On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Prasad, Ramit
ramit.pra...@jpmorgan.com wrote:
Mark Janssen wrote:
But you see, there's the critical difference. First of all you're
making two errors in your comparison. Firstly, a *person* is saying
that she's going to *do something for you*. She's making
On 2013-04-12, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
Possibily, but don't accept this view of the legal system.
Judges can be quite reasonable. They don't want more time
taken for bullshit cases and would much prefer for things to be
settled (that is what their duty is -- to settle
Mark Janssen wrote:
It doesn't have to say so, if it's not charging any money -- there's no
expectation that you're getting anything at all!
Of course there is. If Oprah Winfrey stands up and publicly says that
she's giving you a car, FOR FREE, no strings attached, and then gives you
a
Neil Cerutti wrote:
On 2013-04-12, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
Possibily, but don't accept this view of the legal system.
Judges can be quite reasonable. They don't want more time
taken for bullshit cases and would much prefer for things to be
settled (that is what
On 04/08/2013 11:37 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote:
On 04/08/2013 07:16 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:11 -0700,
I'm not a lawyer, and I suspect you're not either. If a burglar climbs up
my trellis to try to attain a second floor window, and comes crashing to the
ground, he may very well successfully sue me for not having a warning sign.
No, I understand these cases are common lore, but it's this
We're /definitely/ on topic for this list.
Just saying.
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not a lawyer, and I suspect you're not either. If a burglar climbs up
my trellis to try to attain a second floor window, and comes crashing to the
On 04/09/2013 02:20 AM, Mark Janssen wrote:
I'm not a lawyer, and I suspect you're not either. If a burglar climbs up
my trellis to try to attain a second floor window, and comes crashing to the
ground, he may very well successfully sue me for not having a warning sign.
No, I understand these
On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:20:54 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote:
I'm not a lawyer, and I suspect you're not either. If a burglar climbs
up my trellis to try to attain a second floor window, and comes
crashing to the ground, he may very well successfully sue me for not
having a warning sign.
No, I
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
In the case of free (libre) open source
software, such a case would have no merit, because such software never
promises anyone *anything*.
If that is the case, it's because the software license explicitly says
so -
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com
wrote:
In the case of free (libre) open source
software, such a case would have no merit, because such software never
promises anyone *anything*.
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com
wrote:
In the case of free (libre) open source
software, such a case
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 00:20:27 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Mark Janssen
dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
In the case of free (libre) open source software, such a case would
have no merit,
Where do YOU come up with the idea that you can't be sued if money
didn't change hands? In what jurisdiction is that true? Unless it's
true in every jurisdiction that the internet touches, I wouldn't trust
it to protect me.
I know, the legal system has us all under their thumbs. If I hand
It doesn't have to say so, if it's not charging any money -- there's no
expectation that you're getting anything at all!
Of course there is. If Oprah Winfrey stands up and publicly says that
she's giving you a car, FOR FREE, no strings attached, and then gives you
a piece of old bubblegum,
I'm not a lawyer, and I suspect you're not either.
By the way, here's where part of the problem stems, right here. This
notion of that you have to be a lawyer -- as if their some other race
or something. Lawyers are people, that have been trained into a
historical system of conventions. That
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 00:39:21 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote:
Where do YOU come up with the idea that you can't be sued if money
didn't change hands? In what jurisdiction is that true? Unless it's
true in every jurisdiction that the internet touches, I wouldn't trust
it to protect me.
I know,
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 01:15:04 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote:
I'm not a lawyer, and I suspect you're not either.
By the way, here's where part of the problem stems, right here. This
notion of that you have to be a lawyer -- as if their some other race or
something.
You wouldn't go to a lawyer
By the way, here's where part of the problem stems, right here. This
notion of that you have to be a lawyer -- as if their some other race or
something.
You wouldn't go to a lawyer for advice on the best way to program. You
wouldn't go to a car mechanic to ask for the best way to set a
Where do YOU come up with the idea that you can't be sued if money
didn't change hands? In what jurisdiction is that true? Unless it's
true in every jurisdiction that the internet touches, I wouldn't trust
it to protect me.
I know, the legal system has us all under their thumbs. If I hand
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 01:02:14 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote:
It doesn't have to say so, if it's not charging any money -- there's
no expectation that you're getting anything at all!
Of course there is. If Oprah Winfrey stands up and publicly says that
she's giving you a car, FOR FREE, no strings
On 04/09/2013 05:00 AM, Mark Janssen wrote:
By the way, here's where part of the problem stems, right here. This
notion of that you have to be a lawyer -- as if their some other race or
something.
You wouldn't go to a lawyer for advice on the best way to program. You
wouldn't go to a car
And by putting it online for free download, IN THE ABSENCE OF AN EXPLICIT
DISCLAIMER, you are implying that it is fit for its purpose, and that you
have a duty of care to make sure that it does do what you say it does.
No, there is no requirement for a disclaimer. In the US, what is not
Lots of obvious generalizations out there which are wrong, at least some of
the time.
You know, Dave funny thing is, right there is one of them.
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
If you want tin foil hats, though,
you'll have to notice what's right in front of your face -- you
already have voodoo right on your currency that YOU have accepted.
Egyptian pyramids on the U.S. dollar? All seeing
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you want tin foil hats, though,
you'll have to notice what's
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you want tin foil hats, though,
you'll have to notice what's right in front of your face -- you
already have voodoo right on your currency
I just put out a new version of im.py on GitHub. You can find it
here:
https://github.com/jhunter-d/im.py/blob/master/im.py
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On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:40:24 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you want tin foil hats, though,
you'll have to notice what's right in front of your face -- you already
have voodoo right on your currency that YOU have
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 02:29:43 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote:
Well, out here in the good ol' USA, there no duty of care
That explains a lot.
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:40:24 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
I'm sorry, I'm somewhat lost here. The dollar I have here has a mob of
animals on one side and someone's face on the other - no pyramids, no
On 2013-04-09, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
Where do YOU come up with the idea that you can't be sued if money
didn't change hands? In what jurisdiction is that true? Unless it's
true in every jurisdiction that the internet touches, I wouldn't trust
it to protect me.
I know,
On 2013-04-09, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
Where do YOU come up with the idea that you can't be sued if money
didn't change hands? In what jurisdiction is that true? Unless it's
true in every jurisdiction that the internet touches, I wouldn't trust
it to protect me.
I know,
On 09/04/2013 08:21, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
In the case of free
Are there that many people in the country who have no clue how the
legal system works?
Gads. I'm trying to show you how the legal system *doesn't* work.
All your points may be valid under court history, but that history is
tainted. It doesn't mean the system is working, only that cases have
On Apr 7, 6:36 pm, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:11 -0700, jhunter.dunefsky wrote:
Actually, my current licence can be found here:
https://github.com/jhunter-d/im.py/blob/master/LICENCE. Whaddaya think
about this, Useneters?
I think
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:11 -0700, jhunter.dunefsky wrote:
Actually, my current licence can be found here:
https://github.com/jhunter-d/im.py/blob/master/LICENCE. Whaddaya think
about this,
On 04/08/2013 07:16 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:11 -0700, jhunter.dunefsky wrote:
Actually, my current licence can be found here:
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote:
On 04/08/2013 07:16 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:11 -0700, jhunter.dunefsky wrote:
Actually, my current
Andrew Berg bahamutzero8...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013.04.05 20:07, Roy Smith wrote:
I know this is off-topic, but I encourage people to NOT invent their own
licenses.
Perhaps he meant this existing license: http://www.wtfpl.net/about/
I like the Python Powered Logo license by Just van Rossum
On Sunday, April 7, 2013 4:59:10 AM UTC-4,
garabik-ne...@kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk wrote:
Andrew Berg bahamutzero8...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013.04.05 20:07, Roy Smith wrote:
I know this is off-topic, but I encourage people to NOT invent their own
licenses.
Perhaps he meant this
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:11 -0700, jhunter.dunefsky wrote:
Actually, my current licence can be found here:
https://github.com/jhunter-d/im.py/blob/master/LICENCE. Whaddaya think
about this, Useneters?
I think you're looking for a world of pain, when somebody uses your
software, it breaks
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:11 -0700, jhunter.dunefsky wrote:
Actually, my current licence can be found here:
https://github.com/jhunter-d/im.py/blob/master/LICENCE. Whaddaya think
about this,
On Apr 5, 9:26 pm, Andrew Berg bahamutzero8...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013.04.05 20:07, Roy Smith wrote: I know this is off-topic, but I
encourage people to NOT invent their own
licenses.
Perhaps he meant this existing license:http://www.wtfpl.net/about/
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On Apr 5, 8:52 pm, Demian Brecht demianbre...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for sharing some of your work with the community. However...
Speaking to the sharing aspect: Why would you post a block of code in an
email? If you're looking for people to contribute, it would likely be a
much better idea
Hey Usenetites!
I have a horrible Python program to allow two people to chat with each
other. It has horribly any functionality, but it is meant for the
public to work on, not necessarily me. Anyways, here's a quick FAQ.
What does this do that IRC can't? What does this do that AIM can't?
--It
Thanks for sharing some of your work with the community. However...
Speaking to the sharing aspect: Why would you post a block of code in an
email? If you're looking for people to contribute, it would likely be a
much better idea to post it on github (which was built for collaborative
work).
As
In article
bc3d27b1-fdf6-4931-bf11-38ac36a0f...@cd3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com,
Jake D jhunter.dunef...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the licence?
--It's released under a special FOSS licence. Here it is:
You can do whatever you want with this program.
I know this is off-topic, but I
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
In article
bc3d27b1-fdf6-4931-bf11-38ac36a0f...@cd3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com,
Jake D jhunter.dunef...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the licence?
--It's released under a special FOSS licence. Here it is:
You can do whatever you
On 2013.04.05 20:07, Roy Smith wrote:
I know this is off-topic, but I encourage people to NOT invent their own
licenses.
Perhaps he meant this existing license: http://www.wtfpl.net/about/
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