The PTVS gang (from microsoft) would like to hear from python-list users!

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Executing pl/sql script File in python without sqlclient

2014-04-25 Thread Code
Is there a way to execute pl/sql Script files through Python without sqlclient. 
i have checked cx_oracle and i guess it requires oracle client, so is there a 
way to execute without oracle client.
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soap library for python-3.x

2014-04-25 Thread Deepika Nagpal

Hi,

We have to start a project of developing a soap server in python-3.x for which 
I am
looking for a soap server side library. Please let me know what are the options
available and which of these libraries are actively maintained. Thanks.


Regards,
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RE: Executing pl/sql script File in python without sqlclient

2014-04-25 Thread Joseph L. Casale
 Is there a way to execute pl/sql Script files through Python without 
 sqlclient.

https://code.google.com/p/pypyodbc/ might work for you...

 i have checked cx_oracle and i guess it requires oracle client, so is there a 
 way to execute without oracle client.

Right, as the name implies it uses the oci interface and hence needs that 
library available.

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how to split this kind of text into sections

2014-04-25 Thread oyster
I have a long text, which should be splitted into some sections, where
all sections have a pattern like following with different KEY. And the /n/r
can not be used to split

I don't know whether this can be done easily, for example by using RE module

[demo text starts]
a line we do not need
I am section axax
I am section bbb, we can find that the first 2 lines of this section all
startswith 'I am section'
.(and here goes many other text)...
let's continue to
 let's continue, yeah
 .(and here goes many other text)...
I am using python
I am using perl
 .(and here goes many other text)...
[demo text ends]

the above text should be splitted as a LIST with 3 items, and I also need
to know the KEY for LIST is ['I am section', 'let's continue', 'I am
using']:
lst=[
 '''I am section axax
I am section bbb, we can find that the first 2 lines of this section all
startswith 'I am section'
.(and here goes many other text)...''',

'''let's continue to
 let's continue, yeah
 .(and here goes many other text)...''',


'''I am using python
I am using perl
 .(and here goes many other text)...'''
]

I hope I have state myself clear.

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Re: how to split this kind of text into sections

2014-04-25 Thread Roy Smith
In article mailman.9492.1398431281.18130.python-l...@python.org,
 oyster lepto.pyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a long text, which should be splitted into some sections, where
 all sections have a pattern like following with different KEY. And the /n/r
 can not be used to split
 
 I don't know whether this can be done easily, for example by using RE module
 
 [demo text starts]
 a line we do not need
 I am section axax
 I am section bbb, we can find that the first 2 lines of this section all
 startswith 'I am section'
 .(and here goes many other text)...
 let's continue to
  let's continue, yeah
  .(and here goes many other text)...
 I am using python
 I am using perl
  .(and here goes many other text)...
 [demo text ends]

This kind of looks like a standard INI file.  Check out 
https://docs.python.org/2/library/configparser.html, it may do what you 
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Re: how to split this kind of text into sections

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, oyster lepto.pyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 the above text should be splitted as a LIST with 3 items, and I also need to
 know the KEY for LIST is ['I am section', 'let's continue', 'I am using']:

It's not perfectly clear, but I think I have some idea of what you're
trying to do. Let me restate what I think you want, and you can tell
be if it's correct.

You have a file which consists of a number of lines. Some of those
lines begin with the string I am section, others begin let's
continue, and others begin I am using. You want to collect those
three sets of lines; inside each collection, every line will have that
same prefix.

Is that correct? If so, we can certainly help you with that. If not,
please clarify. :)

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MacOS 10.9.2: threading error using python.org 2.7.6 distribution

2014-04-25 Thread Matthew Pounsett

I've run into a threading error in some code when I run it on MacOS that works 
flawlessly on a *BSD system running the same version of python.  I'm running 
the python 2.7.6 for MacOS distribution from python.org's downloads page.

I have tried to reproduce the error with a simple example, but so far haven't 
been able to find the element or my code that triggers the error.  I'm hoping 
someone can suggest some things to try and/or look at.  Googling for pyton 
and the error returns exactly two pages, neither of which are any help.

When I run it through the debugger, I'm getting the following from inside 
threading.start().  python fails to provide a stack trace when I step into 
_start_new_thread(), which is a pointer to thread.start_new_thread().  It looks 
like threading.__bootstrap_inner() may be throwing an exception which 
thread.start_new_thread() is unable to handle, and for some reason the stack is 
missing so I get no stack trace explaining the error.

It looks like thread.start_new_thread() is in the binary object, so I can't 
actually step into it and find where the error is occurring.

 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/threading.py(745)start()
- _start_new_thread(self.__bootstrap, ())
(Pdb) s
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/threading.py(750)start()
- self.__started.wait()
(Pdb) Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from
Warning: No stack to get attribute from

My test code (which works) follows the exact same structure as the failing 
code, making the same calls to the threading module's objects' methods:


import threading

class MyThread(threading.Thread):
def __init__(self):
threading.Thread.__init__(self)

def run(self):
print MyThread runs and exits.

def main():
try:
t = MyThread()
t.start()
except Exception as e:
print Failed with {!r}.format(e)

if __name__ == '__main__':
main()


The actual thread object that's failing looks like this:

class RTF2TXT(threading.Thread):

Takes a directory path and a Queue as arguments.  The directory should be
a collection of RTF files, which will be read one-by-one, converted to
text, and each output line will be appended in order to the Queue.

def __init__(self, path, queue):
threading.Thread.__init__(self)
self.path = path
self.queue = queue

def run(self):
logger = logging.getLogger('RTF2TXT')
if not os.path.isdir(self.path):
raise TypeError, supplied path must be a directory
for f in sorted(os.listdir(self.path)):
ff = os.path.join(self.path, f)
args = [ UNRTF_BIN, '-P', '.', '-t', 'unrtf.text',  ff ]
logger.debug(Processing file {} with args {!r}.format(f, args))
p1 = subprocess.Popen( args, stdout=subprocess.PIPE,
universal_newlines=True)
output = p1.communicate()[0]
try:
output = output.decode('utf-8', 'ignore')
except Exception as err:
logger.error(Failed to decode output: {}.format(err))
logger.error(Output was: {!r}.format(output))

for line in output.split(\n):
line = line.strip()
self.queue.put(line)
self.queue.put(EOF)

Note: I only run one instance of this thread.  The Queue object is used to pass 
work off to another thread for later processing.

If I insert that object into the test code and run it instead of MyThread(), I 
get the error.  I can't see anything in there that should cause problems for 
the threading module though... especially since this runs fine on another 
system with the same version of python.

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Re: soap library for python-3.x

2014-04-25 Thread Ben Finney
Deepika Nagpal deep...@cdot.in writes:

 We have to start a project of developing a soap server in python-3.x
 for which I am looking for a soap server side library. Please let me
 know what are the options available and which of these libraries are
 actively maintained. Thanks.

You can start with URL:https://wiki.python.org/moin/WebServices. Good
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Re: MacOS 10.9.2: threading error using python.org 2.7.6 distribution

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Matthew Pounsett
matt.pouns...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I insert that object into the test code and run it instead of MyThread(), 
 I get the error.  I can't see anything in there that should cause problems 
 for the threading module though... especially since this runs fine on another 
 system with the same version of python.

 Any thoughts on what's going on here?

First culprit I'd look at is the mixing of subprocess and threading.
It's entirely possible that something goes messy when you fork from a
thread.

Separately: You're attempting a very messy charset decode there. You
attempt to decode as UTF-8, errors ignored, and if that fails, you log
an error... and continue on with the original bytes. You're risking
shooting yourself in the foot there; I would recommend you have an
explicit fall-back (maybe re-decode as Latin-1??), so the next code is
guaranteed to be working with Unicode. Currently, it might get a
unicode or a str.

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len() of unsized object - ks test

2014-04-25 Thread Jamie Mitchell
Hello all,

I am trying to perform a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test in Python but I'm having a few 
difficulties.

# My files are netCDF so I import them as follows:

control=netCDF4.Dataset('/data/cr1/jmitchel/Q0/swh/controlperiod/south_west/swhcontrol_swest_concatannavg_1D.nc','r')

# The string is simply a 1D array

# Then performing the ks test:

kstest(control,'norm')

# I then get the following error:

File stdin, line 1, in module
  File /usr/local/sci/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scipy/stats/stats.py, line 
3413, in kstest
N = len(vals)
TypeError: len() of unsized object

Any ideas on why this isn't working would be great.

Thanks,

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Re: how to split this kind of text into sections

2014-04-25 Thread Tim Chase
On 2014-04-25 23:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, oyster lepto.pyt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  the above text should be splitted as a LIST with 3 items, and I
  also need to know the KEY for LIST is ['I am section', 'let's
  continue', 'I am using']:
 
 It's not perfectly clear, but I think I have some idea of what
 you're trying to do. Let me restate what I think you want, and you
 can tell be if it's correct.
 
 You have a file which consists of a number of lines. Some of those
 lines begin with the string I am section, others begin let's
 continue, and others begin I am using. You want to collect those
 three sets of lines; inside each collection, every line will have
 that same prefix.
 
 Is that correct? If so, we can certainly help you with that. If not,
 please clarify. :)

My reading of it (and it took me several tries) was that two
subsequent lines would begin with the same N words.  Something like
the following regexp:

  ^(\w.{8,}).*\n\1.*

as the delimiter (choosing 6 arbitrarily as an indication of a
minimum match length to).

A naive (and untested) bit of code might look something like

  MIN_LEN = 6
  def overlap(s1, s2):
chars = []
for c1, c2 in zip(s1,s2):
  if c1 != c2: break
  chars.append(c1)
return ''.join(chars)
  prevline = 
  output_number = 1
  output = defaultdict(list)
  key = None
  with open(input.txt) as f:
for line in f:
  if len(line) = MIN_LEN and prevline[:MIN_LEN] == line[:MIN_LEN]: 
key = overlap(prevline, line)
  output[key].append(line)
  prevline = line

There are some edge-cases such as when multiple sections are
delimited by the same overlap, but this should build up a defaultdict
keyed by the delimiters with the corresponding lines as the values.

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Re: len() of unsized object - ks test

2014-04-25 Thread MRAB

On 2014-04-25 15:07, Jamie Mitchell wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to perform a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test in Python but I'm having a few 
difficulties.

# My files are netCDF so I import them as follows:

control=netCDF4.Dataset('/data/cr1/jmitchel/Q0/swh/controlperiod/south_west/swhcontrol_swest_concatannavg_1D.nc','r')


A brief look at the documentation online says that 'control' is an
instance that _describes_ the dataset:

A netCDF Dataset is a collection of dimensions, groups, variables and 
attributes. Together they describe the meaning of data and relations 
among data fields stored in a netCDF file.


So I don't think that it's the data itself.


# The string is simply a 1D array

# Then performing the ks test:

kstest(control,'norm')

# I then get the following error:

File stdin, line 1, in module
   File /usr/local/sci/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scipy/stats/stats.py, line 
3413, in kstest
 N = len(vals)
TypeError: len() of unsized object

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Re: how to split this kind of text into sections

2014-04-25 Thread Jussi Piitulainen
oyster writes:

 I have a long text, which should be splitted into some sections, where
 all sections have a pattern like following with different KEY.

itertools.groupby, if you know how to extract a key from a given line.

 And the /n/r can not be used to split

Yet you seem to want to have each line as a unit? You could group
lines straight from some file object using itertools.groupby and then
''.join each group.

(It's \n and \r, and \r\n when they are both there, but you can just
let Python read the lines.)
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Re: how to split this kind of text into sections

2014-04-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:07:53 +0800, oyster wrote:

 I have a long text, which should be splitted into some sections, where
 all sections have a pattern like following with different KEY. And the
 /n/r can not be used to split
 
 I don't know whether this can be done easily, for example by using RE
 module

[... snip example ...]

 I hope I have state myself clear.

Clear as mud.

I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean. Can you explain the decision 
that you make to decide whether a line is included, or excluded, or part 
of a section?



 [demo text starts]
 a line we do not need

How do we decide whether the line is ignored? Is it the literal text a 
line we do not need?

for line in lines:
if line == a line we do not need\n:
# ignore this line
continue


 I am section axax
 I am section bbb, we can find that the first 2 lines of this section all
 startswith 'I am section'


Again, is this the *literal* text that you expect?

 .(and here goes many other text)... let's continue to
  let's continue, yeah
  .(and here goes many other text)...
 I am using python
 I am using perl
  .(and here goes many other text)...
 [demo text ends]
 
 the above text should be splitted as a LIST with 3 items, and I also
 need to know the KEY for LIST is ['I am section', 'let's continue', 'I
 am using']:

How do you decide that they are the keys?


 lst=[
  '''I am section axax
 I am section bbb, we can find that the first 2 lines of this section all
 startswith 'I am section'
 .(and here goes many other text)...''',
 
 '''let's continue to
  let's continue, yeah
  .(and here goes many other text)...''',
 
 
 '''I am using python
 I am using perl
  .(and here goes many other text)...'''
 ]

Perhaps it would be better if you show a more realistic example.



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Re: len() of unsized object - ks test

2014-04-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:07:54 -0700, Jamie Mitchell wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I am trying to perform a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test in Python but I'm
 having a few difficulties.
 
 # My files are netCDF so I import them as follows:
 
 control=netCDF4.Dataset('/data/cr1/jmitchel/Q0/swh/controlperiod/
south_west/swhcontrol_swest_concatannavg_1D.nc','r')
 
 # The string is simply a 1D array
 
 # Then performing the ks test:
 
 kstest(control,'norm')
 
 # I then get the following error:
 
 File stdin, line 1, in module
   File
   /usr/local/sci/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scipy/stats/stats.py,
   line 3413, in kstest
 N = len(vals)
 TypeError: len() of unsized object
 
 Any ideas on why this isn't working would be great.

My guess is that you are calling len() on something that doesn't have a 
length :-)

But seriously, first of, what does vals contain? Look at the 
documentation for the kstest function. Does it have a parameter called 
vals? If so, what argument are you providing for that? Make sure that 
it is what you expect it is.

What does the documentation for netCDF4.Dataset say? Perhaps you have to 
*read* from the file, not just open it?

control = netCDF4.Dataset(filename,'r')
data = control.read()  # Perhaps this?
kstest(data,'norm')

But I'm just guessing. You'll need to read the documentation to see what 
arguments are expected, then you'll need to check what arguments you're 
actually providing. Doing:

print(repr(control))

may help.


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Re: how to split this kind of text into sections

2014-04-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:18:22 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:

 In article mailman.9492.1398431281.18130.python-l...@python.org,
  oyster lepto.pyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 [demo text starts]
 a line we do not need
 I am section axax
 I am section bbb, we can find that the first 2 lines of this section
 all startswith 'I am section'
 .(and here goes many other text)... let's continue to
  let's continue, yeah
  .(and here goes many other text)...
 I am using python
 I am using perl
  .(and here goes many other text)...
 [demo text ends]
 
 This kind of looks like a standard INI file.

I don't think so. INI files are a collection of KEY=VALUE or KEY:VALUE 
pairs, and the example above shows nothing like that. The only thing 
which is even vaguely ini-like is the header [demo text starts], and my 
reading of that is that it is *not* part of the file, but just an 
indication that the OP is giving a demo.




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Re: len() of unsized object - ks test

2014-04-25 Thread Jamie Mitchell
On Friday, April 25, 2014 3:07:54 PM UTC+1, Jamie Mitchell wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 
 
 I am trying to perform a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test in Python but I'm having a 
 few difficulties.
 
 
 
 # My files are netCDF so I import them as follows:
 
 
 
 control=netCDF4.Dataset('/data/cr1/jmitchel/Q0/swh/controlperiod/south_west/swhcontrol_swest_concatannavg_1D.nc','r')
 
 
 
 # The string is simply a 1D array
 
 
 
 # Then performing the ks test:
 
 
 
 kstest(control,'norm')
 
 
 
 # I then get the following error:
 
 
 
 File stdin, line 1, in module
 
   File /usr/local/sci/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scipy/stats/stats.py, 
 line 3413, in kstest
 
 N = len(vals)
 
 TypeError: len() of unsized object
 
 
 
 Any ideas on why this isn't working would be great.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 
 Jamie

Thanks for your help.

Steven your right I wasn't reading in the file on netCDF4.Dataset, I was just 
opening it. I have rectified it now - a silly mistake!

Thanks again,

Jamie
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possible bug in re expression?

2014-04-25 Thread Robin Becker

Whilst translating some javascript code I find that this

A=re.compile('.{1,+3}').findall(p)

doesn't give any error, but doesn't manage to find the strings in p that I want 
len(A)==0, the correct translation should have been


A=re.compile('.{1,3}').findall(p)

which works fine.

should

re.compile('.{1,+3}')

raise an error? It doesn't on python 2.7 or 3.3.
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Re: possible bug in re expression?

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote:
 Whilst translating some javascript code I find that this

 A=re.compile('.{1,+3}').findall(p)

 doesn't give any error, but doesn't manage to find the strings in p that I
 want len(A)==0, the correct translation should have been

 A=re.compile('.{1,3}').findall(p)

 which works fine.

 should

 re.compile('.{1,+3}')

 raise an error? It doesn't on python 2.7 or 3.3.

I would say the surprising part is that your js code doesn't mind an
extraneous character in the regex. In a brace like that, negative
numbers have no meaning, so I would expect the definition of the regex
to look for digits, not anything that can be parsed as a number. So
you've uncovered a bug in your code that just happened to work in js.

Should it raise an error? Good question. Quite possibly it should,
unless that has some other meaning that I'm not familiar with. Do you
know how it's being interpreted? I'm not entirely sure what you mean
by len(A)==0, as == isn't an operator in Python or JS. Best way to
continue, I think, would be to use regular expression matching (rather
than findall'ing) and something other than dot, and tabulate input
strings, expected result (match or no match), what JS does, and what
Python does. For instance:

Regex: ^a{1,3}$

: Not expected, not Python
a: Expected, Python
aa: Expected, Python
aaa: Expected, Python
: Not expected, not Python

Just what we'd expect. Now try the same thing with the plus in there.
I'm finding that none of the above strings yields a match. Maybe
there's something else being matched?

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Re: Moving to an OOP model from an classically imperitive one

2014-04-25 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
Héllo,

I have no definitive answer regarding the OOP/functional mismatch.

2014-04-24 18:53 GMT+02:00 tim.thel...@gmail.com:

  A reasonable compromise might be to keep the *data* assocated
 
  with a SubuserProgram in a class, maybe together with a few
 
  methods that are tightly coupled to it, but have the major
 
  pieces of functionality such as install() implemented by
 
  separate functions that operate *on* the class, rather than
 
  being inside it.
 

 I think this is sound advice.  I'm still not sure what I'll come up with.

 One of the other reasons why an OOP model might be right for me is that of
 caching.  I currently load a lot of attributes regarding programs from
 disk, and I do so multiple times, I could either pass those attributes
 around, OR, using a class, I could store those attributes in the object
 after loading them just once.


You could also use a generator with a somekind of memoization/cache.


 I have no experience with OOP except in the domain of GUIs (where it seems
 inescapable, all major toolkits use OOP)


I have some experience in GUIs with Python in a proprietary framework.

I have a bias for OOP and Python in particular. I started exploring Scheme
through Guile and other languages more or less. I am asking myself the
question what is the interest of functional programming or so called.
Scheme doesn't enforce functional code or immutability. It's actually more
open somewhat because of the macro system among other things. Outside any
performance considerations or implementations details like GIL. Scheme and
(all?) *LISP don't use the infix notation*. probably because you can work
around it but IMO not fully. The infix notations allows to write things
like: people.move_to(paris). It's easy to read, as «Subject Verb
Complement»... Class based OOP is prefered because of that, in a lot of
situations. IMO, if OOP won, it's because of readability, and in particular
Class based OOP. JavaScript OOP is useless in asynchronous context, see
http://repl.it/Rrf/2. Maybe you can work around this feature with
JavaScript descriptors easly, I did not try that.

so I'm not yet sure how this will turn out.


I skimmed through the code, but it's very superficial reading, like I
installed pycharm to ask for help...:

- CamelCase is usually for class names. That said, sometime variable
holding classes are called my_object_class or my_object_factory
- I think permissions.py would be easier to read with a class... or a
function that initialize the dictionary as intented and just use dict
methods onward.
- To I read code, I have a systematic method I call
gunshot/destructive/production rules/function inlining/develop (as the dual
of factorize).

I started with subuser.py, I got: http://dpaste.com/1797075/

def getSubuserCommands():
   Returns a list of commands that may be called by the user. 

  def isPathToSubuserCommand(path):
  directory, executableName = os.path.split(path)
  return executableName.startswith(subuser-)

  externalCommandPaths = queryPATH(isPathToSubuserCommand)

  externalCommands = []
  subuserPrefixLength=len(subuser-)

  for externalCommandPath in externalCommandPaths:
commandDir, executableName = os.path.split(externalCommandPath)
commandName = executableName[subuserPrefixLength:]
externalCommands.append(commandName)

  external_subuser_commands = list(set(externalCommands))

  return list(set(
os.listdir(paths.getSubuserCommandsDir())).difference(nonCommands)) +
external_subuser_commands


It's kind of easier to read.

Gremlin is a DSL that allows to navigate a graph. That's exactly what
happens here (and all the
timehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transderivational_search long
nowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_syndrome#The_Physio-Kundalini_Syndrome_Index
).wrapped_ 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net.artin(tesseracthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract_%28disambiguation%29).
I'd like to write the above as:

 subuser.commands = (subuser.path.directories +
subuser.user.path.directories).filter(is_command).distinct().memoize()

I think it's possible in Ruby.

I'm quite interested by the subject. Elm language (see
reactconfhttp://reactconf.com/)
and your graphical
IDEhttp://thobbs.cz/works/2013/graphical-elm/Intro.htmlis very
interesting, do you know about Domain
Specific Modeling Forum http://www.dsmforum.org/? I started to put some
thinking grouped together. Also I started proto-py to gather code ideas,
but it's still offline. My plan is to mimick subuser to see, what happens.

Can be of interest Scala @ Systems @
Twitterhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7618969

Nice project by the way, with a better see also section that I could do :)
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Re: retrieve source code from code object as returned by compile()

2014-04-25 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
in python3, I do inspect.getsource(object)
[dochttps://docs.python.org/3/library/inspect.html#inspect.getsource],
I don't know the limitations.

On Python 2, there is meta https://pypi.python.org/pypi/meta.

My interest is different, I use to retrieve the definition of function to
submit it to a database, instead of stored procedures, but I have the
source of the code. It can also be used to retrieve the ast.


2014-04-25 4:50 GMT+02:00 Justin Ezequiel justin.ezequ...@gmail.com:

 On Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:53:38 PM UTC+8, Gregory Ewing wrote:
  Alternatively you could create a .pyc file out of the code
  object and then use Easy Python Decompiler on that. The
  following snippet of code should do that:
 
  (Taken from:
 
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8627835/generate-pyc-from-python-ast)

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Re: how to split this kind of text into sections

2014-04-25 Thread Terry Reedy

On 4/25/2014 9:07 AM, oyster wrote:

I have a long text, which should be splitted into some sections, where
all sections have a pattern like following with different KEY.


Computers are worse at reading your mind than humans. If you can write 
rules that another person could follow, THEN we could help you translate 
the rules to Python.


If you have 1 moderate length file or a few short files, I would edit 
them by hand to remove ignore lines and put a blank line between 
sections. A program to do the rest would then be easy.



the above text should be splitted as a LIST with 3 items, and I also
need to know the KEY for LIST is ['I am section', 'let's continue', 'I
am using']:


This suggests that the rule for keys is 'first 3 words of a line, with 
contractions counted as 2 words'. Correct?


Another possible rule is 'a member of the following list: ...', as you 
gave above but presumably expanded.


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Proper deletion of selected items during map iteration in for loop

2014-04-25 Thread Charles Hixson
What is the proper way to delete selected items during iteration of a 
map?  What I want to do is:


for (k, v) in m.items():
   if f(k):
  #  do some processing of v and save result elsewhere
  del m[k]

But this gives (as should be expected):
RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration
In the past I've accumulated the keys to be deleted in a separate list, 
but this time there are likely to be a large number of them, so is there 
some better way?


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Re: possible bug in re expression?

2014-04-25 Thread MRAB

On 2014-04-25 17:55, Chris Angelico wrote:

On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote:

Whilst translating some javascript code I find that this

A=re.compile('.{1,+3}').findall(p)

doesn't give any error, but doesn't manage to find the strings in p that I
want len(A)==0, the correct translation should have been

A=re.compile('.{1,3}').findall(p)

which works fine.

should

re.compile('.{1,+3}')

raise an error? It doesn't on python 2.7 or 3.3.


I would say the surprising part is that your js code doesn't mind an
extraneous character in the regex. In a brace like that, negative
numbers have no meaning, so I would expect the definition of the regex
to look for digits, not anything that can be parsed as a number. So
you've uncovered a bug in your code that just happened to work in js.

Should it raise an error? Good question. Quite possibly it should,
unless that has some other meaning that I'm not familiar with. Do you
know how it's being interpreted? I'm not entirely sure what you mean
by len(A)==0, as == isn't an operator in Python or JS. Best way to
continue, I think, would be to use regular expression matching (rather
than findall'ing) and something other than dot, and tabulate input
strings, expected result (match or no match), what JS does, and what
Python does. For instance:

Regex: ^a{1,3}$

: Not expected, not Python
a: Expected, Python
aa: Expected, Python
aaa: Expected, Python
: Not expected, not Python

Just what we'd expect. Now try the same thing with the plus in there.
I'm finding that none of the above strings yields a match. Maybe
there's something else being matched?


The DEBUG flag helps to show what's happening:

 r = re.compile('.{1,+3}', flags=re.DEBUG)
any None
literal 123
literal 49
max_repeat 1 4294967295
  literal 44
literal 51
literal 125

When it's parsing the pattern it's doing this:

.OK, match any character
{Looks like the start of a quantifier
1OK, the minimum count
,OK, the maximum count probably follows
+Error; it looks like the '{' was a literal

Trying again from the brace:

{Literal
1Literal
,Literal
+Repeat the previous item one or more times
3Literal
}Literal

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Re: Proper deletion of selected items during map iteration in for loop

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Charles Hixson
charleshi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 What is the proper way to delete selected items during iteration of a map?
 What I want to do is:

 for (k, v) in m.items():
if f(k):
   #  do some processing of v and save result elsewhere
   del m[k]

 But this gives (as should be expected):
 RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration
 In the past I've accumulated the keys to be deleted in a separate list, but
 this time there are likely to be a large number of them, so is there some
 better way?

One easy way is to explicitly coalesce the items() view into a list:

for k, v in list(m.items()):

That would work, but you effectively duplicate your entire dictionary
into a list. More likely, you should simply snapshot the keys:

for k in list(m):
# Your example code isn't using v, but I
# assume the real code does
v = m[k]
if f(k):
# as above
del m[k]

This and your previous technique of accumulating a delete-me list
would be the two standard ways to filter a dictionary with a loop. (I
say with a loop because there's a third way to filter a dictionary,
and that's with a comprehension. But I don't know of a really clean
way to save v elsewhere for the cases where the dict isn't keeping
that key.)

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Re: Proper deletion of selected items during map iteration in for loop

2014-04-25 Thread Matthew Barnett

On 2014-04-25 18:53, Charles Hixson wrote:

What is the proper way to delete selected items during iteration of a
map?  What I want to do is:

for (k, v) in m.items():
 if f(k):
#  do some processing of v and save result elsewhere
del m[k]

But this gives (as should be expected):
  RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration
In the past I've accumulated the keys to be deleted in a separate list,
but this time there are likely to be a large number of them, so is there
some better way?


The other way is to build a new dictionary.

Actually, there's a third way. Iterate over a snapshot:

for (k, v) in list(m.items()):
if f(k):
#  do some processing of v and save result elsewhere
del m[k]

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Re: possible bug in re expression?

2014-04-25 Thread Terry Reedy

On 4/25/2014 12:30 PM, Robin Becker wrote:

Whilst translating some javascript code I find that this

A=re.compile('.{1,+3}').findall(p)

doesn't give any error, but doesn't manage to find the strings in p that
I want len(A)==0, the correct translation should have been

A=re.compile('.{1,3}').findall(p)

which works fine.

should

re.compile('.{1,+3}')

raise an error? It doesn't on python 2.7 or 3.3.


And it should not because it is not an error. '+' means 'match 1 or more 
occurrences of the preceding re' and the preceding re is ','.


 re.match('a{1,+3}', 'a{1,,,3}').group()
'a{1,,,3}'

I suppose that one could argue that '{' alone should be treated as 
special immediately, and not just when a matching '}' is found, and 
should disable other special meanings. I wonder what JS does if there is 
no matching '}'?


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Re: xlutils 1.7.1 released!

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Withers

*sigh* subject line fail...

On 25/04/2014 19:48, Chris Withers wrote:

Hi All,

I'm pleased to announce the release of xlutils 1.7.1:

http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xlutils/1.7.1

This release has a couple of small changes:

- Add support for time cells in when using View classes.

- Add support for ``.xlsx`` files when using View classes, at the
   expense of formatting information being available.

Full docs here:

http://pythonhosted.org/xlutils/

Details of all things Python and Excel related can be found here:

http://www.python-excel.org/

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Re: Proper deletion of selected items during map iteration in for loop

2014-04-25 Thread Terry Reedy

On 4/25/2014 2:04 PM, Matthew Barnett wrote:

On 2014-04-25 18:53, Charles Hixson wrote:

What is the proper way to delete selected items during iteration of a
map?  What I want to do is:

for (k, v) in m.items():
 if f(k):
#  do some processing of v and save result elsewhere
del m[k]

But this gives (as should be expected):
  RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration
In the past I've accumulated the keys to be deleted in a separate list,
but this time there are likely to be a large number of them, so is there
some better way?


The other way is to build a new dictionary.


If you expect to delete more than half the keys *and* if there are no 
other references to the dict, such that you need the particular object 
mutated, this might be better.



Actually, there's a third way. Iterate over a snapshot:

for (k, v) in list(m.items()):
 if f(k):
 #  do some processing of v and save result elsewhere
 del m[k]


Since a pre-snapshot of items or even just keys will be longer than a 
list of keys to be deleted, I would stick with the latter.


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xlutils 1.7.0 released!

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Withers

Hi All,

I'm pleased to announce the release of xlutils 1.7.1:

http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xlutils/1.7.1

This release has a couple of small changes:

- Add support for time cells in when using View classes.

- Add support for ``.xlsx`` files when using View classes, at the
  expense of formatting information being available.

Full docs here:

http://pythonhosted.org/xlutils/

Details of all things Python and Excel related can be found here:

http://www.python-excel.org/

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Re: MacOS 10.9.2: threading error using python.org 2.7.6 distribution

2014-04-25 Thread Ned Deily
In article 
captjjmpxuj9n3cdqch0ojavksfvrqjwhh1gst3fafkcgyw5...@mail.gmail.com,
 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Matthew Pounsett
 matt.pouns...@gmail.com wrote:
  If I insert that object into the test code and run it instead of 
  MyThread(), I get the error.  I can't see anything in there that should 
  cause problems for the threading module though... especially since this 
  runs fine on another system with the same version of python.
 
  Any thoughts on what's going on here?
 
 First culprit I'd look at is the mixing of subprocess and threading.
 It's entirely possible that something goes messy when you fork from a
 thread.

FWIW, the Python 2 version of subprocess is known to be thread-unsafe.  
There is a Py2 backport available on PyPI of the improved Python 3 
subprocess module:

http://bugs.python.org/issue20318
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/subprocess32/

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Re: Proper deletion of selected items during map iteration in for loop

2014-04-25 Thread Tim Chase
On 2014-04-25 14:50, Terry Reedy wrote:
 If you expect to delete more than half the keys *and* if there are
 no other references to the dict, such that you need the particular
 object mutated, this might be better.

If that's your precondition, then it might be better to do something
like

  keep = {}
  for (k, v) in m.items():
if f(k):
  #  do some processing of v and save result elsewhere
else:
  keep[k] = v
  m.clear()
  m.update(keep)
  del keep  # optionally free this back up when done

This would allow things that refer to m to retain the same
reference, but should have the same result as deleting them without
having to duplicate what the OP describes as a large volume of data.

Either way, the options are mostly

1) clone the entire .items() into a list, and iterate over that for
deleting from your underlying view (what Chris  Matthew suggest)

2) iterate over the items, storing up the ones to delete and delete
them all at the end (what the OP mentions having tried before)

3) iterate over the items, storing up the ones to keep, delete the
rest, and then put the kept ones back (what I code above)

The choice between #2 and #3 hinge on whether you expect to delete
more than half the items.  If you plan to delete more than half, store
the ones to keep (#3); if you plan to delete less than half, store
the ones to delete (#2).

-tkc





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Re: Installing PyGame?

2014-04-25 Thread Gregory Ewing

Ned Deily wrote:
I disagree that 
installing a bunch of disparate software from various sources via binary 
installers and/or source is to be preferred to a modern third-party 
package manager on OS X like MacPorts or Homebrew.  That's just setting 
yourself up for a long-term maintenance headache.  What could be easier 
than:


sudo port install py27-game


That's fine if it works, but the OP said he'd already tried
various things like that and they *didn't* work for him. And
I've had trouble in the past with MacPorts and/or Fink (can't
remember exactly which one it was) installing libraries that
were incompatible with other things I use and messing them
up, so I've learned to be wary of them.

Those problems were probably due to some unusual features of
my setup, and wouldn't occur for most other people. But
because I don't use those tools, I can't give any
recommendations about how to troubleshoot them. All I can
do is explain what works for me.

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Re: Installing PyGame?

2014-04-25 Thread Gregory Ewing

Ryan Hiebert wrote:

 I've chosen to use
MacPorts because it keeps things separate, because when things get hosed 
using the system libraries, I don't have to erase my whole system to get 
back to a vanilla OS X install.


I don't know what you're doing to hose your system that badly.
I've never had a problem that couldn't be fixed by deleting
whatever the last thing was I added that caused it.

Also the problems I had with one of the third-party package
managers was because it *didn't* keep its own stuff properly
separated. It installed libraries on my regular library path
so that they got picked up by things that they weren't
appropriate for.

I'm not saying that MacPorts is a bad thing. If it's the
*only* thing you use, it's probably fine. But I use a wide
variety of libraries, not all of them available that way,
and many of them installed from source, and I find it's
less hassle overall to do everything the native MacOSX way
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Re: retrieve source code from code object as returned by compile()

2014-04-25 Thread Gregory Ewing

Amirouche Boubekki wrote:
in python3, I do inspect.getsource(object) [doc 
https://docs.python.org/3/library/inspect.html#inspect.getsource], I 
don't know the limitations.


The limitation relevant here is that it requires the
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feedparser error

2014-04-25 Thread tad na
python 2.7.2

The following code has an error and I can not figure out why:

import feedparser
d = feedparser.parse('http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock.rss')
numb = len(d['entries'])
for post in d.entries:
print post.pubDate+\n

---
the error is :

print post.pubDate+\n
  File build\bdist.win32\egg\feedparser.py, line 416, in __getattr__
raise AttributeError, object has no attribute '%s' % key
AttributeError: object has no attribute 'pubDate'

---

The only thing I can think of is feedparser does not like 
uppercase(pubDate)?
I can not change someone else's rss.   What can I do here?
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Using Python to get push notifications from an RSS feed?

2014-04-25 Thread John Salerno
As a little project for myself (and to help get immediate player notes for my 
fantasy baseball team), I'm wondering what modules I might need to do this. 
Basically, I'd like to get immediate notification when a new player note has 
been added to an RSS feed.

Since it will only be for specified players, I suppose I would use something 
like ElementTree to read the data and figure out if the update is about a 
relevant player, but how do I check the RSS feed (constantly) in the first 
place? I was reading a little about Universal Feed Parser, but I'm still not 
sure about how to do the push notification aspect.

I'd like immediate notifications if possible, or will I have to settle for 
periodically checking the feed? If the latter, how do I ensure I only check the 
newest updates since the last time, and not everything?

Thanks!
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Play back and record sound *at the same time* for n seconds

2014-04-25 Thread tfischer . ncku
Hello,

to program an art project that involves sound
feedback I need a way to get a python script to
to play back and to record sound *at the same time*
for n seconds.

Which strategy/sound module would you recommend,
and could you post dummy code that shows how to
get it to play and record simultaneously?

Thanks a lot!
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[issue21340] Possible concurrency bug in asyncio, AttributeError in tasks.py

2014-04-25 Thread Guido van Rossum

Guido van Rossum added the comment:

Oh wait, it looks like the assert failed because KeyboardInterrupt hit right at 
that point. I ran the program a few times and when I hit ^C I get a traceback 
at a different point in the code each time. This is as expected. You must have 
hit the rare case where it hit right at the assert -- then the behavior I 
described can happen.

Anyway, I think this would fix it:

--- a/asyncio/tasks.py  Fri Apr 18 09:51:35 2014 -0700
+++ b/asyncio/tasks.py  Thu Apr 24 23:44:57 2014 -0700
@@ -76,7 +76,8 @@
 return self.gen.gi_code

 def __del__(self):
-frame = self.gen.gi_frame
+gen = getattr(self, 'gen', None)
+frame = getattr(gen, 'gi_frame', None)
 if frame is not None and frame.f_lasti == -1:
 func = self.func
 code = func.__code__

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[issue17552] socket.sendfile()

2014-04-25 Thread akira

akira added the comment:

 I'm confused. Why is blocksize necessary at all?

My guess, it may be used to implement socket.send()-based fallback. Its meaning 
could be the same as *length* parameter in shutil.copyfileobj

The fallback is useful if os.sendfile doesn't exists or it doesn't accept given 
parameters e.g., if *file* is not mmap-like enough for os.sendfile.

  using os.path.getsize(file.name) looks risky to me

 Why not fstat(fd) ?

os.path.getsize(file.name) in msg217121 is a pseudo-code (as said
in the comment) that expresses the intent that if *nbytes* parameter
is not specified (None) then socket.sendfile should send bytes from
the file until EOF is reached. 

In real code, if *nbytes is None*;  I would just call os.sendfile
repeatedly with a large constant *nbytes* parameter
until os.sendfile returns 0 (meaning EOF) 
without asking the file size explicitly

It assumes socket.sendfile doesn't specify its behaviour if the file
size changes between the calls.

The pseudo-code in msg217121 is my opinion about the public interface for 
socket.sendfile -- It is different from the one in the current 
socket-sendfile5.patch

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[issue21348] File C:\Python27\lib\distutils\msvc9compiler.py, line 295, in query_vcvarsal l raise ValueError(str(list(result.keys()))) ValueError: [u'path']

2014-04-25 Thread Stefan Krah

Stefan Krah added the comment:

This looks like a duplicate of #7511.

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[issue20434] Fix error handler of _PyString_Resize() on allocation failure

2014-04-25 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset 4f79c3827adc by Kristján Valur Jónsson in branch '2.7':
Issue #20434 Correct error handlin of _PyString_Resize and _PyBytes_Resize
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4f79c3827adc

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[issue21349] crash in winreg SetValueEx with memoryview

2014-04-25 Thread Berker Peksag

Changes by Berker Peksag berker.pek...@gmail.com:


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[issue21225] io.py: Improve docstrings for classes

2014-04-25 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset e33a036fd784 by Andrew Kuchling in branch '3.4':
#21225: copy docstrings from base classes
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e33a036fd784

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[issue21336] ntpath.splitdrive fails on None argument

2014-04-25 Thread Eric V. Smith

Eric V. Smith added the comment:

I'm going to close this as not a bug. Feel free to reopen it if there's use 
case for passing in None.

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[issue1465646] test_grp test_pwd fail

2014-04-25 Thread yaccz

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Also fails on group + which is afaik a thing for ldap.

tested with python 2.6.9 on suse linux enterprise

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[issue21350] bug in file.writelines accepting buffers

2014-04-25 Thread Brian Kearns

New submission from Brian Kearns:

In file.writelines, the conditions in this if statement are bogus. If 
f-f_binary and AsReadBuffer succeeds (returns 0), AsCharBuf is still tried. 
So, for example, passing an array('c') to a file('wb').writelines fails, when 
it seems the intention of the code/comments was to have it succeed.

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[issue21350] bug in file.writelines accepting buffers

2014-04-25 Thread Brian Kearns

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[issue21350] bug in file.writelines accepting buffers

2014-04-25 Thread Brian Kearns

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[issue21305] PEP 466: update os.urandom

2014-04-25 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe

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[issue21349] crash in winreg SetValueEx with memoryview

2014-04-25 Thread Zachary Ware

New submission from Zachary Ware:

The new test fails with the patch applied:

==
ERROR: test_setvalueex_with_memoryview (__main__.LocalWinregTests)
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  File P:\ath\to\2.7\cpython\lib\test\test_winreg.py, line 336, in 
test_setvalueex_with_memoryview
SetValueEx(ck, test_name, None, REG_BINARY, memoryview('val'))
TypeError: Objects of type 'memoryview' can not be used as binary registry 
values

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[issue21349] crash in winreg SetValueEx with memoryview

2014-04-25 Thread Brian Kearns

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Oops, updated test.

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[issue21349] crash in winreg SetValueEx with memoryview

2014-04-25 Thread Brian Kearns

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[issue17552] socket.sendfile()

2014-04-25 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'

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Given the opinions expressed so far I:
- got rid of the blocksize parameter
- got rid of the use_fallback parameter
- added a count parameter
- used os.fstat() to figure out the total file size and passed it directly to 
sendfile()

I'm attaching socket-sendfile6.patch which includes docs and many new tests.
Hopefully this should be the final one (yet to review though).

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[issue21344] save scores or ratios in difflib get_close_matches

2014-04-25 Thread Russell Ballestrini

Russell Ballestrini added the comment:

Adding patch to update tests to use Tim Peters suggestion of assertListEqual 
over assertEqual for list compares.

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[issue21347] Don't use a list argument together with shell=True in subprocess' docs

2014-04-25 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue21338] Silent mode for compileall

2014-04-25 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo added the comment:

Patch looks to me comprehensive and backward-compatible.  Thanks Thomas!

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[issue21351] refcounts not respected at process exit

2014-04-25 Thread Min RK

New submission from Min RK:

Reference counts appear to be ignored at process cleanup, which allows 
inter-dependent `__del__` methods to hang on exit. The problem does not seem to 
occur for garbage collection of any other context (functions, etc.).

I have a case where one object must be cleaned up after some descendent 
objects. Those descendents hold a reference on the parent and not vice versa, 
which should guarantee that they are cleaned up before the parent. This 
guarantee is satisfied by Python 3.3 and below, but not 3.4.

The attached test script hangs at exit on most (not all) runs on 3.4, but exits 
cleanly on earlier versions.

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[issue21351] refcounts not respected at process exit

2014-04-25 Thread Nathan Stocks

Nathan Stocks added the comment:

This affects me as well.  I have to manually clean up objects in the correct 
order in script I am working on under 3.4.0.  I have this problem under both OS 
X 10.9.2 Mavericks and under CentOS 6.5

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[issue21352] improve indexing

2014-04-25 Thread bob gailer

New submission from bob gailer:

Inconsistencies / confusion with documentation Index Tab. Example (line numbers 
added for comments that follow):

1 max
2   built-in function
3 max  (datetime.date attribute)
4   (datetime.datetime attribute)
5   (datetime.time attribute)
6 max() built-in function
7   (decimal.Context method)
8   (decimal.Decimal method)
9   (in module audioloop)

The following all lead to confusion and frustration:
Having 3 rows (1, 3, 6)that begin with max. 
Having an entry (1) that does nothing when double-clicked.
double-clicking (2) takes us to a reference rather than a definition.

RECOMMENDATION:
change to:
max() built-in function
  (sequence operation)
  (decimal.Context method)
  (decimal.Decimal method)
max
  (datetime.date attribute)
  (datetime.datetime attribute)
  (datetime.time attribute)

where double-clicking the first line goes to the max() definition
in 2. Built-in Functions


These comments apply, with a number of variations, to most built-in functions 
index entries.

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[issue21352] improve indexing

2014-04-25 Thread Zachary Ware

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[issue21344] save scores or ratios in difflib get_close_matches

2014-04-25 Thread Tim Peters

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Russell, I'm still looking for a sufficiently compelling use case here:  
something tangible and useful that can be done with the new function that can't 
be easily done now.

I plan to write a web API that accepts a word, 'doge' and returns a list of 
possible suggestions and scores is not a use case for scores.  It's merely 
tautological that if you want to return scores then you need a function that 
does return scores.  A use case would more address _why_ the scores are 
useful.  What would the user of your web API _do_ with the scores?  What's the 
point?

users may want to cache (memonize) common queries for super fast look ups 
isn't a use case for scores either.  If they wanted to, they could already 
cache the results of calling `get_close_matches()` - the results of any 
function can be cached; exposing scores has nothing to do with whether results 
can be cached.

the new function will give end-users the opportunity to inspect the scoring 
algos output is also more tautological than a use case.  _Why_ would a user 
want to stare at the scores?  What useful things(s) could they do with them?

I was added to this issue because I wrote these functions to begin with.  At 
the time, I thought - and asked - about exposing the scores, but nobody 
(including me) had a _use_ for doing so that justified the added bother of 
writing  maintaining the additional code and tests and docs.

I'm stilling looking for a use here more substantial than, essentially, just 
saying well, without showing the scores we can't show the scores. To me the 
scores just aren't interesting beyond which words' scores exceed a cutoff, and 
the ordering of words based on their similarity scores - but 
`get_close_matches()` already captures those uses.  What other use(s) _do_ you 
have for the scores?  I'm afraid just to display them isn't compelling enough 
- you're the only one ever to ask for that, and you already know how to do it 
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[issue21351] refcounts not respected at process exit

2014-04-25 Thread Tim Peters

Tim Peters added the comment:

Just noting that, for me, the problem goes away if

del c, c2

is added as the last line of the test.  This suggests the problem is due to 
changes in end-of-life module cleanup.

Without that line, I see 3 kinds of output:

1.
del child
del child
del parent
parent deleted

2.
del parent
parent still has 2 children
parent still has 2 children
... repeated forever ...

3.
del child
del parent
parent still has 1 children
parent still has 1 children
... repeated forever ...

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[issue16104] Compileall script: add option to use multiple cores

2014-04-25 Thread Jim Jewett

Jim Jewett added the comment:

ProcessPoolExecutor already defaults to using cpu_count if max_workers is None. 
 Consistency with that might be useful too.  (and a default of 1 to mean 
nothing in parallel is sensible...)

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[issue21351] refcounts not respected at process exit

2014-04-25 Thread Tim Peters

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[issue21344] save scores or ratios in difflib get_close_matches

2014-04-25 Thread Russell Ballestrini

Russell Ballestrini added the comment:

Tim,

You bring up some great points and insight I was missing.

To me the scores just aren't interesting beyond which words' scores exceed a 
cutoff, and the ordering of words based on their similarity scores - but 
`get_close_matches()` already captures those uses.

For a *word*, and a corpus of *possibilities*, how does one choose a 
satisfactory *cutoff* without inspecting the output of the scoring algorithm?

Personally, I don't want to inpect scores for inspection sake, I want to 
inspect scores so I can make an informed decision for the *n* and *cutoff* 
input arguments.

Its true that after reading and digesting the source code for 
`get_close_matches()` I could (and did) implement a version that returns 
scores.  My goal was to share this code and what better way then to fix the 
problem upstream.

I understand the desire to keep the standard library lean and useful to reduce 
the amount of burden the code is to maintain.  I will understand if we decide 
not to include these patches, I can always maintain a fork and share on pypi.

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[issue20050] distutils should check PyPI certs when connecting to it

2014-04-25 Thread William Tisäter

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[issue21314] Document '/' in signatures

2014-04-25 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue21321] itertools.islice() doesn't release reference to the source iterator when the slice is exhausted

2014-04-25 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue21325] Missing Generic EXIF library for images in the standard library

2014-04-25 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

Generic ideas like this, without specific patch or patch prospect, should be 
first posted on python-ideas. You can reopen this if there is a concrete 
proposal with some support.

However, I agree with Brett about an Exif module. We do not even have an image 
library in the stdlib. And according to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchangeable_image_file_format
the 'standard' is in practice a bit of a mess with constantly added extensions. 
There are multiple Exif modules on PyPi and that is where they belong, along 
with 1000s of other niche modules.
https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=searchterm=Exifsubmit=search

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[issue21337] Add tests for Tix

2014-04-25 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue21341] Configuring 'font' with ttk.Style for 'TEntry' does not change displayed font

2014-04-25 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

This appears to be a tcl/tk(ttk) issue. You rediscovered what is documented 
here:
http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/web/ttk-Entry.html
Table 40. ttk.Entry options
fontUse this option to specify the font of the text that will appear in the 
widget; see Section 5.4, “Type fonts”. For reasons that are unclear to the 
author, this option cannot be specified with a style.

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[issue8387] use universal newline mode in csv module examples

2014-04-25 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue21351] refcounts not respected at process exit

2014-04-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou added the comment:

(the 3 kinds of output are probably due to hash randomization)

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[issue21351] refcounts not respected at process exit

2014-04-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou added the comment:

Looking into it, it's normal for refcounts to be ignored: those objects 
belong to reference cycles:

tstgc.__dict__
- p (or c, or c2)
- p.__class__ (i.e. Parent, or Child respectivel))
- Parent.__dict__
- Parent.__del__ (or Parent.__init__, or Parent.child)
- Parent.__del__.__globals__ (which is tstgc.__dict__)

Since p, c, c2 belong to reference cycles, they get collected in an undefined 
order.

Obviously, Parent.__del__ is buggy (it runs into an infinite loop when 
self.children != 0).

Before Python 3.4, the module globals would have been set to None at shutdown, 
which would have broken those cycles, but caused other well-known problems. 
It's probably impossible to find a scheme that satisfies all constraints, so 
we'll see in the future if the new scheme brings more drawbacks than advantages 
(right now, my own evaluation is obviously that it's a step forward).

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[issue21351] refcounts not respected at process exit

2014-04-25 Thread Tim Peters

Tim Peters added the comment:

I think Antoine is right on all counts.  The most surprising bit may be that p, 
c, and c2 are in reference cycles, but - surprising or not - that's always been 
true.  The reason it worked before 3.4 is that CPython happened to break the 
cycles via the nasty hack of binding each module global to None at shutdown.

minrk, note that gc in CPython does not (for example) run in a separate thread. 
 That's why, when it triggers, the infinite loop in your Parent.__del__ will in 
fact run forever.  gc runs in the same thread (the main thread) as 
Parent.__del__, so spinning in the Parent.__del__ loop prevents anything else 
(including more gc) from ever being done.

Take out the infinite loop, and all three objects (p, c, c2) are collected.  
But the order in which they're collected isn't defined (because they're all in 
cyclic trash), and even changes from run to run because hash randomization 
changes the order in which they appear when traversing testgc.__dict__.

An interesting question remaining is how you _could_ force a finalization order 
in this case, in a way that doesn't rely on implementation accidents.  A clean 
way doesn't spring to my mind immediately.

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[issue21321] itertools.islice() doesn't release reference to the source iterator when the slice is exhausted

2014-04-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou added the comment:

Haven't reviewed the patch, but you should definitely add a unit test for the 
bugfix.

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[issue21349] crash in winreg SetValueEx with memoryview

2014-04-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou added the comment:

Brian, it's not obvious (to me) what the original issue is (crash?) and why 
the new test expects a TypeError.
Also, is it a 2.7-only issue or does it also affect Python 3?

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[issue21349] crash in winreg SetValueEx with memoryview

2014-04-25 Thread Brian Kearns

Brian Kearns added the comment:

Are you aware of the old/new buffer interfaces and their usages? Did you 
actually try the code? crash would be obvious.

Objects that support only the new buffer interface define tp_as_buffer with 
fields representing the old buffer interface as null.

So, everywhere that uses the old buffer interface usually checks both 
tp_as_buffer != NULL and tp_as_buffer-bf_getreadbuffer != NULL. That second 
check is missing here before calling bf_getreadbuffer.

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[issue21353] document Popen.args attribute

2014-04-25 Thread akira

New submission from akira:

It is convenient to have Popen.args available. Especially when dealing 
with multiple processes e.g., to log failures mentioning the command
that was used to spawn the child process.

subprocess module itself uses it while raising CalledProcessError or 
TimeoutExpired exceptions.

The documentation patch is attached.

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assignee: docs@python
components: Documentation
files: docs-subprocess-document_Popen_args_attribute.patch
keywords: patch
messages: 217183
nosy: akira, docs@python
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: document Popen.args attribute
type: enhancement
versions: Python 3.3, Python 3.4, Python 3.5
Added file: 
http://bugs.python.org/file35042/docs-subprocess-document_Popen_args_attribute.patch

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