David E. Konerding DSD staff wrote:
Actually, the real problem with the wxWidgets documentation is that it
doesn't tell you
*how* to do things. It does only a barely adequate job as an API reference,
but what it lacks is
an extensive howto. I waste too much of my time dinking around deep
On Tuesday 16 August 2005 05:48, Magnus Lycka wrote:
The fact that his excellent, more or less daily postings are so badly
needed does indicate a problem, either with the design of the toolkit,
or with the docs. I'm not sure which.
I htink that there is such an overwhelming amount of stuff
Torsten Bronger wrote:
I've been having a closer look at wxPython which is not Pythonic at
all and bad documented. Probably I'll use it nevertheless.
Aye. Couldn't agree more.
PyGTK and PyQt may have their own advantages and disadvantages.
I like PyGTK because the calls are C-based and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Torsten Bronger wrote:
I've been having a closer look at wxPython which is not Pythonic at
all and bad documented. Probably I'll use it nevertheless.
Aye. Couldn't agree more.
You know, whenever someone mentions wxPython being badly documented, I
have to wonder
Brian Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Torsten Bronger wrote:
I've been having a closer look at wxPython which is not Pythonic at
all and bad documented. Probably I'll use it nevertheless.
Aye. Couldn't agree more.
You know, whenever someone mentions wxPython
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Finney wrote:
Brian Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Torsten Bronger wrote:
I've been having a closer look at wxPython which is not Pythonic at
all and bad documented. Probably I'll use it nevertheless.
Aye. Couldn't agree more.
Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 06 Aug 2005 17:27:33 -0700, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there a free language you consider successful? I can't think of any
that are a lot more (i.e.
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
I notice that the Wikipedia doesn't have a definition for special
purpose language, instead preferring the phrase Domain Specific
Langauge. That matches the definition that agrees with what I
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:59:28 -0400,
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a free language you consider successful? I can't think of any
that are a lot more (i.e. - an order of magnitude) successful than
Python that aren't derived from C.
How about Postscript? (I believe that
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there a free language you consider successful? I can't think of any
that are a lot more (i.e. - an order of magnitude) successful than
Python that aren't derived from C.
SQL
Have you noticed that languages with really cool features aren't very
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...] You didn't answer the question
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer wrote:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think you'll find that wxPython installs perfectly on Tiger using
the package provided. Indeed, the only really painful platform to
install wxPython on is Linux, where you pretty much need to build from
source if you want the latest and
Paul McNett wrote:
Mike Meyer wrote:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think you'll find that wxPython installs perfectly on Tiger using
the package provided. Indeed, the only really painful platform to
install wxPython on is Linux, where you pretty much need to build from
source if you
Hallöchen!
Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:53:28 -0400, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed
the following in comp.lang.python:
No, it's not a discussion about estimates. The average household
in a G8 country has more computers that don't run Windows -
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 01:04 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Right. Let's go back to the original question: What's the app I use on
Unix that acts like py2exe on Windows and py2app on Unix?
Any archiving system can be coerced into collecting all the parts
together. None of them do it automatically.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 01:04 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Right. Let's go back to the original question: What's the app I use on
Unix that acts like py2exe on Windows and py2app on Unix?
Here's where I ask *you* to stop being an ass.
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
You didn't answer the question about how you define agile
project.
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked What app do I
use to bundle my applications for Unix, ala py2exe (or whatever it is)
for Windows? You're telling me how to install wxPython on
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:47 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked What app do I
use to bundle my applications for Unix, ala py2exe (or whatever it is)
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Because such projects attract the greatest number of developers,
many of them being amongst the most diligent developers, too. I
expect this to have a
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:47 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked What app do I
use to bundle my applications for
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think you'll find that wxPython installs perfectly on Tiger using
the package provided. Indeed, the only really painful platform to
install wxPython on is Linux, where you pretty much need to build from
source if you want the latest and greatest.
FWIW,
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, it's not a discussion about estimates. The average household in
a G8 country has more computers that don't run Windows - and in fact
don't have GUIs at all - than otherwise. This is a fact of life.
Most of those computers aren't programmable in Python
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
You didn't answer the question about how you define agile
project. Please do so if you expect a comment on
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
I'm interested in a language with a big community. This is my
definition of success. [...]
GUI applications seem to be the most attractive application type.
This is not only true for
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 00:42:53 -0400, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
In practise any Python GUI is going to contain code from otyher
languages since if it was coded all the way down in python it would
be too slow.
Not necessarily. My window manger is
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 09:45 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
Yes, this is what I meant with legacy code. C and C++ are
actually special-purpose. They are good for controlling a computer
but not for implementing an idea. Their current vitality on almost
all software areas arise from the fact
Hallöchen!
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 09:45 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
Yes, this is what I meant with legacy code. C and C++ are
actually special-purpose. They are good for controlling a
computer but not for implementing an idea. Their current
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Regardless, when you say Unix, what do you mean? You may as well say
OS as this term has little meaning. Linux (which flavor)? BSD? SCO?
HPUX? OS/X? Minix? Whichever way, I suspect that a bit of distutils
hacking would solve your problem.
I
Jorge Godoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer wrote:
In fact this sounds more like a joke I've heard a while ago: standards,
if you don't like the ones out there, create your own.
Works for me.
What works for you? You believe that chaos is better than having standards?
I believe that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 00:42:53 -0400, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
In practise any Python GUI is going to contain code from otyher
languages since if it was coded all the way down in python it would
be too
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
I'm interested in a language with a big community. This is my
definition of success. [...]
GUI applications seem to be the most attractive
Paul McNett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
project I've found, but still doable.
Well, I've got a long history of installing things from source -
going
back to v6. On OS X, I like the darwin ports stuff, so I tried that:
% sudo port install wxpython
It blew up trying to compile wxpython. The
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked What app do I
use to bundle my applications for Unix, ala py2exe (or whatever it is)
for Windows? You're telling me how to install wxPython on those
platforms.
I know how to install
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Because such projects attract the greatest number of developers,
many of them being amongst the most diligent developers, too. I
expect this to have a positive influence of the language.
You
Hallöchen!
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can't really understand your hostility towards non-Tkinter
toolkits. In the case of wxPython, it's part of SUSE, which is
probably also true for Fedora and Mandriva. Installing is as
easy
Hallöchen!
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:46 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Well, I think this exposes one of the more interesting sides of
open source software in general. For better or worse, you get
choices.
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No it's not on Fedora, at least FC3.
It may not be on a DVD but the RPMs are avaiable where Fedora should
look for them.
I had huge trouble trying to build it and gave up.
It's perfectly okay if you are used to build everything yourself but
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:47 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
snip
commentary about how Paul wants to both not install *anything* and if he
does have to install something he must compile it from source because he
shouldn't have had to do it in the first place therefore he needs to
make it as difficult as
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 08:02:43 -0400, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 31 July 2005 01:02, phil hunt wrote:
You mightn't have, but I suspect more Python programers who've
written GUI apps have used Tkinter than any of the other APIs.
Not that I'm a particular fan of it, it's just I
On 31 Jul 2005 10:07:52 -0700, Kay Schluehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Sunday 31 July 2005 01:02, phil hunt wrote:
You mightn't have, but I suspect more Python programers who've
written GUI apps have used Tkinter than any of the other APIs.
Not that I'm a particular fan
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:52:58 -0400, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Calvin Spealman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The choice is GUI toolkits is largely seperate
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:09:48 -0700, Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 10:07 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
Some other people already abandoned Python not for the worst reasons:
http://www.kevin-walzer.com/pivot/entry.php?id=69
Being a developer requires not only a bit of
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 08:53 +0100, phil hunt wrote:
I was under the impression -- from reading this ng -- that wx was
buggy on some platforms and less portable than Tkinter. Not true?
It depends on how you define buggy and portable... also platform
is up for grabs too ;)
On the serious side,
phil hunt wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:09:48 -0700, Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 10:07 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
Some other people already abandoned Python not for the worst reasons:
http://www.kevin-walzer.com/pivot/entry.php?id=69
Being a developer requires
On Sunday 31 July 2005 22:39, Paul Rubin wrote:
import dabo
app = dabo.dApp()
dApp.start()
Sorry, I couldn't do it in 5. ;-) Oh, and that includes a full menu,
too.
I get an ImportError exception when I try that. Any suggestions? Note
that I don't get that exception from
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:13:14 -0700 Cliff Wells wrote:
But how stable is GTK on systems such as Windows and OS/X? That has
been what has kept me from using it. Most GTK apps I've used on Windows
(including the venerable GIMP) are nowhere near as stable as their Linux
counterparts (although
Hello!
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:46:55 +0200 Torsten Bronger wrote:
Be that as it may, some Google postings suggest that it works at
least with wxPython.
Yes, it does. I hadn't done this a long time, but it is possible. In fact,
afaik there are less problems with py2exe and wxPython than with
On 31 Jul 2005 16:38:45 -0700 Paul Rubin wrote:
I can put up a Tk gui in about 5 lines of code from a stock Python
distro without having to install anything additional. How do I do
that with wxPython?
It is very easy under Debian Sarge to do it.
Well after installing python-tk which needs
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:20 +0200, Marek Kubica wrote:
If you already tried GIMP on Windows, better try Inkscape on Windows.. that
piece of GTK software is really good.
I don't do any actual work under Windows any more. My Windows VMware
session is purely for testing Windows apps and websites
Torsten Bronger wrote:
Hallöchen!
Peter Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 7/30/05, Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been having a closer look at wxPython which is not Pythonic
at all and bad documented. Probably I'll use it nevertheless.
PyGTK and PyQt may have their
Paul Rubin wrote:
I think my approach is in some sense completely typical: I don't want
to install ANYTHING, EVER. I've described this before. I want to buy
a new computer and have all the software I'll ever need already on the
hard drive, and use it from that day forward. By the time the
On 31 Jul 2005 09:03:41 -0700, Paul Rubin
http://phr.cx@nospam.invalid wrote:
How on earth did you decide that, since tkinter actually runs out of
the box when you install Python on most platforms, and wxPython doesn't?
I can't even think about trying out Dabo unless I'm willing to go through
This sort of intentional obtuseness grates on me too. Just to let you
know, this discussion has convinced me to try Dabo, which I knew nothing
about before. So your participation has not been useless. In fact, I
think I will start with your two-liner below so I can see what I get by
default
On Monday 01 August 2005 10:35, Terry Reedy wrote:
This sort of intentional obtuseness grates on me too. Just to let you
know, this discussion has convinced me to try Dabo, which I knew nothing
about before. So your participation has not been useless. In fact, I
think I will start with
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Sunday 31 July 2005 22:39, Paul Rubin wrote:
import dabo
app = dabo.dApp()
dApp.start()
Sorry, I couldn't do it in 5. ;-) Oh, and that includes a full menu,
too.
I get an ImportError exception when I try that. Any suggestions? Note
that I don't get
Devan L wrote:
If you're creating a new instance of your dApp(I assume its a class)
with no arguments, then effectively your just creating a default
program which is already defined in the dabo module. If you could write
it in a few, short lines of code by defining a new class, then you
might
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
In practise any Python GUI is going to contain code from otyher
languages since if it was coded all the way down in python it would
be too slow.
Oh, I could imagine that a MFC-like wrapper around win32gui, or another
one around Xlib wouldn't be slower that
Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 31 July 2005 12:03, Paul Rubin wrote:
How on earth did you decide that, since tkinter actually runs out of
the box when you install Python on most platforms, and wxPython doesn't?
Because Tkinter looked like crap on OS X. Sorry, but it's hard
How can I embed a browser in Tk (I mean a real browser, like Mozilla,
Safari, or even Exploder)? At all? On any platform? This has always
been the tradeoff for Tk.
Try this as one example:
http://wiki.tcl.tk/4094
Tk is great for learning, easy to write small, basic interfaces,
Peter Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Geez, can you whine some more? Most people are running wxPython just
fine,
Most people? What percentage of actual Python users do you think have
wxPython installed? If you're really claiming it's over 50%, you're
out of your mind.
--
On Monday 01 August 2005 15:21, Mark Roseman wrote:
FWIW, some people may find this page interesting, which gives you an
idea what standard Tk looks like on OS X, and then with adopting the
tile extension to Tk and a few other tweaks, which is on its way to
becoming a standard part of Tk:
On 01 Aug 2005 12:58:57 -0700, Paul Rubin
http://phr.cx@nospam.invalid wrote:
Geez, can you whine some more? Most people are running wxPython just
fine,
Most people? What percentage of actual Python users do you think have
wxPython installed? If you're really claiming it's over 50%,
Peter Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We were discussing your 'enormous pain' installing wxPython. I find it
interesting that you selectively quoted part of one line of my post,
Yes, the one line I quoted was the one that said most people have
wxPython installed, which is a preposterous claim.
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:26 -0400, Mark Roseman wrote:
How can I embed a browser in Tk (I mean a real browser, like Mozilla,
Safari, or even Exploder)? At all? On any platform? This has always
been the tradeoff for Tk.
Try this as one example:
http://wiki.tcl.tk/4094
Okay, I
On 01 Aug 2005 13:38:21 -0700, Paul Rubin
http://phr.cx@nospam.invalid wrote:
Peter Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We were discussing your 'enormous pain' installing wxPython. I find it
interesting that you selectively quoted part of one line of my post,
Yes, the one line I quoted was
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:38 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Peter Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We were discussing your 'enormous pain' installing wxPython. I find it
interesting that you selectively quoted part of one line of my post,
Yes, the one line I quoted was the one that said most
Kay Schluehr wrote:
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
In practise any Python GUI is going to contain code from otyher
languages since if it was coded all the way down in python it would
be too slow.
Oh, I could imagine that a MFC-like wrapper around win32gui, or another
one around Xlib
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Still, that leaves Linux and Mac out in the cold. But I'll admit you
met my challenge. Most likely you can actually do most of the things
with Tk you can with Wx, it's simply a matter of how much effort is
going to be (for instance, it's certainly quite
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was quite clear that by saying most people he was not referring to
the set of most Python users, but rather the set of most people who
have tried wxPython.
That wasn't clear to me. If that's what he meant, he should have said so.
--
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:13 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Still, that leaves Linux and Mac out in the cold. But I'll admit you
met my challenge. Most likely you can actually do most of the things
with Tk you can with Wx, it's simply a matter of how much
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:16 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was quite clear that by saying most people he was not referring to
the set of most Python users, but rather the set of most people who
have tried wxPython.
That wasn't clear to me. If that's
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Still, that leaves Linux and Mac out in the cold. But I'll admit you
met my challenge. Most likely you can actually do most of the things
with Tk you can with Wx, it's simply a matter of how much effort is
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 17:54 -0400, Mark Roseman wrote:
I'll point out that this has been done (in fact, many times). For
example:
http://tkhtml.hwaci.com
(Integrating Gecko in has also been done, as a side note).
Interesting. Your later point about hard to find is certainly
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:58 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
And what do I use to bundle my application for Unix? Most of the
things I build get installed on Unix servers.
You install GUI apps on Unix *servers*?
Yup. Thanks to the wonders of X, I can run GUI
Jorge Godoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer wrote:
We already have multiple distributions of Python: CPython, IronPython,
and Jython (and there's at least one more). We even have multiple
distributions of CPython, what with Active State doing their own and
the MacPython distribution.
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hallöchen!
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
None of us has talked about changing syntax. However, the
standard library is part of the language unless you're really
very petty.
Or you use
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 23:49 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:58 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
And what do I use to bundle my application for Unix? Most of the
things I build get installed on Unix servers.
You install GUI apps on Unix
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 23:56 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
I think you have me confused with someone else. I was responding to
someone who was claiming that the lack of a standard enterprise
strength GUI toolkit was a serious problem for Python - I disagree. I
won't recap the thread, but other
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 00:18 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Or maybe you could switch to Jython, and just use swing?
Man, c.l.py is getting *mean* ;)
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http://www.develix.com :: Web applications and hosting :: Linux, PostgreSQL and
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Mike Meyer wrote:
Exactly what problem are you trying to solve? If it's the one about
not having a standard GUI, I don't think it's a problem.
Me neither. You pointed out that having a standard distribution made by
some company would solve the non-standard GUI problem. I believe we share
the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
In practise any Python GUI is going to contain code from otyher
languages since if it was coded all the way down in python it would
be too slow.
Not necessarily. My window manger is Python all the way down - it uses
the Python Xlib implementation - and
Paul McNett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Windows and Mac, you download the package and run through the wizard.
Which package? I'm looking at the sourceforge download site, and don't
see any packages for Python 2.4 on OS X 10.4. In fact, I don't see any
packages for 10.4 at all. IIRC, they
Mike Meyer wrote:
Paul McNett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Windows and Mac, you download the package and run through the wizard.
Which package? I'm looking at the sourceforge download site, and don't
see any packages for Python 2.4 on OS X 10.4. In fact, I don't see any
packages for 10.4
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:51:13 +0200, Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallöchen!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
[...]
How about sometihing with the same API as Tkinter (so no need to
relearn), but which looks prettier? Would that fix your gripes?
I haven't learned Tkinter.
Hallöchen!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:51:13 +0200, Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
[...]
How about sometihing with the same API as Tkinter (so no need to
relearn), but which looks prettier? Would that fix
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 00:59 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
I don't particularly like Tkinter, but it seems to me that it's pretty
much won. It seems to be installed on every desktop platform along
with Python. That means that if I want to distribute GUI apps, I'm
going to cause the least headache
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 16:52 -0700, Bugs wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
But how stable is GTK on systems such as Windows and OS/X? That has
been what has kept me from using it. Most GTK apps I've used on Windows
(including the venerable GIMP) are nowhere near as stable as their Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
What you say Pythonic, what do you mean? And how do you rate
Tkinter, PyGtk, PyQt/PyKDE, wxWindows for Pythonicness?
Tkinter is not very Pythonic because it's sort of a Frankenstein
hybrid of Python and Tcl, but at least it's there and it more or less
Hallöchen!
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
The least headache for end users comes from properly packaging your
application. End users shouldn't need to worry about installing third
party packages (or even Python for that matter). Tools such as py2exe
and Inno installer make
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does py2exe work for all GUI libraries?
No, it's Windows-only.
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Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
application. End users shouldn't need to worry about installing third
party packages (or even Python for that matter). Tools such as py2exe
and Inno installer make this pretty simple on Windows, and py2app on
OS/X accomplishes the same. It should be
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 08:22:23 +0200, Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What you say Pythonic, what do you mean? And how do you rate
Tkinter, PyGtk, PyQt/PyKDE, wxWindows for Pythonicness?
I don't like to set arguments to -1 or NULL, but to None.
Fair enough
I'd like
to have
phil hunt wrote:
OK, hows this for an idea:
1. create a new API, loosely based on the Tkinter API, but more
Pythonic
2. implement Tk using this API (probably won't be difficult because
we can use Tkinter as a base)
3. Implement bindings to Gtk and Qt/KDE using this API.
Like PyGUI,
Hallöchen!
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does py2exe work for all GUI libraries?
No, it's Windows-only.
However, OS'es and GUI libraries are different axes in the space of
possibilities.
Tschö,
Torsten.
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Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does py2exe work for all GUI libraries?
No, it's Windows-only.
However, OS'es and GUI libraries are different axes in the space of
possibilities.
I'm not sure what you mean. Whatever GUI library the Mac uses, py2exe
doesn't work with it, since
Hallöchen!
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does py2exe work for all GUI libraries?
No, it's Windows-only.
However, OS'es and GUI libraries are different axes in the space
of possibilities.
I'm not sure what you mean.
I didn't ask
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does py2exe work for all GUI libraries?
No, it's Windows-only.
I didn't ask does it work with OSX but does it work with wxPython
or PyQt. py2exe only creates Windows files, that's right, but why
is this important here?
You asked whether it works
On Sunday 31 July 2005 01:02, phil hunt wrote:
You mightn't have, but I suspect more Python programers who've
written GUI apps have used Tkinter than any of the other APIs.
Not that I'm a particular fan of it, it's just I like
standardisation, because then you get network effects.
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