Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
Since you don't care about identity, only that the objects have
different values, you should be comparing for equality with ‘==’.
Ok, one last attempt.
I need *identifiers*. I could simply define:
class ABC:
A = object()
B = object()
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info:
But I'm not sure that there is a good reason to put the class definitions
inside the __init__ method. That means every time you create a new
StateMachine instance, the classes have to be re-created.
[...]
It will be much more
Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net writes:
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
Since you don't care about identity, only that the objects have
different values, you should be comparing for equality with ‘==’.
Ok, one last attempt.
I need *identifiers*.
And, as you've realised, without
Thanks Peter and Simon for the hints it worked : ) without ' ='
# Python corrupt.py -o INODE -p /ifs/1.txt -q SET -f 1
Current Default Choice :
Choice: INODE
Choice: SET
Choice: 1
Iam done with the command line parsing but got stuck while trying to
implement switch kind of
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
Use ‘==’, since that's all that matters for getting a value that will
work fine.
You are telling me to use '==' if I choose string objects and 'is' if I
choose some other objects.
I prefer a solution that works regardless of what objects I choose for
Ganesh Pal wrote:
Iam using the options.name directly for manipulations is this fine or do
I need to assign it to variable and then use it
if options.object_type == 'LIN':
corrupt_inode()
This is fine. You would only consider storing the value if you are going to
use it very often
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 16:43:11 +0530, Ganesh Pal wrote:
Iam done with the command line parsing but got stuck while trying to
implement switch kind of behavior with dictionaries. So posting 2 more
questions
You should start new threads for new questions. The subject line here has
nothing to do
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
Use ‘==’, since that's all that matters for getting a value that will
work fine.
You are telling me to use '==' if I choose string objects and 'is' if I
choose some other objects.
handler = object_type_dictionary[options.object_type] # look up the
function
handler() # call it
The last two lines could also be merged into one
object_type_dictionary[options.object_type]()
but the first version may be clearer.
Thanks for your valuable inputs all worked :)
--
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
You should start new threads for new questions. The subject line here has
nothing to do with the questions you ask.
Sure Steven and thanks for replying and your suggestion for Question 2
( same
Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net writes:
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
Use ‘==’, since that's all that matters for getting a value that will
work fine.
You are telling me to use '==' if I choose string objects and 'is' if I
choose some other objects.
No. I'm telling you that
graeme.piete...@gmail.com, 24.02.2014 10:45:
I am building HTML pages using ElementTree.
I need to insert chunks of untrusted HTML into the page. I do not need or
want to parse this, just insert it at a particular point as is.
How would you want to find out if it can be safely inserted or not
On 01/03/2014 06:16, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 11:16:18 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
How would you propose doing that? Bear in mind that while Python
knows that tuples specifically are immutable, it doesn't generally
know whether a type is immutable.
hi Ian, consider the
BREAKING FUCKING NEWS, ASSHOLES!
THRINAXODON JUST FOUND THREE HUMAN FOSSILS FROM DEVONIAN STRATA IN
GREENLAND; THE FOSSILS WERE A HUMAN FEMUR, KNEECAP, AND SKULLCAP.
THE SMITHSONIAN IS CHASTISING OVER THESE FINDS, DOING
On 01/03/2014 11:59, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
There really is no taboo against string object identity if you know what
you are doing.
And, as proven here in this thread, you do not know what you are doing.
Why do you
On 03/01/2014 04:28 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
Use ‘==’, since that's all that matters for getting a value that will
work fine.
You are telling me to use '==' if I choose string objects and 'is' if I
choose some other objects.
No, '==' works fine no
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 22:59:52 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net
wrote:
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
Use ‘==’, since that's all that matters for getting a value that will
work fine.
You are telling me to use '==' if I
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 12:31:39 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
I need *identifiers*. I could simply define:
class ABC:
A = object()
B = object()
C = object()
The program would work perfectly.
Except, if it's got a bug. I know self.abc contains either A, B or C,
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
No. I'm telling you that ‘is’ is *wrong* for comparing strings,
because it is unreliable.
No, it isn't as long as the string object references have a common
assignment pedigree. Assignment (including parameter passing) is
guaranteed to preserve identity
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:07 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 22:59:52 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
And, as proven here in this thread, you do not know what you are doing.
Steady on, that's a bit harsh. In context, I think that Marko is
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
No. I'm telling you that ‘is’ is *wrong* for comparing strings,
because it is unreliable.
No, it isn't as long as the string object references have a common
assignment pedigree.
Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com:
No, '==' works fine no matter what objects you assign to your state
variables.
Well, it doesn't since
a = float(nan)
a is a
True
a == a
False
More generally, it depends on how the __eq__ method has been implemented
for the class. You might
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
You might even (foolishly) define a class such that:
a == b
False
a != b
False
Not necessarily even foolish; the SQL NULL value [1] behaves like that.
ChrisA
[1] Which isn't a value, except when it is
--
Hello everybody, I implemented a password validation with a Python 2.7.5 script
in OpenSUSE 13.1. The user calls it passing 'login' and 'password' as
arguments. I made a dictionary in the format hashtable = {'login':'password'}
and I use this hash table to compare the 'login' and 'password'
On 3/1/14 12:50 AM, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 11:34:56 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
One very common example of tuples containing lists is when lists are
passed to any function that accepts *args, because the extra arguments
are passed in a tuple. A similarly common example is
Try this
def guess1(upLimit = 100):
import random
num = random.randint(1,upLimit)
count = 0
gotIt = False
while (not gotIt):
print('Guess a number between 1 and', upLimit, ':')
guess= int(input())
count += 1
if guess == num:
On 03/01/2014 10:29 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com:
No, '==' works fine no matter what objects you assign to your state
variables.
Well, it doesn't since
a = float(nan)
a is a
True
a == a
False
More generally, it depends on how the
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Renato rvernu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody, I implemented a password validation with a Python 2.7.5
script in OpenSUSE 13.1. The user calls it passing 'login' and 'password' as
arguments. I made a dictionary in the format hashtable = {'login':'password'}
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info:
It seems to me that he's just assuming that symbols ought to be
singletons, hence his focus on identity rather than equality.
Yes.
A practical angle is this: if I used strings as symbols and compared
them with ==, logically I shouldn't
On 01.03.2014 19:11, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Renato rvernu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody, I implemented a password validation with a Python 2.7.5
script in OpenSUSE 13.1. The user calls it passing 'login' and 'password' as
arguments. I made a dictionary in
On 2014-03-02 05:11, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Renato rvernu...@gmail.com wrote:
My question is: is there a way of preventing the user from
reading the script's content?
Not really. It might be a bit obfuscated, but
Is there any strategy I could use to hide
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
That said, if the user has access to the source code, there's nothing
preventing them from changing
if hash(provided_password) == existing_hash:
do_magic()
into just
if True:
do_magic()
and
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote:
encrypted = hashlib.sha256(login+'NaCl protects your
passwords'+password).hexdigest()
encrypted
'b329f2674af4d8d873e264d23713ace4505c211410eb46779c27e02d5a50466c'
Please don't do that. It's insecure and not the
On 27 February 2014 21:47, Nick Timkovich prometheus...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
It's unintuitive, but it's a consequence of the way += is defined. If
you don't want assignment, don't use assignment :)
Where is `.__iadd__()`
Hi
Can anyone help with this problem
Create a big box out of n rows of little o's for any desired size n. Use an
input statement to allow the user to enter the value for n and then print the
properly sized box.
E.g. n = 3
oo
oo
oo
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:12 AM, genius...@gmail.com wrote:
Create a big box out of n rows of little o's for any desired size n. Use an
input statement to allow the user to enter the value for n and then print the
properly sized box.
How far have you gotten so far with your homework? Show us
Well, This is what i got
n = int(input(enter number of o: ))
for i in range(n):
print(O, end = '')
for j in range(n* 2):
print(O, end = '')
print()
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On 2014-03-01 19:28, genius...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, This is what i got
n = int(input(enter number of o: ))
for i in range(n):
print(O, end = '')
for j in range(n* 2):
print(O, end = '')
print()
From the examples:
The first row has n*2 of 'o'
There are n-2
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Mark H. Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 11:16:18 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
How would you propose doing that? Bear in mind that while Python
knows that tuples specifically are immutable, it doesn't generally
know whether a type is
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:28 AM, genius...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, This is what i got
n = int(input(enter number of o: ))
for i in range(n):
print(O, end = '')
for j in range(n* 2):
print(O, end = '')
print()
Okay! Good. Now, presumably this isn't working yet, or you
On 01.03.2014 19:45, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote:
encrypted = hashlib.sha256(login+'NaCl protects your
passwords'+password).hexdigest()
encrypted
'b329f2674af4d8d873e264d23713ace4505c211410eb46779c27e02d5a50466c'
Please
Hi,
###in.txt
kbd class=command
cp -v --remove-destination /usr/share/zoneinfo/
em class=replaceablecodexxx/code/em
\
/etc/localtime
/kbd
import sys
import unicodedata
from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
file_name=in.txt
html_doc=open(file_name,'r')
soup=BeautifulSoup(html_doc)
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote:
Yes, for most applications brute force is still the best option to crack
the password. Passwords are usually rather short, have a low entropy and
modern hardware is insanely fast. With software like [1] and a fast GPU
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 8:54:43 AM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
you're also using google groups... it doesn't wrap paragraphs
correctly... please read and action this
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython... it does wrap
paragraphs correctly... it also prevents us
In article 2465a8c7-ce0e-4606-ad3b-9135c96e3...@googlegroups.com,
twiz twiza...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I'm sure this is a common question but I can't seem to find a previous thread
that addresses it. If one one exists, please point me to it.
I've been developing with python
On 2014-02-23, Sam lightai...@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding of Python tuples is that they are like immutable
lists. If this is the cause, why can't we replace tuples with lists
all the time (just don't reassign the lists)? Correct me if I am
wrong.
In addition to the things related to
In article 64af70e3-6876-4fbf-8386-330d2f487...@googlegroups.com,
Sam lightai...@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding of Python tuples is that they are like immutable lists. If
this is the cause, why can't we replace tuples with lists all the time (just
don't reassign the lists)? Correct me if
In article led9s7$req$1...@reader1.panix.com,
Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote:
In constrast, tuples are often used as fixed-length heterogenous
containers (more like a struct in C except the fields are named 0, 1,
2, 3, etc.). In a particular context, the Nth element of a tuple
In article mailman.7297.1393204171.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
On 23/02/2014 3:43 PM, Scott W Dunning wrote:
I had a question regarding functions. Is there a way to call a
function multiple times without
On 2014-02-24, Benjamin Kaplan benjamin.kap...@case.edu wrote:
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
for _ in range(5):
func()
the obvious indentation error above
On 2014-02-24, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/24/2014 11:05 AM, j.e.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
typedef struct {
int value;
} Number;
Number *o;
o = malloc(sizeof(*o));
o-value=3;
printf(o%p, o-value%p\n, o, o-value);
o0x9fe5008, o-value0x9fe5008
Is the compiler
On 2014-02-25, mauro ma...@gmail.com wrote:
Dictionaries and sets share a few properties:
- Dictionaries keys are unique as well as sets items
- Dictionaries and sets are both unordered
- Dictionaries and sets are both accessed by key
- Dictionaries and sets are both mutables
So I wonder
On 2014-02-24, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
So pick any distro that strikes your fancy! Try it out! If it doesn't
work out, pick a different one. Start with one that your friends use
(if you have any), that way you can get immediate help.
That last bit of advice shouldn't be
In article 65ac9612-fd48-472a-b077-c802be96e...@googlegroups.com,
Ronaldo abhishek1...@gmail.com wrote:
How do I write a state machine in python? I have identified the states and
the conditions. Is it possible to do simple a if-then-else sort of an
algorithm? Below is some pseudo code:
On 2014-02-28, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com:
Can you elaborate on this nonliteral constants point? How is it a
problem if DISCONNECTING isn't technically a constant? It follows the
Python convention of being in all upper-case, so the programmer
On 2014-02-28, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem does have to believe that the rubber duck/teddy
bear/figurine is an expert, though. I've had my siblings or parents
come to me with problems and, without saying a word or touching the
computer or anything, I've solved them. The
In G57Pu.24239$th2.4...@tornado.fastwebnet.it mauro ma...@gmail.com writes:
- Dictionaries and sets are both accessed by key
As far as I have used sets, they are not accessed by key.
x = set([1, 2, 'buckle my shoe'])
x
set([1, 2, 'buckle my shoe'])
1 in x
True
5 in x
False
--
John Gordon
In article mailman.7395.1393423618.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Unix SA d.josh...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Experts,
I have requirement, like i want to use below command in python script.
command --username username --password password Command line
arguments
now my requirement is i
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
A colleague of mine taught me decades back that the whole point of OO
was the avoidance of if and switch statements. So if your code has an if
or switch statement, chances are you are doing something wrong.
This sounds
In article 87d2i7wbxs@elektro.pacujo.net,
Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu:
Check out Go's switch statement for an example of what it might
look like in Python. Except you'd get it without labeled break or
the fallthrough statement.
Python
On 2014-02-28, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Here's a use case for is with strings (or ints):
class Connection:
IDLE = IDLE
CONNECTING = CONNECTING
CONNECTED = CONNECTED
DISCONNECTING = DISCONNECTING
DISCONNECTED = DISCONNECTED
def
On Friday, February 28, 2014 11:16:18 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
How would you propose doing that? Bear in mind that while Python
knows that tuples specifically are immutable, it doesn't generally
know whether a type is immutable.
hi Ian, I thought of something else after I slept on it, so to
On 2014-02-28, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SwitchStatementsSmell
So lack of a switch state is an attempt to force Python programmers to
write things in an object oriented way?
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! FUN is never
In article 0b414429-74ee-45dd-9465-c87e98c36...@googlegroups.com,
Mark H. Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 3:03:25 PM UTC-6, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Marko
... and between me and you, here is a snip from dmath.py from the atan(x)
function:
if
In article mailman.7483.1393632181.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Of course. That's the point of describing something as a âcode smellâ:
it may have exceptions where the smell does not indicate an actual
problem, but those are not the normal
On 23/02/2014 17:48, Roy Smith wrote:
In article led9s7$req$1...@reader1.panix.com,
Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote:
In constrast, tuples are often used as fixed-length heterogenous
containers (more like a struct in C except the fields are named 0, 1,
2, 3, etc.). In a
In article 87mwh9969m@elektro.pacujo.net,
Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com:
No, '==' works fine no matter what objects you assign to your state
variables.
Well, it doesn't since
a = float(nan)
a is a
True
a == a
False
In article mailman.7533.1393703687.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote:
With software like [1] and a fast GPU
it is possible to do more than 10*10^9 checks/second for SHA-256.
Just out of curiosity, how does that differ from 10^10 checks/second?
--
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 12:24:15 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
much code. If you want to change anything, you potentially have to
edit three places: the list of constants at the top, the condition
function, and the switch.
This can't be your idea of readability. Show me where
On 01/03/2014 21:40, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 12:24:15 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
much code. If you want to change anything, you potentially have to
edit three places: the list of constants at the top, the condition
function, and the switch.
This can't be your
On Saturday 01 March 2014 16:52:44 Grant Edwards did opine:
On 2014-02-28, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem does have to believe that the rubber duck/teddy
bear/figurine is an expert, though. I've had my siblings or parents
come to me with problems and, without saying a
On 01.03.2014 21:25, Roy Smith wrote:
In article mailman.7533.1393703687.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote:
With software like [1] and a fast GPU
it is possible to do more than 10*10^9 checks/second for SHA-256.
Just out of curiosity, how does
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 4:01:12 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
No elipses, just the paragraphs not wrapped and the double line spacing.
Good old gg, I just love it.
How do I fix it? Is there a setting someplace? I tried pulling up the page
you linked, but blank.
Thanks in
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Mark H. Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
hi Chris, I don't think you're wrong. There are two issues for me (and one
of them is not how the switch is implemented).
1) Is it easier for average users of python as a language to read switch case
default, or
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote:
On 01.03.2014 21:25, Roy Smith wrote:
In article mailman.7533.1393703687.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote:
With software like [1] and a fast GPU
it is possible to do more
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote:
You drag out the lab scope, logic analyzer, spectrum analyzer, sweep
generator, strip plotter, and the machine that goes ping. You start
to get everything set up to nail that problem securely to the
dissecting board.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:44 AM, John Gordon gor...@panix.com wrote:
In G57Pu.24239$th2.4...@tornado.fastwebnet.it mauro ma...@gmail.com
writes:
- Dictionaries and sets are both accessed by key
As far as I have used sets, they are not accessed by key.
x = set([1, 2, 'buckle my shoe'])
x
Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net writes:
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info:
It seems to me that he's just assuming that symbols ought to be
singletons, hence his focus on identity rather than equality.
Yes.
Give that up, then. Your assumption is false in Python, and is
On Sunday, February 23, 2014 2:43:14 AM UTC-6, twiz wrote:
I'm sure this is a common question but I can't seem to find a previous thread
that addresses it. If one one exists, please point me to it.
My personal preference for writing and testing python code is Gnu/Linux as a
platform (free
Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net writes:
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au:
No. I'm telling you that ‘is’ is *wrong* for comparing strings,
because it is unreliable.
No, it isn't as long as the string object references have a common
assignment pedigree. Assignment (including parameter
Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid writes:
On 2014-02-28, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SwitchStatementsSmell
So lack of a switch state is an attempt […]
Since when is the absence of action an “attempt” to do anything?
You're assuming the not-doing
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 4:36:07 PM UTC-6, Ben Finney wrote:
Since when is the absence of action an attempt to do anything?
You're assuming the not-doing of something must have a purpose. That
assumption doesn't seem justified.
Correct. Argument from silence is logical fallacy; lack of
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Mark H. Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
Py3.3.4 and the latest Active TCL are stable on OSX 10.6 or higher. I have
been very pleased with IDLE on both Gnu/Linux and OSX ( I refuse to use
Windows ever again, ever) and my latest experience has been fabulous,
In article 4e741358-ce12-40ac-97b8-3bbbf2d6d...@googlegroups.com,
Mark H. Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
The main problem you will see with OSX (if you're not careful) is that IDLE
will be unstable. To be fair about it, its not IDLE's problem, per se. Its
about tcl/tk tkinter.
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 20:25:51 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info:
It seems to me that he's just assuming that symbols ought to be
singletons, hence his focus on identity rather than equality.
Yes.
A practical angle is this: if I used
On 3/1/2014 4:20 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 23/02/2014 17:48, Roy Smith wrote:
It also appears that tuples are more memory efficient. I just ran some
quick tests on my OSX box. Creating a list of 10 million [1, 2, 3, 4,
5] lists gave me a 1445 MB process. The name number of (1, 2, 3, 4,
On 01/03/2014 22:07, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 4:01:12 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
No elipses, just the paragraphs not wrapped and the double line spacing.
Good old gg, I just love it.
How do I fix it? Is there a setting someplace? I tried pulling up the
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 5:21:57 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
Thanks, Mark. Whoohoo! Looks like gg has some work to do. rats(). Ok, so I'm
typing away here and when
I get to the boarder I should press the enter key so that the text is forced
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Mark H. Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 5:21:57 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
Thanks, Mark. Whoohoo! Looks like gg has some work to do. rats(). Ok, so I'm
typing away here and
On 02/03/2014 00:23, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 5:21:57 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
Thanks, Mark. Whoohoo! Looks like gg has some work to do. rats(). Ok, so I'm
typing away here and when
I get to the boarder I should
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 12:55:07 AM UTC-6, Anssi Saari wrote:
I recently watched a presentation by Jessica McKellar of PSF about what
Python needs to stay popular. Other than the obvious bits (difficulties
of limited support of Python on major platforms like Windows and mobile)
the slight
On 01Mar2014 15:07, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
In article 4e741358-ce12-40ac-97b8-3bbbf2d6d...@googlegroups.com,
Mark H. Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
If you want to use terminals on OSX you'll want to install Quartz and run
the terminal on the emulated X environment.
In article
captjjmqgh5-n8fgki+vmd8grzcw5np64kinka9_b6ewf8gv...@mail.gmail.com,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
What I would recommend, if you don't feel like setting up NNTP, is to
subscribe to the mailing list:
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
All the same
On Mar 1, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Susan Aldridge susanaldridge...@gmail.com wrote:
Try this
def guess1(upLimit = 100):
import random
num = random.randint(1,upLimit)
count = 0
gotIt = False
while (not gotIt):
print('Guess a number between 1 and', upLimit, ':')
On 02/03/2014 00:55, Ned Deily wrote:
In article
captjjmqgh5-n8fgki+vmd8grzcw5np64kinka9_b6ewf8gv...@mail.gmail.com,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
What I would recommend, if you don't feel like setting up NNTP, is to
subscribe to the mailing list:
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Scott W Dunning swdunn...@cox.net wrote:
print('You got it in ', count, 'guesses.')
Thanks Susan! The only problem is he wants us to do it without loops because
we haven’t learned them yet. I need to use the variables and function names
that he’s given
Le 01/03/2014 22:21, Mark H. Harris a écrit :
The point I'm trying to make with this post is that s[2]+=[46] and
s[2]=s[2]+[46] are handled inconsistently.
For my own, the fact that, in Python, a_liste += e_elt gives a different
result than a_list = a_list + e_elt is a big source of
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 3:21:44 PM UTC-6, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 11:16:18 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
hi Ian, I thought of something else after I slept on it, so to speak.
Consider this:
s=(2,3,[42,43,44],7)
s[2]
[42, 43, 44]
s[2] is a list. We should be able
On Saturday, March 1, 2014 8:04:32 PM UTC-6, Eric Jacoboni wrote:
In fact, i think i'm gonna forget += on lists :)
hi Eric, well, that might be extreme, but you certainly want to avoid
trying to change an immutable. Something you might want to consider
is trying something like creating a new
On Mar 1, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Without loops, one part of your assignment is going to be tedious,
unless the intent is to only allow for one guess per run.
No, 10 guesses per game. Yes very tedious and repetative.
from random import
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