Re: Web Frameworks

2017-03-09 Thread Patrick McFarling
> > I would like to know what are the pros and cons of the web frameworks made > > in python. > > The one I tend to lean towards is Flask. > > -- > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Thanks for the book! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Web Frameworks

2017-03-09 Thread David Froger
There is a free ebook on the subject on O'Reilly: http://www.oreilly.com/web-platform/free/python-web-frameworks.csp Hope it helps, David Quoting Patrick McFarling (2017-03-09 10:24:16) > I would like to know what are the pros and cons of the web frameworks made in > python. >

Web Frameworks

2017-03-09 Thread Patrick McFarling
I would like to know what are the pros and cons of the web frameworks made in python. The one I tend to lean towards is Flask. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How may I learn Python Web Frameworks

2015-07-24 Thread Nonami Animashaun
The official Django docs is pretty detailed https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/ You could also look at the Django book but it confesses to being written for version 1.4 even though it goes ahead to assure us that it's not outdated https://django-book.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ -- https://mail.

Re: How may I learn Python Web Frameworks

2015-07-24 Thread darnold via Python-list
you'll find a very extensive Flask tutorial at http://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world . -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How may I learn Python Web Frameworks

2015-07-24 Thread Laura Creighton
web2py http://www.web2py.com/ has extensive tutorials, videos, and a book. Laura -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How may I learn Python Web Frameworks

2015-07-24 Thread subhabrata . banerji
Dear Group, I am slightly new in Python Web Frameworks. I could learn bit of Django, Flask and Bottle. But I am looking for a good web based tutorial like Python or NLTK. Somehow, I did not find documentations for web frameworks are very good, one has to do lot of experiments even to learn

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-22 Thread Thomas Bach
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:49:52PM -0800, rh wrote: > > wheezy + "myvirtualenv" = 3.3MB > pyramid = 92MB $ mkvirtualenv --no-site-packages -p python2.7 pyramid $ pip install -U distribute $ pip install pyramid $ du -h .virtualenvs/pyramid 22M .virtualenvs/pyramid $ du

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Modulok
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:23 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> Counting complexity by giving a score to every statement encourages code >>> like this: >>> >>> def bletch(x,y): >>> return x + {"foo":y*2,"bar":x*3+y,"quux":math.sin(

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:23 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Counting complexity by giving a score to every statement encourages code >> like this: >> >> def bletch(x,y): >> return x + {"foo":y*2,"bar":x*3+y,"quux":math.sin(y)}.get(mod

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:57 AM, rh wrote: > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:12:26 -0800 > Chris Rebert wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:49 AM, rh >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:41:42 +0300 >> > Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: >> > I'm looking at different technology right now on which to base a >>

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
Richard, Thank you for the comment. I have examined web frameworks for PEP8 and CC metrics already. Results are here: http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-pep8-consistency.html http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/11/python-web-excessive-complexity.html Same applies to performance

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Rebert
recommended level of 10 (threshold that points to the >> fact the source code is too complex and refactoring is suggested). >> Here is a list of web frameworks examined: bottle, cherrypy, >> circuits, django, flask, pyramid, pysi, tornado, turbogears, web.py, >> web2py and whee

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 21/11/2012 12:47, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Hm... what serves an evidence purpose for you? Well-done empirical studies, like the one I gave you. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to inte

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
Hm... what serves an evidence purpose for you? See functions at line 2619 and 2974 as an example for CC 20+: https://github.com/defnull/bottle/blob/master/bottle.py Andriy > To: python-list@python.org > From: robert.k...@gmail.com > Subject

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 21/11/2012 12:17, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Agreed. I think we have pretty much the same point of view on this. All these metrics advise you... this is again depends how you look at this. If you are a new comer to a project, you usually spend some time on code review, talk to people, read d

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
analysis give you an initial picture, how it fits with your own vision, etc. Convince or accept? Andriy Kornatskyy > To: python-list@python.org > From: robert.k...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 21/11/2012 11:02, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Robert, You would never get a better product by accident. The meaning of better product might differ from team to team but you can not ignore excessive complexity. Earlier or later you get back to that code and refactor it, thus existence of such

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
I believe for the quality of code you produce. Thanks. Andriy > From: steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:43:10 + > To: python-list@python.org > > O

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 21/11/2012 01:43, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 +, Robert Kern wrote: The source of bugs is not excessive complexity in a method, just excessive lines of code. Taken literally, that cannot possibly the case. def method(self, a, b, c): do_this(a) do_that

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
. Thanks. Andriy > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:23 +1100 > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > From: ros...@gmail.com > To: python-list@python.org > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Andriy Kornatskyy > wrote: >

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:23 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > Counting complexity by giving a score to every statement encourages code > like this: > > def bletch(x,y): > return x + {"foo":y*2,"bar":x*3+y,"quux":math.sin(y)}.get(mode,0) > > instead of: > > def bletch(x,y): > if mode=="foo": r

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
> From: ulrich.eckha...@dominolaser.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:33:09 +0100 > To: python-list@python.org > > Am 21.11.2012 02:43, schrieb Steven D'Aprano: > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 +, Robert K

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
. Thanks. Andriy > To: python-list@python.org > From: robert.k...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:33:46 + > > On 20/11/2012 20:22, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: > > > >

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
Am 21.11.2012 02:43, schrieb Steven D'Aprano: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 +, Robert Kern wrote: The source of bugs is not excessive complexity in a method, just excessive lines of code. Taken literally, that cannot possibly the case. def method(self, a, b, c): do_this(a) do_tha

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 +, Robert Kern wrote: > The source of bugs is not excessive complexity in a method, just > excessive lines of code. Taken literally, that cannot possibly the case. def method(self, a, b, c): do_this(a) do_that(b) do_something_else(c) def method(self

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Robert Kern
On 20/11/2012 20:22, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Robert, I respect your point of view and it definitely make sense to me. I personally do not have a problem to understand CC but agree, method LoC is easier to understand. Regardless the path your choose in your next refactoring (based on method

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
> To: python-list@python.org > From: robert.k...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 + > > On 20/11/2012 19:46, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: > > > > Robert, > >

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Robert Kern
On 20/11/2012 19:46, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Robert, Thank you for the comment. I do not try relate CC with LOC. Instead pointing to excessive complexity, something that is beyond recommended threshold, a subject to refactoring in respective web frameworks. Those areas are likely to be

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
Robert, Thank you for the comment. I do not try relate CC with LOC. Instead pointing to excessive complexity, something that is beyond recommended threshold, a subject to refactoring in respective web frameworks. Those areas are likely to be potential source of bugs (e.g. due to low code

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Robert Kern
refactoring is suggested). Here is a list of web frameworks examined: bottle, cherrypy, circuits, django, flask, pyramid, pysi, tornado, turbogears, web.py, web2py and wheezy.web. Cyclomatic complexity tells you nothing that counting lines of code doesn't already. http://www.scirp.org/Jo

Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
Cyclomatic (or conditional) complexity is a metric used to indicate the complexity of a source code. Excessive complexity is something that is beyond recommended level of 10 (threshold that points to the fact the source code is too complex and refactoring is suggested). Here is a list of web

Python Web Frameworks PEP8 Consistency

2012-10-18 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
The code is read much more often than it is written. The PEP8 guidelines are intended to improve the readability of code. We will take a look at web frameworks source code readability (bottle, cherrypy, circuits, django, flask, pyramid, tornado, web.py, web2py and wheezy.web): http

Re: Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Python compare?

2011-11-04 Thread Stefan Behnel
extendible). "e-commerce" is also a very broad term. But I'd expect that any of the recent web frameworks (certainly including Django) will satisfy your needs in some way. Are there recent accessible statistics available, comparing these metrics across the most popular web-

Re: Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Python compare?

2011-11-03 Thread 88888 Dihedral
I suggest that the use of dynamical page forwarding to different severs which run the same software package. This can be done in python! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Python compare?

2011-11-03 Thread Alec Taylor
dible). Are there recent accessible statistics available, comparing these metrics across the most popular web-frameworks? (i.e. Symfony, DJango, Rails, ASP.NET &etc) Thanks for all suggestions, Alec Taylor -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to select Python web frameworks and which one is the best framework ?

2011-05-19 Thread Kushal Kumaran
erally found in >> now-a-days web application like security, database connectivity, >> authentication etc. I found few web frameworks over the net like django, >> zope 2/3, pylons, turbogears, web2py, grok etc. etc. >> I just want to know that how developers/managers/organiz

Re: How to select Python web frameworks and which one is the best framework ?

2011-05-18 Thread VGNU Linux
se connectivity, > authentication etc. I found few web frameworks over the net like django, > zope 2/3, pylons, turbogears, web2py, grok etc. etc. > I just want to know that how developers/managers/organizations select a > framework which best suits their needs ? what are the parameters for > select

How to select Python web frameworks and which one is the best framework ?

2011-05-17 Thread VGNU Linux
Hi all, I am confused on which web framework to select for developing a small data driven web application. Application will have features generally found in now-a-days web application like security, database connectivity, authentication etc. I found few web frameworks over the net like django

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-25 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Aug 26, 12:19 pm, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > On 01:41 am, a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: > > > > > > >In article > >, > >Graham Dumpleton   wrote: > >>On Aug 24, 6:34=A0am, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: > > >>>In any case, there is bottle [1], which provides a *very minimal* > >>>framewo= > >>r

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-25 Thread exarkun
On 01:41 am, a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: In article , Graham Dumpleton wrote: On Aug 24, 6:34=A0am, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: In any case, there is bottle [1], which provides a *very minimal* framewo= rk for WSGI web development. =A0Don't expect too much, it is really small, a= nd does

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-25 Thread Aahz
In article , Graham Dumpleton wrote: >On Aug 24, 6:34=A0am, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: >> >> In any case, there is bottle [1], which provides a *very minimal* framewo= >rk >> for WSGI web development. =A0Don't expect too much, it is really small, a= >nd >> doesn't do much more than routing and mi

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-25 Thread Nobody
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:32:09 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: > What's different about Python 3 is that there is only unicode strings, > whereas Python 2 has a string type and a unicode type. Python 2 has "str" (char) and "unicode" (wchar) types. Python 3 has "bytes" (char) and "str" (wchar) types.

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-23 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Aug 24, 6:34 am, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: > At Sunday 23 August 2009 22:13:16 you wrote:> I use Chinese and therefore > Unicode very heavily, and so Python 3 is > > an unavoidable choice for me. > > Python 2.x supports Unicode just as well as Python 3.  Every common web > framework works perfe

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-23 Thread Stefan Behnel
David Prager Branner wrote: > I use Chinese and therefore Unicode very heavily, and so Python 3 is > an unavoidable choice for me. As others noted before, this statement is not true by itself. > But I'm frustrated by the fact that > Django, Pylons, and TurboGears do not support Python 3 yet and

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-23 Thread Sebastian Wiesner
At Sunday 23 August 2009 22:13:16 you wrote: > I use Chinese and therefore Unicode very heavily, and so Python 3 is > an unavoidable choice for me. Python 2.x supports Unicode just as well as Python 3. Every common web framework works perfectly with unicode. In any case, there is bottle [1], whi

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
ccording to their development websites) will not for a very long > time to come. > > So I am asking for recommendations for web frameworks that support > Python 3. I am running Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty). Python 2.x has Unicode. In fact Django and the like use unicode heavily. What's differe

web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-23 Thread David Prager Branner
g for recommendations for web frameworks that support Python 3. I am running Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty). Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Are Python-based web frameworks reliable enough?

2009-05-26 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Gilles Ganault a écrit : Hello Until now, the modest web apps I wrote were all in PHP because it's available on just about any hosted server. I now have a couple of ideas for applications where I would deploy my own servers, so that I'd rather write them in Python because I find the lan

Re: Are Python-based web frameworks reliable enough?

2009-05-25 Thread Krishnakant
p requests and responses. let that be taken care by the best tool (apache ) and let your application handle how to manage the logic and send out views. > 3. What about performance as compared to equivalent PHP/MySQL apps? > Performance is very good if you use the right tool in t

Are Python-based web frameworks reliable enough?

2009-05-25 Thread Gilles Ganault
Hello Until now, the modest web apps I wrote were all in PHP because it's available on just about any hosted server. I now have a couple of ideas for applications where I would deploy my own servers, so that I'd rather write them in Python because I find the language more pleasant to writ

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-12-15 Thread Benoit
Gluon was made at my school? I seriously gotta start talking to the CTI department. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-29 Thread TYR
On Nov 29, 3:15 pm, Aaron Watters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 22, 11:22 pm, SamFeltus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > """Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """ > > > Should have happened years ago. > > It did. Mark Hammond embedded Python under MSIE about > the same time javascript and

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-29 Thread Aaron Watters
On Nov 22, 11:22 pm, SamFeltus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > """Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """ > > Should have happened years ago. It did. Mark Hammond embedded Python under MSIE about the same time javascript and java applets came along (94, maybe?) It didn't fly because of political an

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-25 Thread Jan Claeys
Op Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:29:38 -0800, schreef BartlebyScrivener: > I'm just learning Django and feeling my way through all of this server > terminology. Where does Django's memcached feature fit into all of this? > When you all speak of start up costs and memory intensive loading for > each requests

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-23 Thread BartlebyScrivener
I'm just learning Django and feeling my way through all of this server terminology. Where does Django's memcached feature fit into all of this? When you all speak of start up costs and memory intensive loading for each requests, doesn't the caching feature eliminate most of that overhead? http://w

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-23 Thread joe jacob
On Nov 21, 10:27 pm, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > On Nov 21, 6:25 am, Bruno Desthuilliers > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> joe jacob a écrit : > >> (snip) > > >>> Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > >>> Django and pylons are the best.

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-23 Thread TYR
On Nov 23, 4:22 am, SamFeltus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > """Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """ > > Should have happened years ago. Python Internet Environment: PIE. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-22 Thread Ian Bicking
On Nov 22, 11:00 am, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 21, 12:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I would say that that is now debatable. Overall mod_wsgi is probably a > > better package in terms of what it has to offer. Only thing against > > mod_wsgi at thi

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-22 Thread SamFeltus
"""Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """ Should have happened years ago. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-22 Thread TYR
Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. If you're meant to be able to run java code in a browser vm; and flash; and javascript...why not a reduced version of python? I'm thinking a sandboxed interpreter, perhaps based on EmbeddedPython, and a restricted set of classes; core logic, string and maths,

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-22 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Nov 23, 4:00 am, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 21, 12:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I would say that that is now debatable. Overall mod_wsgi is probably a > > better package in terms of what it has to offer. Only thing against > > mod_wsgi at this

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-22 Thread Ian Bicking
On Nov 20, 7:55 am, "Joe Riopel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 20, 2007 8:46 AM, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. > > Pylons too, it's good for development b

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-22 Thread Istvan Albert
On Nov 21, 12:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would say that that is now debatable. Overall mod_wsgi is probably a > better package in terms of what it has to offer. Only thing against > mod_wsgi at this point is peoples willingness to accept something that > is new in conju

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-21 Thread Steven Bethard
Jeff wrote: > On Nov 21, 6:25 am, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> joe jacob a écrit : >> (snip) >> >>> Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that >>> Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the >>> same information that Django is

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-21 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Nov 21, 4:42 am, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Django is best among the frameworks so I > downloaded it and I found it very difficult to configure. I referred > the djangobook. It's not a turnkey type thing like WordPress or Joomla. It's a webframework. Also watch versions. The book ex

Re: Python web frameworks + adobe flex

2007-11-21 Thread SamFeltus
I never used the Django AMF, I use JSON to go between Python and Flex. It works well, but lacks easy 2 way communication of course. Interfacing with Flex is a gaping hole in the Python libraries. Python needs a web framework that embraces Flex from the ground up, HTML being such a limited web disp

RE: Python web frameworks + adobe flex

2007-11-21 Thread Sells, Fred
slight shift of topic here. I'm a newbie at standard web stuff. Mostly java webstart and a little mod_python. I experimented with Adobe Flex and really loved it for doing the front end. The backend needs to provide xml, json or AMF (an adobe proprietary binary format). For prototyping, I was

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-21 Thread Joe Riopel
On Nov 21, 2007 5:42 AM, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the > same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I > downloaded it and I found it

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-21 Thread Jeff
On Nov 21, 6:25 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > joe jacob a écrit : > (snip) > > > Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > > Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the > > same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I > > d

RE: Python web frameworks

2007-11-21 Thread Sells, Fred
-snip-- > > Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the > same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I > downloaded it and I found it very difficult to configure. I referred > the dja

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-21 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
joe jacob a écrit : (snip) > Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the > same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I > downloaded it and I found it very difficult to configure. ???

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-21 Thread joe jacob
On Nov 21, 10:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 21, 1:37 pm, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 20, 3:39 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > This only holds if actually hosted on Apache. As Django these days > > > supports

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Nov 21, 1:37 pm, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 20, 3:39 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > This only holds if actually hosted on Apache. As Django these days > > supports WSGI interface there is nothing to stop it being run with > > other hosting solu

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Nov 20, 3:39 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This only holds if actually hosted on Apache. As Django these days > supports WSGI interface there is nothing to stop it being run with > other hosting solutions that support WSGI. So, you could host it under > paster or CherryPy WS

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Nov 21, 2:33 am, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 20, 9:42 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 12/7. Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > > > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. > > > I was rather shocked to learn t

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Jeff
On Nov 20, 10:00 am, Thomas Wittek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff: > > > I don't know much about the others. Turbo gears uses Mochikit, which > > hasn't had a new stable release in some time. I prefer jQuery myself. > > You can use jQuery with TurboGears if you develop custom widgets (I do so)

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Frank Miles
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, joe jacob wrote: > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. Personally I found zope/plone to be very much its own enormousl

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Istvan Albert
On Nov 20, 9:42 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 12/7. Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. > > I was rather shocked to learn that django only has this tiny server and does > not come with a stand-a

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
joe jacob a écrit : > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. As far as I'm concerned, the winners are Django and Pylons (my own preference g

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Paul Boddie
server and does > not come with a stand-alone server and is supposed to run as > mod_python/cgi-driven app through apache. The standalone server aspect of a large number of Python Web frameworks typically involves BaseHTTPServer from the standard library, as far as I've seen, excluding th

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Thomas Wittek
Jeff: > I don't know much about the others. Turbo gears uses Mochikit, which > hasn't had a new stable release in some time. I prefer jQuery myself. You can use jQuery with TurboGears if you develop custom widgets (I do so). No problem here. -- Thomas Wittek Web: http://gedankenkonstrukt.de/ J

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> 12/7. Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. I was rather shocked to learn that django only has this tiny server and does not come with a stand-alone server and is supposed to run as mod_python/cgi-driven app through ap

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Bernard
On 20 nov, 07:19, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. I'm making web apps with CherryPy at work

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Joe Riopel
On Nov 20, 2007 8:46 AM, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. Pylons too, it's good for development but using the bundled web server is not recommended for production. --

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Nov 20, 6:19 am, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. I'm looking at django mainly. I hope

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Joe Riopel
On Nov 20, 2007 7:19 AM, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. I wouldn't classify mod_pytho

Re: Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread Jeff
The only one that I have used extensively is Django, which is very easy to use and quite powerful in the arena for which it was created. It has a powerful admin interface that automatically generates data entry forms for content producers and a decent template system. It has some definite drawback

Python web frameworks

2007-11-20 Thread joe jacob
There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms of performance and ease of study. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-10-29 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
johnbraduk a écrit : > Thomas, > Like many others I have been going round the same loop for months. > > I have struggled with most of the Python solutions, including > TurboGears and have given up and gone back to ColdFusion. I am not > trying to kick of a religious war about the pros and cons of

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-10-27 Thread johnbraduk
Thomas, Like many others I have been going round the same loop for months. I have struggled with most of the Python solutions, including TurboGears and have given up and gone back to ColdFusion. I am not trying to kick of a religious war about the pros and cons of ColdFusion as a scripting langau

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-10-16 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I have posted a new version of Gluon and some slides. I am hoping to have a draft manual soon. I believe I have fixed all of the issues that have been addressed but, if not, please let me know. Massimo Did you try gluon? http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/examples On Oct 13, 2007, at 12:17 AM, Kay Sch

Re: Paste and WSGI 2.0 [WAS: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks]

2007-10-15 Thread Ian Bicking
On Oct 14, 3:46 am, Michele Simionato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we do agree entirely, it is just that the application we have > in > mind is more a collection of web services than a traditional Web > application. > Now, since you are here, there is an unrelated question that I want to >

Re: Paste and WSGI 2.0 [WAS: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks]

2007-10-14 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Oct 14, 6:46 pm, Michele Simionato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, since you are here, there is an unrelated question that I want to > ask you, concerning the future of Paste with respect to WSGI 2.0. > I do realize that at this stage WSGI 2.0, is only a draft Hmmm, not sure where people keep

Paste and WSGI 2.0 [WAS: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks]

2007-10-14 Thread Michele Simionato
On Oct 14, 2:52 am, Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, going without a framework (which at least in his article is > what Michele seems to be comparing Pylons against) isn't always so > bad. I started writing an Atompub server in Pylons, but felt like I > was spending too much tim

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-10-13 Thread Ian Bicking
On Oct 6, 8:13 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > Well... Last year, I had a look at Pylons, then played a bit with wsgi > and building my own framework over it. I finally dropped that code and > went back to Pylons, which I felt could become far better than my own > efforts. Now since then I had wa

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-10-13 Thread Ian Bicking
On Oct 6, 8:29 am, Michele Simionato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you (or something else) have something to say about Beaker? > I looked at the source code and it seems fine to me, but I have > not used it directly, not stressed it. I need a > production-level WSGI session middleware and I wonde

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-10-13 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
n you do not need to import modules. The gluon modules you > > need already imported for you. > > > > Gluon has a top-down design. This means that the Gluon APIs are not > > under development. They are 100% stable. There may be bugs and they > > will be fixed but the synta

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-10-13 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
may be bugs and they > will be fixed but the syntax and signature of functions is not > subject to change. This is why I started making Gluon, I am teaching > a class on web frameworks and the API of Django and TG are not as > stable as I wish they were. Moreover they have a too steep l

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

2007-10-13 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
d but the syntax and signature of functions is not subject to change. This is why I started making Gluon, I am teaching a class on web frameworks and the API of Django and TG are not as stable as I wish they were. Moreover they have a too steep learning curve when compared to Gluon. Please t

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