date:20100619


On 19/06/2010 11:36, Stefan Behnel wrote:

Mark Lawrence, 18.06.2010 17:53:

... *AND* (looking at your email address) Germany loosing in the world
cup. :(


Yep, we always do that once at the early stages of a world cup. Pretty
good camouflage, still works most of the time.

Stefan



Yes, but trying to be fair the Spanish referee for your game was crap. 
England had no excuses what so ever for their pathetic performance last 
night, unless they were trying to emulate your camouflage.  The only 
good thing about it is that I have an excuse to go out and drown my 
sorrows. :)


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Re: scraping from bundes-telefonbuch.de with python

2010-06-19 Thread Rebelo

On 19 lip, 12:23, davidgp davidvanijzendo...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello, i'm new on this group, and quiet new to python!
 i'm trying to scrap some adress data from bundes-telefonbuch.de but i
 run into a problem:
 the link is like 
 this:http://www.bundes-telefonbuch.de/cgi-btbneu/chtml/chtml?WA=20
 and it is basically the same for every search query.
 thus i need to submit post data to the webserver, i try to do this
 like this:

 opener = urllib2.build_opener()
 opener.addheaders = [('User-Agent', 'Mozilla/5.0 (compatible;
 Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.4 (like Gecko)')]
 urllib2.install_opener(opener)

 data = urllib.urlencode({'F0': 'mySearchKeyword','B': 'T','F8': 'A ||
 G','W': '1','Z': '0','HA': '10','SAS_static_0_treffer_treffer': 'Suche
 starten','S': '1','translationtemplate': 'checkstrasse'})

 url = 'http://www.bundes-telefonbuch.de/cgi-btbneu/chtml/chtml?WA=20'
 response = urllib2.urlopen(url, data)

 this returns a page saying i have to reenter my search terms..
 what's going wrong here?

 Thanks!!

Try mechanize : http://wwwsearch.sourceforge.net/mechanize/

import mechanize
response = mechanize.urlopen(http://www.bundes-telefonbuch.de/;)
forms = mechanize.ParseResponse(response, backwards_compat=False)
form = forms[0]
form[F0] = query #enter query
html =  mechanize.urlopen(form.click()).read()
f = open(tmp.html,w)
f.writelines(html)
f.close()

Or you can try to parse response but I think that their HTML is not
valid
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Re: catching my own exception

2010-06-19 Thread Nikola Skoric

Dana Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:01:45 +0200, 
Peter Otten __pete...@web.de kaze:
 Solution: move your startup code into a separate file and have it import the 
 village module.

Excellent, thanks! Everything works now, but I still don't quite get what the 
problem is...

 You are importing your main script elswhere. Your code then 
 effectively becomes

 try:
 # in another module
 raise village.SomethingBuiltError 
 except __main__.SomethingBeingBuiltError:
print caught

 i. e. you get two versions of every class that are built from the same code 
 but not (recognized as) identical.

What I don't get is: what do you mean I'm importing my main script
elsewhere by runing python village.py? SomethingBuiltError is
defined in the same script that I'm runing, I didn't import it, did I?
If you could please clear it up for me... or point me to relevant
literature, that's also cool, I couldn't find this thing explained
anywhere.

Anyway, thanks for the solution!

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Re: catching my own exception

2010-06-19 Thread Nikola Skoric

Dana 18 Jun 2010 17:45:31 GMT, 
Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au kaze:
 Other than that, I notice that your module throws away useful debugging 
 information, and replaces it with bland, useless pap of no nutritional 
 value:

 try:
 import account, fetch, resources, const
 except Exception:
 raise Exception('One or more travapi modules not available.')

Oh, yes, thanks for pointing that out, that was a dirty hack for
solving some error I was getting with pydoc. I'll remove that, thanks
for pointing that out.

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Re: scraping from bundes-telefonbuch.de with python

2010-06-19 Thread Michael Torrie

On 06/19/2010 04:23 AM, davidgp wrote:
 opener = urllib2.build_opener()
 opener.addheaders = [('User-Agent', 'Mozilla/5.0 (compatible;
 Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.4 (like Gecko)')]
 urllib2.install_opener(opener)
 
 data = urllib.urlencode({'F0': 'mySearchKeyword','B': 'T','F8': 'A ||
 G','W': '1','Z': '0','HA': '10','SAS_static_0_treffer_treffer': 'Suche
 starten','S': '1','translationtemplate': 'checkstrasse'})
 
 url = 'http://www.bundes-telefonbuch.de/cgi-btbneu/chtml/chtml?WA=20'
 response = urllib2.urlopen(url, data)
 
 this returns a page saying i have to reenter my search terms..
 what's going wrong here?

Most likely you need a cookie.  You'll probably have to set up a cookie
store for use with urllib2, then request the page that the search form
is on so that the cookie is generated, and then make your post with your
search terms.
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Re: Help with suds: HTTP Error 401

2010-06-19 Thread Sean DiZazzo

On Jun 11, 5:27 am, Eric von Horst z80vsvi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I have small program that tries to open a wsdl. When I execute the
 program I am getting 'suds.transport.TransportError: HTTP Error 401:
 Unauthorized'

Hey Eric,

Im a suds noob as well.  I found some code that led me to the below
example.  It worked for me when connecting to one particular site.  I
couldnt tell you why though...  I guess its worth a shot.

from suds.transport.https import HttpAuthenticated
import urllib2

t = HttpAuthenticated(username='me', password='password')
t.handler = urllib2.HTTPBasicAuthHandler(t.pm)
t.urlopener =  urllib2.build_opener(t.handler)
c = client.Client(url='http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/path/to?
WSDL',transport=t)

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Re: 500 tracker orphans; we need more reviewers


On 19/06/2010 03:37, Terry Reedy wrote:

Go to the bottom of
http://bugs.python.org/iss...@template=searchstatus=1
enter 1 in the Message Count box and hit Search.

At the moment, this gets 510 hits. Some have had headers updated, nearly
half have had a person add himself as 'nosy' (put 1 in the Nosy count
box to count those that have not), but none have a written response.

In the past two weeks, I have commented on some old orphans and gotten a
couple of previously orphaned patches applied and the issue closed. But
I am not prepared to spend my whole life on this ;=).

We need more issue reviewers.
Clearly.
If you want to contibute, opportunity is here.
With 500 orphans, and 2200 other open issues,
there must be something that matches your interests and abilities.
Use other search fields to narrow the choices.

If you want to contibute to the tracker, this may help:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDocs/
Then read examples of comments already there.

Or consider my first-response comment to
http://bugs.python.org/issue8990

To write that, I

* verified the reported behavior, though I forgot to explicitly say so;
when doing so, include version and system (such as 3.1.2, WinXP), as
that is sometimes helpful.

* read the relevant doc section and pasted it in to establish a basis
for discussion (the OP might have done that, but did not, so I did).

Everyone reading this should at least be able to do this much for an
issue like this, and this much *is* helpful.

* compared behavior and doc and concluded that there is a bug.

* read the posted patch as best I could, which is not much in this case,
but it at least looked like a real diff file.

* noticed that the diff did *not* patch the appropriate unit test file.

* discussed two possible fixes and identified which the OP choose.

* wrote an 'executive summary' both for the OP and future reviewers.

Oh yes, I also adjusted the headers. Although new reviewers cannot do
that, you *can* suggest in the message what changes to make.

Special offer to readers of this thread, especially new reviewers:
if you make such a suggestion, you may email me, subject: Tracker, with
one clickable link like the above, cut and pasted from the browser URL
box, per line of the message.

Perhaps you are shy and uncomfortable saying much. Well so was I. I
started about 5 years ago with *safe* comments and have s l o w l y
expanded my comfort zone. The shock of discovering this week that there
are 500 orphans, some 2 years old, expanded it. After no response for a
year or two, even an imperfect response must be better than nothing.

While there is occasional negativity on the tracker, I believe it
averages less per message than python-list, which itself is pretty decent.

Terry Jan Reedy



Ok, but I'm going for EAFP rather than LBYL.  I have written a will. :)

Kindest regards.

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If Not CGI...

2010-06-19 Thread Victor Subervi

Hi;
I've caught a lot of flack (imagine that) about using CGI. I understand
there are several other options, to wit: mod_python, fastcgi and wcgi. I've
messed around with mod_python without luck. What are your suggestions?
TIA.
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Re: If Not CGI...

2010-06-19 Thread Stephen Hansen

On 6/19/10 10:31 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:
 Hi;
 I've caught a lot of flack (imagine that) about using CGI. I understand
 there are several other options, to wit: mod_python, fastcgi and wcgi. I've
 messed around with mod_python without luck. What are your suggestions?

Its a slightly complicated question.

First of all, it is not absolutely *wrong* to use CGI. Its just simply
decades out of date, slow, and has certain problems.

Primarily, that one must start Python for each and every request. That
adds up: that adds up a LOT over time.

The solution to all of these are various methods to run Python once,
and keep it running and loaded, and simply call into it (i.e., execute
some function you've defined) for those requests that need to be dynamic.

mod_python accomplishes this by embedding Python into Apache directly.
After you set it all up, there's various ways you can access it. The
simplest is the publisher handler. With it, you can 'call' a Python
function by linking to, say, /myform.py/view -- it'll call the 'view'
function in 'myform.py'.

With it, check out
http://www.modpython.org/live/current/doc-html/tutorial.html

without luck is a worthless statement to make, so I can't comment on it.

But with mod_python, you wouldn't just be running it and then running
your existing code as-is. The interface between the web server and your
code is different in it, so you'll have to reorganize some stuff.

FastCGI is a different kind of approach to the problem; it launches
Python alongside Apache, and that Python stays alive forever. It just
redirects requests to said process when they come in. I know very little
about this model, but believe its meant to sort of mimic a CGI
environment so you can sort of migrate to it easier, but I'm not
entirely sure. So I can't comment on this directly, but
http://docs.python.org/howto/webservers.html seems interesting (Though
it speaks of ALL of these options, so is a good read anyways)

Then there's mod_wsgi; this is like mod_python, but approaches the
problem differently, with a bit more formal structure with an eye for
interoperability. It implements the Web Server Gateway Interface
specification, and lets you easily load up wsgi apps and wsgi
frameworks which are a very, very nifty way to write modern web
applications.

But the thing is: a WSGI web application looks and is shaped nothing
like a CGI application. They're awesome. Btu different. Writing a WSGI
app from scratch without a framework is possible, but it seems like a
terribly painful thing to go about doing.

Instead, most people who are writing modern Python web applications, use
some sort of framework.

Django is one of the most popular. I like it. But I prefer pylons-- its
a little more low level, and that suits me. There's also TurboGears,
webpy, and on and on and on.

The cool thing about WSGI applications is that they are stacks;
there's a lot of middleware that can sit between the server and your
end-application. You can add features and functionality and capabilities
to your app just by adding another piece of middleware.

For example, do you want to store state about what a user is doing? The
things in their shopping cart, for example? A really, really elegant way
is to use a session middleware -- Beaker for instance. It creates a
unique session key, and sets it on the user's cookies. In your web
application now, you can associate any kind of data you'd like with that
key. And you can even remember stuff about that user if they return to
your app later.

Now, you could do that all by hand-- but its painful, and doing it right
is not trivial.

My suggestion? I can't really give you one. You're in the middle of a
project. Doing it right from this point is basically a rewrite --
though it may not take as long as you suspect, if you use something like
Django which is -very- easy.

So maybe my suggestion is for now, to figure out what's wrong with
mod_python for you. It works just fine.

But then when this project is over, sit down and load up Django (or
another of the options: look around, find one that tickles you), and
spend a few days re-doing this project in that. Not for real, but for
practice, to figure out how you'd do it in a proper framework. See how
you like it. See how it works.

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to write better code. Including some encapsulation and classes and such.
Which is not to say that procedural programming is /wrong/, but, for a
lot of things, mixing in at least a little bit of OOP (even if you do
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D-CM; Software Testers

2010-06-19 Thread Kruptein

Okay so I just released the 0.2-alpha version of my project and I'm
looking for people that would like to test it.

It is written in python with the wxpython gui bindings  and is aimed
to help developers.

You can find more info on launchpad: http://launchpad.net/d-cm
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Is this make sence? Dynamic assembler for python

2010-06-19 Thread DivX

I found on the forum some discussion about crypting text and one guy
did make assembly implementation of crypting algorithm. He dynamically
generates mashine code and call that from python. Here are impressive
results http://www.daniweb.com/code/snippet216632-5.html

Is this better approach then writing extensions in c?
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Re: If Not CGI...

2010-06-19 Thread Tim Chase


I've caught a lot of flack (imagine that) about using CGI.


The main reason is that CGI has the overhead of loading  
unloading the Python interpreter on every request.  The other 
methods load the Python interpreter once (or a small, 
fixed-number of times), then handle lots of requests from that 
process (or pool of processes), and then optionally unload if 
server-load drops.


However CGI is old and fairly entrenched, so it's easy to find 
with cheap hosting services -- what do they care if your site is 
slow?



I understand there are several other options, to wit:
mod_python, fastcgi and wcgi. I've messed around with
mod_python without luck. What are your suggestions?


Generally, one writes to a framework (Django[1], web.py[2], 
TurboGears[3], CherryPy[4], etc) that either has a 
preferred/suggested method of interface, or allows you to plug 
into [m]any of the items you list.  I know Django is happy with 
mod_python and wsgi (and I suspect fastcgi, but I'll let you 
google that).  YMMV with the others.  I've even seen an 
abomination of a hack that ran Django under CGI (whie, is the 
performance bad!).  I think the general direction of the Python 
web-world seems to be moving toward WSGI (and Graham Dumpleton's 
work on mod_wsgi[5]; IIUC, he was heavily involved in the initial 
mod_python) instead of mod_python.


Since you seem fairly adamant about *not* using a framework and 
cobbling together the universe from the ground up, you might look 
into Paul Boddie's WebStack[6] which abstracts away a number of 
the main interfaces into a common interface.  Kindly, his work 
even allows you to plug into a CGI interface since that's what 
you're familiar with, and then shift to a different interface.


-tkc


[1]
http://djangoproject.com

[2]
http://turbogears.org

[3]
http://webpy.org

[4]
http://www.cherrypy.org

[5]
http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/

[6]
http://www.boddie.org.uk/python/WebStack.html






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Re: D-CM; Software Testers

2010-06-19 Thread Stephen Hansen

On 6/19/10 11:16 AM, Kruptein wrote:
 Okay so I just released the 0.2-alpha version of my project and I'm
 looking for people that would like to test it.
 
 It is written in python with the wxpython gui bindings  and is aimed
 to help developers.
 
 You can find more info on launchpad: http://launchpad.net/d-cm

What does it *do*?

The LP page is vague, all those apps, then you're talking about
various vague statements of Stuff Doing Stuff Together.

But *what* is the stuff? The home page link on the LP page goes
somewhere weird.

So yeah. What's it *do*? I don't like downloading software until I have
an idea of what its for :)

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Re: Is this make sence? Dynamic assembler for python

2010-06-19 Thread geremy condra

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, DivX sem.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 I found on the forum some discussion about crypting text and one guy
 did make assembly implementation of crypting algorithm. He dynamically
 generates mashine code and call that from python. Here are impressive
 results http://www.daniweb.com/code/snippet216632-5.html

 Is this better approach then writing extensions in c?

No, xor cipher is not suitable for general purpose encryption, and what do you
need the speed for? xor is almost certainly not going to be the bottleneck in
your application.

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Re: Overriding setattr of a module - possible?

2010-06-19 Thread Fuzzyman

On Jun 18, 5:25 am, Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar
wrote:
 En Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:12:23 -0300, Fuzzyman fuzzy...@gmail.com escribiï¿½:

  On Jun 17, 10:29 am, Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar
  wrote:
  En Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:52:48 -0300, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no  
  escribiï¿½:

   But who would have thunk that Python *isn't dynamic enough*? :-)

  Yep... There are other examples too (e.g. the print statement in 2.x  
  bypasses sys.stdout.write;

  What do you mean by this? The print statement in 2.x does *not* bypass
  sys.stdout. It may use other methods besides write (writeln perhaps)
  but you can *definitely* override sys.stdout to capture the output
  from print statements.

 Suppose you want to implement a tee variant in Python: print output
 should go to stdout and also to some file (with timestamp added, just to
 be fancy). First attempt:

 py import sys
 py import time
 py
 py class tee(file):
 ...   def write(self, data):
 ...     file.write(self, '%s: %r\n' % (time.ctime(), data))
 ...     sys.__stdout__.write(data)
 ...
 py sys.stdout = tee('test.txt', 'w')
 py print Hello world
 py print Bye
 py ^Z

 D:\TEMPtype test.txt
 Hello world
 Bye

 Note:
 - no output to stdout inside the interpreter
 - no timestamp in the file

 This modified version works fine:

 py class tee():
 ...   def __init__(self, filename, mode):
 ...     self.file = open(filename, mode)
 ...   def write(self, data):
 ...     self.file.write('%s: %r\n' % (time.ctime(), data))
 ...     sys.__stdout__.write(data)

 What happened? When sys.stdout is an instance of some class inheriting
    from file (that is, isinstance(sys.stdout, file) is true) then the print
 statement ignores sys.stdout.write() completely -- instead it calls
 directly some C stdio functions (fwrite).
 The only way to influence 'print' is *not* to inherit from file in the
 first place.

 It's an optimization, sure.  I guess it is there before inheriting from
 builtin types was allowed (in such scenario, it's a perfectly valid
 optimization).  Now, perhaps the test for 'file' should be more strict,
 only taking the C shortcut when using an actual file instance, not a
 subclass of it.  This would allow the example above to work correctly.



Ah, so by bypasses you mean under certain specific circumstances
bypasses.  By all means file a bug report on this, I agree that
bypassing the optimization for file subclasses (assuming your
diagnosis is correct) would be a sensible approach.

All the best,

Michael


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Re: Is this make sence? Dynamic assembler for python

2010-06-19 Thread DivX

On 19 lip, 21:18, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, DivX sem.r...@gmail.com wrote:
  I found on the forum some discussion about crypting text and one guy
  did make assembly implementation of crypting algorithm. He dynamically
  generates mashine code and call that from python. Here are impressive
  resultshttp://www.daniweb.com/code/snippet216632-5.html

  Is this better approach then writing extensions in c?

 No, xor cipher is not suitable for general purpose encryption, and what do you
 need the speed for? xor is almost certainly not going to be the bottleneck in
 your application.

 Geremy Condra

Just asking if this approach is good for example quicksort algoriths
or some kind of sorting algorithms, or simulations but the point is of
mixing python and assembler?
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Re: exceptions and unicode

2010-06-19 Thread Stuart McGraw

On 06/16/2010 03:53 PM, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
 So how do I get what I want?
 
 Submit a patch. You would have to explain why this is a bug fix and not 
 a new feature, as new features are not allowed anymore for 2.x.

Thanks.  Actually I have no idea if this is a bug or a feature 
(despite reading bug tracker issues 2517 and 6108, most of which
I did not understand) so I'm not in a position to argue either.  
What I think I'll do is note in my documentation that the unreadable
error messages are from Python and are only temporary for a couple 
years until the app can move to Python 3. 
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Re: exceptions and unicode

2010-06-19 Thread Stuart McGraw

On 06/16/2010 03:51 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
 On 06/16/2010 10:10 PM, Stuart McGraw wrote:
 Note that the exceptions may be anything (I just used IOError 
 as an example) and are generated in bowels of an API that I 
 can't/won't mess with.
 
 Yeah, well, you'd have to special-case every single exception type that
 gets unicode arguments, as they probably all treat them in the same
 ungrateful way.

Unfortunate.  In general it does not seem possible to know what 
exceptions could be generated (they could be custom exceptions 
defined in the api) without examining all the code. 

Seems like I'll have to live with it or try some grotesque hack 
like looking for a repr-of-a-unicode-string-like text and converting
back to unicode.

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Re: 500 tracker orphans; we need more reviewers

Terry: Thanks for bringing this to notice.
Mark: Kudos for your effort in cleaning up bugs.python.org

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 On 19/06/2010 03:37, Terry Reedy wrote:

 Go to the bottom of
 http://bugs.python.org/iss...@template=searchstatus=1
 enter 1 in the Message Count box and hit Search.

 At the moment, this gets 510 hits. Some have had headers updated, nearly
 half have had a person add himself as 'nosy' (put 1 in the Nosy count
 box to count those that have not), but none have a written response.

 In the past two weeks, I have commented on some old orphans and gotten a
 couple of previously orphaned patches applied and the issue closed. But
 I am not prepared to spend my whole life on this ;=).

 We need more issue reviewers.
 Clearly.
 If you want to contibute, opportunity is here.
 With 500 orphans, and 2200 other open issues,
 there must be something that matches your interests and abilities.
 Use other search fields to narrow the choices.

 If you want to contibute to the tracker, this may help:
 http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDocs/
 Then read examples of comments already there.

 Or consider my first-response comment to
 http://bugs.python.org/issue8990

 To write that, I

 * verified the reported behavior, though I forgot to explicitly say so;
 when doing so, include version and system (such as 3.1.2, WinXP), as
 that is sometimes helpful.

 * read the relevant doc section and pasted it in to establish a basis
 for discussion (the OP might have done that, but did not, so I did).

 Everyone reading this should at least be able to do this much for an
 issue like this, and this much *is* helpful.

 * compared behavior and doc and concluded that there is a bug.

 * read the posted patch as best I could, which is not much in this case,
 but it at least looked like a real diff file.

 * noticed that the diff did *not* patch the appropriate unit test file.

 * discussed two possible fixes and identified which the OP choose.

 * wrote an 'executive summary' both for the OP and future reviewers.

 Oh yes, I also adjusted the headers. Although new reviewers cannot do
 that, you *can* suggest in the message what changes to make.

 Special offer to readers of this thread, especially new reviewers:
 if you make such a suggestion, you may email me, subject: Tracker, with
 one clickable link like the above, cut and pasted from the browser URL
 box, per line of the message.

 Perhaps you are shy and uncomfortable saying much. Well so was I. I
 started about 5 years ago with *safe* comments and have s l o w l y
 expanded my comfort zone. The shock of discovering this week that there
 are 500 orphans, some 2 years old, expanded it. After no response for a
 year or two, even an imperfect response must be better than nothing.

 While there is occasional negativity on the tracker, I believe it
 averages less per message than python-list, which itself is pretty decent.

 Terry Jan Reedy


 Ok, but I'm going for EAFP rather than LBYL.  I have written a will. :)

 Kindest regards.

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Re: MySQLdb and bits

2010-06-19 Thread voidnothings

On Jun 13, 5:52 am, Dafydd Hughes dafyd...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there

This is my first post to the list - please forgive me if this has been
addressed elsewhere.

I'm running MySQL 32-bit in Snow Leopard, and had MySQLdb working well.
I switched to 64-bit, rebuilt MySQLdb, and again it worked fine within
Python, but had to switch back to 32 bit - I'm using a wrapper for
Python within Pure Data, and it forces Python to 32-bit.

So back to 32-bit. It works fine wrapped in Pd, but if I try import
MySQLdb from the terminal, I get:

import MySQLdb
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
File build/bdist.macosx-10.6-fat/egg/MySQLdb/__init__.py, line 19,
in module
File build/bdist.macosx-10.6-fat/egg/_mysql.py, line 7, in module
File build/bdist.macosx-10.6-fat/egg/_mysql.py, line 6, in
__bootstrap__
ImportError:
dlopen(/Users/dafydd/.python-eggs/MySQL_python-1.2.3c1-py2.6-macosx-10.6-fat.egg-tmp/_mysql.so,
2): no suitable image found. Did find:

/Users/dafydd/.python-eggs/MySQL_python-1.2.3c1-py2.6-macosx-10.6-fat.egg-tmp/_mysql.so:
mach-o, but wrong architecture

Is there a solution to this? I assume this is happening because Python's
trying to work 64-bit but MySQLdb was built 32. Am I way off base?

Thanks for any help.

cheers
dafydd

I got the same problem though in a different scenario. I'm trying to
setup my local django environment here and mysql_python fails on me.
Same ...mach-o, but wrong architecture message. Anyone?
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Re: Is this make sence? Dynamic assembler for python

2010-06-19 Thread Steven D'Aprano

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:36:57 -0700, DivX wrote:

 On 19 lip, 21:18, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, DivX sem.r...@gmail.com wrote:
  I found on the forum some discussion about crypting text and one guy
  did make assembly implementation of crypting algorithm. He
  dynamically generates mashine code and call that from python. Here
  are impressive
  resultshttp://www.daniweb.com/code/snippet216632-5.html

  Is this better approach then writing extensions in c?

 No, xor cipher is not suitable for general purpose encryption, and what
 do you need the speed for? xor is almost certainly not going to be the
 bottleneck in your application.

 Geremy Condra
 
 Just asking if this approach is good for example quicksort algoriths or
 some kind of sorting algorithms, or simulations but the point is of
 mixing python and assembler?


Ask yourself, why aren't programs written in assembly if it's so good?

(1) It's platform dependent. Do you really need a separate program for 
every single hardware platform you want to run Quicksort on?

(2) Writing assembler is hard, really hard. And even harder to debug.

(3) Modern C compilers can produce better (faster, more efficient) 
machine code than the best assembly code written by hand.


Honestly, this question has been resolved twenty years ago -- thirty 
years ago, maybe there was still a good point in writing general purpose 
code in assembly, but now? It's just showing off. Unless you're writing 
hardware specific code (e.g. device drivers) it is pointless, in my 
opinion.

I think that mixing assembly and python is a gimmick of very little 
practical significance. If you really need the extra performance, check 
out PyPy, Cython, Pyrex and Psyco.



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Re: Is this make sence? Dynamic assembler for python

2010-06-19 Thread Terry Reedy


On 6/19/2010 2:53 PM, DivX wrote:

I found on the forum some discussion about crypting text and one guy
did make assembly implementation of crypting algorithm. He dynamically
generates mashine code and call that from python. Here are impressive
results http://www.daniweb.com/code/snippet216632-5.html

Is this better approach then writing extensions in c?


You have to define 'better'. This approach requires someone to write 
template assembler code, which will be machine specific. To be faster 
than compiled C on a particular machine, one must be pretty good at 
assemblee also.


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Re: introducing Lettuce, BDD tool for python with Django integration

2010-06-19 Thread Gregory Ewing


Steven D'Aprano wrote:

I assume the one you're talking about is Behaviour Driven 
Development. Wikipedia defines it as:


BDD is a second-generation, outside-in, pull-based, 
multiple-stakeholder, multiple-scale, high-automation, 
agile methodology. It describes a cycle of interactions 
with well-defined outputs, resulting in the delivery of 
working, tested software that matters.


Oh, my goodness. My buzzword-density meter just flew off the
scale. Approach with caution -- the bogon flux may be lethal.

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Re: C interpreter in Lisp/scheme/python

2010-06-19 Thread Tim Rentsch

nanothermite911fbibustards nanothermite911fbibusta...@gmail.com
writes:

 Probably doesn't meet your intent, but this is a really impressive bit
 of (whacky) art:

 Lisp runs faster than C. Once you get more time away from screwing
 Palestinians, and other false-flags, you will find ideas like these

 How to make Lisp go faster than C
 Didier Verna
 [snip]

Asking whether Lisp is faster than C is like asking why it's
colder in the mountains than it is in the summer.
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Installing or adding python dev installed python.

2010-06-19 Thread Vincent Davis

I have several versions of python installed and some I have built from
source which seems to install the python-dev on osx. I know that on
ubuntu python-dev is an optional install. The main python version I
use is the enthought distribution. Can I install the python-dev tools
with this? How. It there a good place for me to better understand what
python-dev is and how to get it installed on osx?

Thanks
Vincent
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Re: Installing or adding python dev installed python.

2010-06-19 Thread Robert Kern


On 6/19/10 9:49 PM, Vincent Davis wrote:

I have several versions of python installed and some I have built from
source which seems to install the python-dev on osx. I know that on
ubuntu python-dev is an optional install. The main python version I
use is the enthought distribution. Can I install the python-dev tools
with this? How. It there a good place for me to better understand what
python-dev is and how to get it installed on osx?


Question specifically about the Enthought Python Distribution should be directed 
to the epd-users mailing list:


  https://mail.enthought.com/mailman/listinfo/epd-users

However, to answer your question, there is no equivalent of a python-dev package 
for EPD or any of the Python distributions on OS X that I am aware of. All of 
them come with the necessary headers. On Linux distributions, Python 
installations are typically divided up into several packages; the python-dev(el) 
packages typically contain the header files and maybe a few other things for 
people building Python packages and extensions.


I suspect that you are asking this question because you are trying to build 
numpy and getting our message that says something along the lines of I cannot 
find Python.h; please install the python-dev package. There is something else 
wrong with your environment. Please ask for help on either numpy-discussion or 
epd-users. Tell us exactly what you are doing and exactly the output you are 
getting (i.e., copy and paste your terminal session). If you have any relevant 
environment variables set for some reason (CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, etc.) please let us 
know.


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[issue5639] Support TLS SNI extension in ssl module

2010-06-19 Thread Scott Tsai


Changes by Scott Tsai scottt...@gmail.com:


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[issue9009] Improve quality of Python/dtoa.c

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Dickinson


Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:

r82080: Whitespace fixes.
r82081: In strtod, simplify the computation of the initial approximation.
r82082: Fix typo introduced in r82025 (I think);  this was preventing
   a shortcut from being taken.

r82087: Simplify the ratio function.  The previous ratio function (actually, 
b2d), aborted if the numerator was zero, and the current code ends up requiring 
special cases for zero as a result of this.  That restriction is now removed, 
which will allow further simplifications (to come) in strtod.

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[issue9009] Improve quality of Python/dtoa.c

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Dickinson


Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:

Patch that does a fairly significant rewrite of strtod;  it's still (mostly) 
based on Gay's code, but there are some significant changes.

Some background:  strtod, after dealing with easy cases, works roughly as 
follows:

(1) Using floating-point arithmetic, create a double *rv* holding an 
approximation to the input value; this approximation may be out from the true 
value by several ulps (perhaps as much as 10 ulps;  certainly not more than 100 
ulps).

(2) If the input string is very long, truncate it (accepting that this 
introduces a small error), and work with the truncated value below.

(3) Use integer arithmetic to compute (an approximation to) ulps difference 
between *rv* and true value.  Possibly return immediately if
the ulps difference can be proved to be = 0.5 ulps, and we're not in any of 
various exceptional cases.

(4) Use the ulps difference to correct *rv* to a new value.

(5) If the ulps difference has fractional part close to 0.5, or if the 
correction takes us past a power of 2, or if it takes use near/to the max 
representable double, or to 0.0, go around the correction loop again.

(6) If we still can't decide (because the ulps difference is very close to 
0.5), call bigcomp to settle the issue once and for all.


The new patch simplifies the above procedure considerably:

- scaling of rv is used for very large values as well as very small ones; this 
simplifies handling of overflow, meaning that there's only a single place where 
overflow has to be detected.

- the adjustment step handles adjustments that cross power-of-2 boundaries 
correctly.

- as a result of the above two simplifications, there's never any need to do a 
second correction step, so the main correction loop is no longer a loop; a 
single correction is performed.

- we always use the bigcomp function in hard cases, so there's no longer any 
need for the computation of ulps_difference to detect the case where the error 
is exactly 0.5 ulps.


The patch isn't quite ready to apply;  I want to expand some of the comments a 
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[issue9020] 2.7: eval hangs on AIX

2010-06-19 Thread Stefan Krah


Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:

Py_CHARMASK should return a non-negative integer. As I understand it:

tokenizer.c:tok_get around line 1368:

while (Py_ISALNUM(c) || c == '_') {
c = tok_nextc(tok);
}


1) tok_nextc(tok) returns EOF (correct).

2) c is an int.

3) c == -1 gets passed to Py_ISALNUM(c):

   #define Py_ISALNUM(c)  (_Py_ctype_table[Py_CHARMASK(c)]  PY_CTF_ALNUM)



So either it should be enforced that only chars are passed to
Py_CHARMASK, or a cast for the EOF case is needed (but it should
be to (unsigned char)).


Sridhar, did I sum this up correctly?

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[issue8998] add crypto routines to stdlib


Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Le samedi 19 juin 2010 à 00:55 +, geremy condra a écrit :
 geremy condra debat...@gmail.com added the comment:
 
 On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Antoine Pitrou rep...@bugs.python.org 
 wrote:
 
  Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
 
  Great, I'm thinking more-or-less the API proposed in PEP 272- the
  exception I'm thinking of is that 'strings' should be substituted for
  'bytes'- for AES and DES. It gets trickier when talking about public
  key crypto, though. Perhaps something along the lines of
  RSA.new(public_key=None, private_key=None,...), with the resulting
  object supporting encrypt/decrypt/sign/verify operations?
 
  I don't have any opinion right now. I think a concrete proposal should
  be initiated and we can iterate from that.
  (that's assuming other people agree on the principle, of course)
 
 I assume that by a concrete proposal you're talking about code? Or
 API docs? Also, what more needs to be done to ensure that other people
 agree on the principle?

I was thinking about a PEP. Of course, you are free to reuse existing
PEP content for that :)

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[issue9020] 2.7: eval hangs on AIX

2010-06-19 Thread Martin v . Löwis


Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 Py_CHARMASK should return a non-negative integer.

And it does, also on AIX. Do we have proof to the contrary?

 tokenizer.c:tok_get around line 1368:

  while (Py_ISALNUM(c) || c == '_') {
  c = tok_nextc(tok);
  }


 1) tok_nextc(tok) returns EOF (correct).

 2) c is an int.

 3) c == -1 gets passed to Py_ISALNUM(c):

 #define Py_ISALNUM(c)  (_Py_ctype_table[Py_CHARMASK(c)]  PY_CTF_ALNUM)



 So either it should be enforced that only chars are passed to
 Py_CHARMASK, or a cast for the EOF case is needed (but it should
 be to (unsigned char)).

Why do you say that? If c is -1, then Py_CHARMASK(c) is 255, which is a
positive integer. Passing -1, or any other integer, to Py_CHARMASK is 
perfectly fine.

There seems to be a minor bug in the loop above, which doesn't actually 
break at EOF. Instead, it implicitly trusts that Py_ISALNUM(EOF) is 
false (because 255 is not alpha-numeric); this is a flaw - but that
shouldn't cause breakage on AIX.

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[issue1602] windows console doesn't print utf8 (Py30a2)

2010-06-19 Thread Christoph Burgmer


Christoph Burgmer cburg...@ira.uka.de added the comment:

Will this bug be tackled or Python2.7?

And is there a way to get hold of the access denied error?

Here are my steps to reproduce:

I started the console with cmd /u /k chcp 65001
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C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\rootset PYTHONIOENCODING=UTF-8

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\rootd:

D:\cd Python31

D:\Python31python
Python 3.1.2 (r312:79149, Mar 21 2010, 00:41:52) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on 
win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 print(\u573a)
场
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File stdin, line 1, in module
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied

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[issue1602] windows console doesn't print utf8 (Py30a2)


Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:


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[issue9020] 2.7: eval hangs on AIX


Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 Why do you say that? If c is -1, then Py_CHARMASK(c) is 255, which is a
 positive integer.

What srid seems to be saying is that chars are unsigned on AIX, and therefore 
Py_CHARMASK() returns -1. Hence his patch proposal.

Of course, it is dubious why EOF is not tested separately rather than passing 
it to Py_ISALNUM(). Micro-optimization? At least a comment should be added.

Also, really, the Py_CHARMASK() macro seems poorly specified. It claims to 
convert a possibly signed character to a nonnegative int, but this is wrong: 
it doesn't convert to an int at all. Furthermore, it does a cast in one branch 
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[issue9020] Specification of Py_CHARMASK

2010-06-19 Thread Stefan Krah


Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:

You can simulate this on Linux by compiling with:

  BASECFLAGS=-funsigned-char

Then:

Index: Parser/tokenizer.c
===
--- Parser/tokenizer.c  (revision 81682)
+++ Parser/tokenizer.c  (working copy)
@@ -1366,6 +1366,8 @@
 break;
 }
 while (Py_ISALNUM(c) || c == '_') {
+c = EOF; // tok_nextc can return EOF
+printf(c: %d\n, Py_CHARMASK(c));
 c = tok_nextc(tok);
 }
 tok_backup(tok, c);



 eval(abcd)
c: -1
c: -1
c: -1
c: -1
c: -1
c: -1




Also, during compilation you get tons of warnings about using
char as an array subscript:

Objects/stringlib/split.h: In function ‘stringlib_split_whitespace’:
Objects/stringlib/split.h:70: warning: array subscript has type ‘char’
Objects/stringlib/split.h:74: warning: array subscript has type ‘char’
Objects/stringlib/split.h:91: warning: array subscript has type ‘char’

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[issue9029] errors='replace' works in IDLE, fails at Windows command line.


R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

What you show is not a complete program, nor do you provide the complete 
traceback or the data causing the problem.  The most helpful thing would be a 
complete small program and data file demonstrating the problem.  That said, I'm 
wondering if your problem is the encoding of the terminal window.

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[issue9020] 2.7: eval hangs on AIX

2010-06-19 Thread Martin v . Löwis


Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 What srid seems to be saying is that chars are unsigned on AIX, and
 therefore Py_CHARMASK() returns -1. Hence his patch proposal.

Ah, ok. I misread some of the messages (and got confused by msg108125,
which seems to suggest that chars are signed on AIX).

 Of course, it is dubious why EOF is not tested separately rather than
 passing it to Py_ISALNUM(). Micro-optimization? At least a comment
 should be added.

No, I think this is an error that EOF is not processed separately.
Otherwise, char 255 may be confused with EOF.

Of course, this would have to be done throughout.

 Also, really, the Py_CHARMASK() macro seems poorly specified. It
 claims to convert a possibly signed character to a nonnegative int,
 but this is wrong: it doesn't convert to an int at all. Furthermore,
 it does a cast in one branch but not in the other, which can give bad
 surprises as here.

I think the specification is correct: it ought to convert to a
non-negative int. In the signed char case, it already returns an int.
So if it is changed at all, it needs to be changed, in the unsigned
case, to

#define  Py_CHARMASK(c) ((int)(c))

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[issue9020] 2.7: eval hangs on AIX

2010-06-19 Thread Stefan Krah


Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:

Martin v. Löwis rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
  Of course, it is dubious why EOF is not tested separately rather than
  passing it to Py_ISALNUM(). Micro-optimization? At least a comment
  should be added.
 
 No, I think this is an error that EOF is not processed separately.
 Otherwise, char 255 may be confused with EOF.

Indeed. I think Py_ISALNUM() should check for EOF, to be consistent
with the C isalnum(int c).

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[issue7989] Add pure Python implementation of datetime module to CPython


R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

Brett's assertion comes from the decision made at the language summit at the 
last pycon. Which does not negate Raymond's assertion that there may be more 
important stuff to pythonize. However, Alexander is maintaining datetime, and 
if he wishes to do the Python version there is no reason I see for him not to 
do it.

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[issue9020] 2.7: eval hangs on AIX

2010-06-19 Thread Martin v . Löwis


Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 Indeed. I think Py_ISALNUM() should check for EOF, to be consistent
 with the C isalnum(int c).

Ah, that sounds fine.

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[issue1573931] WSGI, cgi.FieldStorage incompatibility

2010-06-19 Thread Chris McDonough


Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com added the comment:

Review prompted by 500 tracker orphans; need more reviewers

Although the current WSGI 1.0 spec (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0333/) 
still indicates that implementing the size argument to readline is not 
required, effectively, it is and has been for several years.  Stalling on a 
WSGI 1.1 spec has caused a spec change to be delayed.  See also 
http://www.mail-archive.com/web-...@python.org/msg02494.html

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[issue1573931] WSGI, cgi.FieldStorage incompatibility


Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment:

It's not terribly productive to block a fix for this specific issue in the WSGI 
specification on the big pile of contentious unrelated issues.

It would make sense to issue a new WSGI specification with a correction for 
only this issue.  The rest of the WSGI 1.1 issues can wait for a subsequent 
revision.

Of course, actually getting this done involves either getting web-sig behind it 
or deciding to ignore web-sig and just do it.

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[issue9031] distutils uses invalid -Wstrict-prototypes flag when compiling C++ extension module

2010-06-19 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis


Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com added the comment:

It's a duplicate of issue #1222585. The patch in that issue will also make 
distutils not reuse flags Python was built with.

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[issue8988] import + coding = failure (3.1.2/win32)

2010-06-19 Thread gonegown


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Is there py3k for win32?
And how do I know if #8611 comes from the same source?
Have no idea how they have organized the python core. I'm new to python (about 
2 months) and I don't think I will use it for long. It's just not serious.

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[issue9033] cmd module tab misbehavior

2010-06-19 Thread scott riccardelli


New submission from scott riccardelli s.riccarde...@gmail.com:

noticed that cmd module does not perform completion using TAB on a macintosh 
properly.  instead, the TAB key just places several blank spaces and moves the 
cursor forward.  what it should do is retrieve a list of possibilities for 
completing a command.

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[issue8990] array constructor and array.fromstring should accept bytearray.


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On the principle the patch looks good. In practice, it lacks a call to 
`PyBuffer_Release(buffer)` in the various error cases (before returning NULL). 
It also lacks some tests in Lib/test/test_array.py.

 In 3.x unicode type was renamed to str and str to bytes, so fromunicode 
 should become fromstring (or maybe fromstr to avoid confusion) and
 fromstring should become frombytes.

This should be discussed separately, perhaps on python-dev first.

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[issue2636] Regexp 2.7 (modifications to current re 2.2.2)

2010-06-19 Thread Ezio Melotti


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[issue4883] Compiling python 2.5.2 under Wine on linux.


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Can this be closed as out of date, or is it still relevant to Python 2.7 or any 
of the Python 3 branches?

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[issue1300] subprocess.list2cmdline doesn't do pipe symbols

2010-06-19 Thread Andrew Moise


Andrew Moise ch...@demiurgestudios.com added the comment:

Why is this bug invalid?

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[issue1300] subprocess.list2cmdline doesn't do pipe symbols


Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment:

See the commit message for r82075 and the discussion on issue8972 and issue7839.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) globalcall, merge and globaleval


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From the recent large thread on c.l.py regarding Python GUIs I understand that 
the author of this issue Guilherme Polo has done a massive amount of work on 
Tkinter.  Would it therefore be possible for him to give an update as to 
whether this issue can be closed as out of date, already actioned but not 
recorded, or whatever?  Thanks.

There are several other issues raised by Guilherme Polo regarding Tkinter, 
sorry I'm too lazy to repeat this comment on all of them.

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[issue1300] subprocess.list2cmdline doesn't do pipe symbols

2010-06-19 Thread Andrew Moise


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Hm, I'm not sure I understand.  After r82075, will list2cmdline(['echo', 
'foo|bar']) return 'echo foo|bar', or will it return 'echo foo|bar'?

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[issue4849] instantiating and populating xml.dom.minidom.Element is cumbersome


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As you Jean-Paul Calderone seem to know what you're talking about could you 
provide a patch to get this issue going?  If not I might even have a go myself, 
even if I do get shot down in flames.

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[issue8820] IDLE not launching correctly

2010-06-19 Thread Joseph


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I'm using python version 2.6.5.

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[issue1300] subprocess.list2cmdline doesn't do pipe symbols


Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment:

It will return the former.

To clarify, it's true that there appears to be a problem with Popen(['echo', 
'foo|bar'], shell=True).  That is being tracked in issue7839.

What's invalid is the report that list2cmdline() should be quoting strings with 
| in them.  list2cmdline() is documented as being an implementation of the 
quoting convention implemented by the MS C runtime.  That quoting convention 
does not require | to be quoted.

It's cmd.exe which requires | to be quoted (if it is to be part of an argument 
value, rather than to indicate a command pipeline of some sort).  cmd.exe 
quoting rules need to be addressed separately from the MS C quoting rules used 
even if cmd.exe isn't involved.

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[issue4919] 2.6.1 build issues on solaris with SunStudio 12


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Can this be closed as out of date or is it still an issue with Python 2.7 or 
any of the Python 3 versions?

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[issue4883] Compiling python 2.5.2 under Wine on linux.

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Dickinson


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It can be closed.  Thanks!

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[issue4883] Compiling python 2.5.2 under Wine on linux.


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Hi Mark,

It'll cost you a couple of pints of Ringwood Old Thumper if you're ever in my 
neck of the woods.

Also blame Terry Reedy if I prove to be a pain in the neck!!!

Kindest regards.

Mark Lawrence.


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It can be closed.  Thanks!

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[issue4629] getopt should not accept no_argument that ends with '='


Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:

I'm not sure why this is still open, would somebody like to comment, see also 
Issue4650.

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[issue9033] cmd module tab misbehavior


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It seems readline module is not installed on your system. 
Quoting Ned Deily's comment from issue8365 which will most probably solve your 
issue:
Issue6877 (and subsequent fixes in Issue8066) allows the Python readline 
module to be built and linked with the OS X editline (libedit) library rather 
than with the GNU readline library (which is not included with OS X).  However, 
the libedit included in versions of OS X prior to 10.5 is considered too broken 
to use here.

By default, if you do not specify an --with-universal-archs other than 32-bit 
to configure or if you do not explicitly set MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET to 
another value, configure defaults to using 10.4 (or earlier) so the building 
of the readline module is skipped.  You can check this:

 from distutils.sysconfig import get_config_var 
 get_config_var('MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET')
'10.4'

(Whether this is the best default is another question.)

As it stands, to be able to build the readline module, either:

(1) supply the GNU readline library as a local library, or

(2) ensure you are building with a deployment target of at least 10.5.  For 
example:

./configure MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.6 ; make

Also note that option (2) is not available for 3.1.x since the changes to 
support editline/libedit were not ported to it; they are, however, in 2.6.5, 
2.7 (trunk), and 3.2 (py3k)

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[issue9033] cmd module tab misbehavior


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[issue1300] subprocess.list2cmdline doesn't do pipe symbols

2010-06-19 Thread Andrew Moise


Andrew Moise ch...@demiurgestudios.com added the comment:

Okay, makes sense.  It sure would be nice on Windows to have an equivalent of 
list2cmdline() that works for the shell.  I actually don't have immediate 
access to the code anymore, but I remember having to fool around with 
list2cmdline in the first place because it was difficult to do what I wanted 
without passing things through the shell (maybe I was spawning a process on 
Windows and capturing input/output/stderr; I don't remember in detail).

Maybe the solution is to make what I was trying to do easier without fooling 
with the shell instead of playing the fool's game of trying to improve the 
ability to deal with the shell so we can pass things through it unnecessarily.

Anyway, thanks.

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[issue4654] os.path.realpath() get the wrong result


Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:

An issue with Python 2.3, can this be closed or is it still a problem with 
Python 2.7 or any of the Python 3 versions?

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[issue8820] IDLE not launching correctly


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[issue4654] os.path.realpath() get the wrong result


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[issue5005] 3.0 sqlite doc: most examples refer to pysqlite2, use 2.x syntax.


Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:

I'm guessing that this is fixed and hence can be closed as google didn't throw 
anything obvious at me, am I correct?

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[issue4654] os.path.realpath() get the wrong result

2010-06-19 Thread Ezio Melotti


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[issue1479626] Uninstall does not clean registry


Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:

Wouldn't be the first Windows uninstaller to leave junk in the registry and 
won't be the last.  if this is going to be actioned versions need to be updated 
to Python 2.7, thinking realistically of 2.7.1, and Python 3.2+?

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[issue1589] New SSL module doesn't seem to verify hostname against commonName in certificate

2010-06-19 Thread Devin Cook


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[issue4654] os.path.realpath() get the wrong result


Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com added the comment:

No such issue on python 2.6, 2.7, 3.2.

 print(os.path.realpath('/Users/l0nwlf/Desktop/tmp/../decotest.lnk'))
/Users/l0nwlf/Desktop/decotest.lnk
I think this issue can be closed.
However, I came with a different issue while testing on 2.6, trunk and 3.2.

 print(os.path.realpath('~/Desktop/tmp/../decotest.lnk'))
/Volumes/CoreHD/py3k/~/Desktop/decotest.lnk

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[issue1778410] removeTest() method patch for unittest.TestSuite


Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:

This is almost three years old but strikes me as being useful.  Could somebody 
with more knowledge than myself review the patch and update the relevant Python 
versions?  Failing that, simply close the issue as not being relevant today.

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[issue5005] 3.0 sqlite doc: most examples refer to pysqlite2, use 2.x syntax.

2010-06-19 Thread Terry J. Reedy


Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

This issue is about the examples in 
11.6.1. Module functions and constants.
All 3 points are fixed.
The indentation issue seems to have been fixed by making the blank line 
completely blank with no spaces. I would have removed it, but cut and paste now 
works.

I have no idea what Google has to do with this, but thanks for pinging it.

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[issue9018] os.path.normcase(None) does not raise an error on linux and should


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Following the documentation,
os.path.normcase(path)
Normalize the case of a pathname. On Unix and Mac OS X, this returns the path 
unchanged; on case-insensitive filesystems, it converts the path to lowercase. 
On Windows, it also converts forward slashes to backward slashes.

on Mac OS X,
 import os
 os.name
'posix'

Checking through, Lib/posixpath.py,

# Normalize the case of a pathname.  Trivial in Posix, string.lower on Mac.
# On MS-DOS this may also turn slashes into backslashes; however, other
# normalizations (such as optimizing '../' away) are not allowed
# (another function should be defined to do that).

def normcase(s):
Normalize case of pathname.  Has no effect under Posix
# TODO: on Mac OS X, this should really return s.lower().
return s

Why on Mac OS X, it should return s.lower() ?
Also to raise Error for None case we can probably change normcase() in 
Lib/posixpath.py as,

def normcase(s):
Normalize case of pathname.  Has no effect under Posix
if s is None:  
raise AttributeError
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[issue9026] [argparse] Subcommands not printed in the same order they were added

2010-06-19 Thread Steven Bethard


Steven Bethard steven.beth...@gmail.com added the comment:

Yes, please generate patches from the Python repository.

Thanks!

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[issue9026] [argparse] Subcommands not printed in the same order they were added

2010-06-19 Thread Éric Araujo


Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

Guidelines: http://www.python.org/dev/patches/

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[issue5969] setup build with Platform SDK, finding vcvarsall.bat

2010-06-19 Thread Georg Brandl


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[issue5972] Failing test_signal.py on Redhat 4.1.2-44

2010-06-19 Thread Georg Brandl


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Closing for lack of response.

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[issue9005] Year range in timetuple

2010-06-19 Thread Alexander Belopolsky


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2010-06-19 Thread Alexander Belopolsky


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[issue8524] SSL sockets do not retain the parent socket's attributes


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I have tried refactoring the ssl code in order not to inherit from socket 
anymore, but it turned out suboptimal because chunks of code from the socket 
class then have to be duplicated.

Therefore, I instead propose a much simpler approach which is to add a forget() 
method to socket objects; this method closes the socket object (sets the 
internal fd to -1) without closing the underlying fd at all. This allows to 
create another socket (actually SSLSocket) from the same fd without having to 
dup() it.

Here is a patch; if the principle is accepted, I will add tests and docs.

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[issue8939] Use C type names (PyUnicode etc;) in the C API docs

2010-06-19 Thread Éric Araujo


Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

Shouldn’t “inside a :ctype:`Py_BEGIN_ALLOW_THREADS` block” rather use 
“:cmacro:”?

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[issue8524] SSL sockets do not retain the parent socket's attributes


Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment:

It might be nice to see the version that avoids the dup() and has the duplicate 
code instead (interesting trade-off ;).  Just for the sake of comparison 
against the forget() proposal.

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[issue4654] os.path.realpath() get the wrong result


R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

Your different issue looks like a correct result to me.  ~ is not automatically 
expanded.

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[issue9008] CGIHTTPServer support for arbitrary CGI scripts

2010-06-19 Thread Éric Araujo


Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

I’m sorry to have launched this thread. I hadn’t thought that Senthil
is doing a lot of good work on HTTP and URI-related modules, and I wanted
to express my feeling that this bug would not get fixed without someone
proposing a patch. I didn’t want to imply that the request was not valid
nor to discourage bug reporters. If I did, I sincerely apologize.

To address the issues Anatoly raised before I stop being off-topic:

1) Patch submission: You can already use Mercurial to prepare patches
(bare Mercurial, MQ or pbranch, on top of a Subversion checkout or
Mercurial clone (code.python.org/hg, kindly maintained by Antoine).

2) No maintainer for CGI: The term “maintainer” is explained at the top of
the Misc/maintainers.rst file, it means a core developer taking special
care of one area or module. All core developpers are collectively
maintaining the whole stdlib; a module without a dedicated maintainer is
*not* unmaintained.

3) Nothing better than CGI in stdlib: BaseHTTPServer is handy for quick
testing; wsgiref is okay for quick testing of WSGI applications.
Third-party servers have different design goals and advantages for various
classes of users.

4) The header thing is a bug; I’ll search whether it’s already reported.

5) Current workflow seems good to the vast majority of contributors. I’ve
been contributing for a few months and found the workflow reasonable and
working, like a lot of people. That said, a Web UI for doc changes with
live preview may be a good way to let non-programmers propose fixes;
please open a feature request on Sphinx’ tracker (on Bitbucket) or ask for
opinions on d...@python.org. Again, we’re all volunteers here, so “you
should do X” works a lot less than “I want to do X”.

I hope I have provided some hints and data points; I do not wish this
off-topic discussion to continue. Like Antoine said, we now understand your
viewpoint, and your suggestions for improvement would be more fruitful on
relevant mailing lists. Regards

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[issue4654] os.path.realpath() get the wrong result


Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com added the comment:

By different issue I meant expected but non-useful output. 
Although it does exactly what it is supposed to do, but expanding tilde (~) to 
$HOME could have been the default behavior(more user-friendly I should say). 
Don't know if that is worth it but the scale seems more on the negative side.

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[issue4654] os.path.realpath() get the wrong result


R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

I can confirm this works correctly on 32 bit Linux under 2.6.4.  Since it is 
unlikely the width matters to this issue I'm going to close it. If anyone has a 
case where it fails we can reopen.

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[issue4654] os.path.realpath() get the wrong result