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> But IMO email pales in comparison to NNTP when there are more than a >> few messages per day per group. > > This is not my experience at all. I used to use Usenet back in the day, >

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Chris Green
> > It's automatically archived and one can search back through > > threads for old postings, this is by design not an add on. > > point conceded, although I've never used this feature when I was on Usenet. > > > Kill files and other similar filtering ab

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 24 May 2018 05:44:26 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote: > I agree web forums really suck for any kind of multi-user conversation. Oh good. Because the Python core-devs are talking about moving to Github's web interface instead of email. Because Github is the future :-) https://circleci.com/bl

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
threads for old postings, this is by design not an add on. point conceded, although I've never used this feature when I was on Usenet. > Kill files and other similar filtering abilities are part of the > user interface true, but I can get the same job done with thunderbird

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
P when there are more than a > few messages per day per group. This is not my experience at all. I used to use Usenet back in the day, but for nearly the last two decades I've just used mailing lists, procmail or other kinds of server-side filtering (including GMail's filters) and

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Gregory Ewing
Ned Batchelder wrote: On 5/23/18 12:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$, Google, yahoo yadda yadda into thinking that webmail and forums are the only game in town? Please avoid accusing others of being brain damaged, even if it was meant in a humorous context. :( I

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
a > "fact"? Or will you dismiss that as just another "opinion"? > > You asked: > > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not > > used by everybody? > I did not ask that, somebody's quoting is miss adjusted. > And the fac

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Alan Bawden
"? You asked: > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by > everybody? And the fact is that in many people's opinions, "the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much better!" That _is_ the answer to your question. I'm

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Chris Green
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 23 May 2018 12:45:57 Chris Green wrote: > > > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not > > > used by everybody? > > > > Because the Usenet/NNTP int

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 23 May 2018 12:45:57 Chris Green wrote: > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not > > used by everybody? > > Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much > better!

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-23, Chris Green wrote: > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: >> can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by >> everybody? > > Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much > better! :-) Yes. NNTP and NNTP cl

Re: Usenet Gateway (was: Spam levels.)

2018-05-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-23, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by > everybody? 1) I perfer the user-interface offered by my NNTP client (slrn). 2) I don't want to archive many years worth of dozens of mailing lists (I let gmane do t

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/23/18 12:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2018 11:20:34 Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by everybody? Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$, Google

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Chris Green
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by > everybody? > Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much better! :-) -- Chris Green · -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Usenet Gateway (was: Spam levels.)

2018-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 23 May 2018 11:20:34 Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used > by everybody? > > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer > https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$, Google, yahoo yadda yadda into thinking

Re: Usenet Gateway (was: Spam levels.)

2018-05-23 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by everybody? Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ > > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Usenet Gateway (was: Spam levels.)

2018-05-23 Thread Peter J. Holzer
d (like all other messages from the mailinglist) injected into usenet through the gateway at uni-berlin.de. It seems that this gateway changes all message-ids to Although the message ids look like they are generated by the mailing list software (they contain "mailman" and "python

Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane?

2016-04-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-04-11, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-04-11, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I just finished checking a very recent thread containing 67 articles > by pointing slrn at news.panix.com for the Usenet version and at > news.gmane.com for the mailing-list version. [...] > On the

Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane?

2016-04-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-04-11, Grant Edwards wrote: I just finished checking a very recent thread containing 67 articles by pointing slrn at news.panix.com for the Usenet version and at news.gmane.com for the mailing-list version. Both servers appeared to show the same set of 67 articles (that alone is pretty

Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane?

2016-04-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-04-11, Random832 wrote: > I've already outlined under what circumstances threading is likely > to be broken (before the recent changes): > >| For users reading by the mailing list, Usenet users' replies to >| Mailing List users will be broken (but their replies

Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane?

2016-04-11 Thread Random832
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016, at 10:24, Grant Edwards wrote: > I've been reading c.l.p on Usenet for many, many years. There has > always been a certain abount of thread breakage (presumably due to > broken e-mail clients and/or the list<->usenet gateway), but it seems > to h

Is threading better on Usenet or gmane?

2016-04-11 Thread Grant Edwards
I've been reading c.l.p on Usenet for many, many years. There has always been a certain abount of thread breakage (presumably due to broken e-mail clients and/or the list<->usenet gateway), but it seems to have gotten worse lately. Has anybody noticed whether the threading is less br

Re: Moderation and Usenet

2016-04-10 Thread Tim Golden
On 11/04/2016 04:32, Mario R. Osorio wrote: hmmm...He made an extremely kind comment a couple of days ago. It called my attention because is the first one ever (coming from) ... Now I'm thinking he might have just been sarcastic. Give him the benefit of the doubt. And BTW I myself have given

Re: Moderation and Usenet

2016-04-10 Thread Mario R. Osorio
On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 2:01:00 PM UTC-4, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 4/10/2016 1:05 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > > > If you see offensive posts from him on the Usenet side please do not > > respond. > > Just a reminder for those who, like me, prefer a newsgroup inte

Re: Moderation and Usenet

2016-04-10 Thread Mario R. Osorio
hmmm...He made an extremely kind comment a couple of days ago. It called my attention because is the first one ever (coming from) ... Now I'm thinking he might have just been sarcastic. And BTW I myself have given a couple of sour responses every now and then. I guess we all have our bad days o

Re: Moderation and Usenet

2016-04-10 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/10/2016 1:05 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: If you see offensive posts from him on the Usenet side please do not respond. Just a reminder for those who, like me, prefer a newsgroup interface for python-list: gmane.comp.python.general at news.gmane.org mirrors the moderated output of python

Moderation and Usenet

2016-04-10 Thread Ethan Furman
Mark Lawrence is currently being moderated. If you see offensive posts from him on the Usenet side please do not respond. Thank you. -- ~Ethan~ Python List Owners -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Usenet Message-ID (was Re: How to waste computer memory?)

2016-03-19 Thread Random832
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016, at 15:46, Tim Golden wrote: > Speaking for a moment as the list owner. Posts by this OP are usually > blatant provocation and I usually filter them out before they hit the > list. (They'll still appear if you're reading via Usenet). In this case

Re: Message-IDs on Usenet gateway

2015-12-06 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:51:54 -0500, Random832 writes: >Something weird is going on. On google groups, this message has >a different Message-ID: > I think it is this problem. Start here. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2015-November/025225.html Laura -- https://

Message-IDs on Usenet gateway

2015-12-06 Thread Random832
Dave Farrance writes: > That raises another question. I'm seeing a number of broken threads > because people reply to posts that are not present in Usenet. It's not > just my main news-server because my newreader can gather posts from > several Usenet servers and thos

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-24 Thread cl
Sturla Molden wrote: > Monte Milanuk wrote: > > Aaaannnd here we have a good example of why it would be really nice to > > be able to filter/score based on the message *body*, not just the > > headers. 8( > > Actually, here we have the reason why Usenet died. >

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-23 Thread Sturla Molden
Monte Milanuk wrote: > Aaaannnd here we have a good example of why it would be really nice to > be able to filter/score based on the message *body*, not just the > headers. 8( Actually, here we have the reason why Usenet died. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-07-22, Monte Milanuk wrote: > On 2014-07-22, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2014-07-22, Monte Milanuk wrote: >>> On 2014-07-22, ismeal shanshi wrote: >>> [drugs for sale] >> >>> Aaaannnd here we have a good example of why it would be really nice >>> to be able to filter/score based on the m

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Monte Milanuk wrote: > Other people > posting from google groups are not malicious/trolls/jerks/spammers - and > honestly until I started using slrn again, I didn't understand what all > the fuss was about - gui news readers like Thunderbird handle the > messages f

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-07-22, Monte Milanuk wrote: >> On 2014-07-22, ismeal shanshi wrote: >> [drugs for sale] > >> Aaaannnd here we have a good example of why it would be really nice >> to be able to filter/score based on the message *body*, not just the >> headers. 8( >

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-07-22, Monte Milanuk wrote: > On 2014-07-22, ismeal shanshi wrote: > [drugs for sale] > Aaaannnd here we have a good example of why it would be really nice > to be able to filter/score based on the message *body*, not just the > headers. 8( slrn filtered that out just fine based on head

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Monte Milanuk
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Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Neil D. Cerutti
On 7/22/2014 11:14 AM, Anssi Saari wrote: I don't really know about about html and slrn since I don't see much of it but links in a terminal application is usually something for the terminal to handle. I run Gnus on a remote machine and use a local terminal for display, Konsole in Linux and mintt

Re: OT: usenet reader software

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Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Martin S
t;>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise >>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. >> >> Well, here you are at news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of >all >> that noise. > >Besides, there's been a sli

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Anssi Saari
Marko Rauhamaa writes: > Martin S : > >> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise >> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. > > Well, here you are at news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of all > that noise. Besides, there

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Anssi Saari
memilanuk writes: > I'm on Ubuntu (14.04 LTS, if it matters) and I've been using > Thunderbird for a lng time... I've tinkered with slrn off and on > over the years, tried pan occasionally due to recommendations... but I > keep ending up back @ Thunderbird. About the only thing it doesn't do

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-21 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-21, Paul Rudin wrote: > Sturla Molden writes: > >> wrote: >> >>> That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news >>> reader. >> >> The problem was that Thunderbird does not support killfiles when used as a >> newsreader. Leafnode adds filtering capabilities which T

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-20 Thread Martin S
I'm trying gnus again, and immediately see the beauty of it. Actually Usenet is fast and commercial free, and easier to secure from prying NSA etc al (?) so maybe it will receive a general revival eventually. /martin s On 21 Jul 2014, Paul Rudin wrote: >Sturla Molden writes: >

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-20 Thread Paul Rudin
Sturla Molden writes: > wrote: > >> That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news >> reader. > > The problem was that Thunderbird does not support killfiles when used as a > newsreader. Leafnode adds filtering capabilities which Thunderbird > (supposedly) does not have. >

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Monte Milanuk wrote: > On 2014-07-20, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Ctrl-X in Angband, > > Ah-HAH! I've been trying to remember what the name was of an old CLI > game that I used to play via a dialup ssh connection (using PuTTY) to a > Panix.com account (they ran on

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-20 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-20, Chris Angelico wrote: > Ctrl-X in Angband, Ah-HAH! I've been trying to remember what the name was of an old CLI game that I used to play via a dialup ssh connection (using PuTTY) to a Panix.com account (they ran on NetBSD). Screen was my friend due to dropped connections, and I

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Monte Milanuk wrote: > For whatever reason I never really tried tin (or trn). I might have to > give them a whirl... though I must say that using slrn seems kind of > like riding a bicycle... my fingers apparently remember more than my > brain does ;) Heh, totall

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Monte Milanuk wrote: > That said, the irony that there seems to be a distinct *lack* of GUI > usenet reader programs for Linux just kills me. Seems like its either Pan, > or knode if you're into KDE. Otherwise... you get to go dredge up old >

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-19, c...@isbd.net wrote: > memilanuk wrote: >> >> Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth >> trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? >> > If slrn was a maybe then there's also tin for text mode news readers, > it's what I have always used. I don't know

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-19, Martin S wrote: > Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelm > ed signal by a factor of something close to 542. Martin, Fair enough question. Seems like a lot of usenet groups have become spam-fests, and using it to d/l various binar

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Martin S
>From what I've seen so far it's more like your limited standard mail filtering >tool. IIRC when I used Usenet much gnus on Emacs had much more powerful capabilities. /martin s On 20 Jul 2014, Mark Lawrence wrote: >On 19/07/2014 23:38, Sturla Molden wrote: >> w

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Martin S
>From what I've seen so far it's more like your limited standard mail filtering >tool. IIRC when I used Usenet much gnus on Emacs had much more powerful capabilities. /martin s On 20 Jul 2014, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 19/07/2014 23:38, Sturla Molden wrote: < c...@isb

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/07/2014 23:38, Sturla Molden wrote: wrote: That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news reader. The problem was that Thunderbird does not support killfiles when used as a newsreader. Leafnode adds filtering capabilities which Thunderbird (supposedly) does not hav

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Sturla Molden
wrote: > That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news > reader. The problem was that Thunderbird does not support killfiles when used as a newsreader. Leafnode adds filtering capabilities which Thunderbird (supposedly) does not have. Sturla -- https://mail.python.org/ma

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Sturla Molden
Martin S wrote: > Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise > overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. news.gmane.org can be a convinient way to read mailing lists instead of getting tons of mail. Sturla -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread cl
Sturla Molden wrote: > > Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth > > trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? > > leafnode > That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news reader. -- Chris Green · -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread cl
memilanuk wrote: > > Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth > trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? > If slrn was a maybe then there's also tin for text mode news readers, it's what I have always used. I don't know what it does with HTML as none of the groups I

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico : > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> Interesting. Who's filtering comp.lang.python? > > Possibly your provider, possibly your client, hard to say. But I'm > pretty confident you do NOT see all the spam that goes through, > because it's definitely there. We

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> There's a lot of hot air but I have yet to encounter spam. >> >> That means you have good filtering. > > Interesting. Who's filtering comp.lang.python? Possib

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico : > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> There's a lot of hot air but I have yet to encounter spam. > > That means you have good filtering. Interesting. Who's filtering comp.lang.python? Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> Martin S : >>> >>>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise >>>> ov

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico : > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> Martin S : >> >>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise >>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. >> >> Well, here you are at ne

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Martin S : > >> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise >> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. > > Well, here you are at news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of all

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Martin S : > Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise > overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. Well, here you are at news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of all that noise. Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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