Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com writes:
You said this:
The 80 character line limit is *not* driven by a limitation of
computer technology; it is driven by a limitation of human
cognition. For that reason, it remains relevant until human
cognition in the general reading population
On Thu, 15 May 2014 17:12:57 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
A definitive Python source file could be binary, XML, .py, .ast,
whatever,
Containing *what*? You can't just wave your hands and say binary. What
sort of binary file? Perhaps a JPEG file, where red triangles of
different sizes
On Thu, 15 May 2014 21:36:49 -0700, chris wrote:
Any ideas about what this might mean?
[jumping ahead]
digital_data_set = (sample_bytes.pop(0) 8 | sample_bytes.pop(0))
IndexError: pop from empty list
sample_bytes is an empty list. Or it could be a list with just a single
sample. You try
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
Source code is, *by definition*, the definitive version. (It's the
SOURCE, see?) Zipping the source code just means that the *source*
inside the zip file is the definitive version, not the compressed
binary data.
I find the Free
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info:
On Thu, 15 May 2014 17:12:57 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
A definitive Python source file could be binary, XML, .py, .ast,
whatever,
Containing *what*? You can't just wave your hands and say binary.
I sure can and am.
Besides, where
On Thu, 15 May 2014 17:06:13 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
The claim being made is that 79/80 is a fundamental, cognitive limit and
has no relation to technological changes.
I don't believe anyone has made that claim. You are reading a statement
about general (typical, average) behaviour, and
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Containing *what*? You can't just wave your hands and say binary. What
sort of binary file? Perhaps a JPEG file, where red triangles of
different sizes represent keywords. Variable names can be encoded
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Well, actually, any .py file *does* specify a unique AST. Nothing would
prevent the text editor from presenting it according to your
preferences. They all do that to a degree anyway (colors, fonts), but
they could take
ch...@freeranger.com wrote:
No, that was pretty much what I was looking for. If anyone has an answer
to the deeper question, that would be icing on the cake.
What is interesting is that usually the traceback shows the line of code
that I invoke which, deep inside a library I'm using, has
Hi,
My question may be confusing.
Now I would like to extract temperature values from model output with python.
My model output have separate temperature, longitude and latitude variables.
So, I overlap these three grid variables on one figure to show temperature with
longitude and latitude
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com:
You still haven't answered my biggest objection from earlier. Source
code contains more information than the AST does; even if you make a
frAnkenSTein's monster that includes comments, there's still the point
that whitespace carries information, and that
Dear All,
I have a question about the integration with Python. The equation is as
below:
and I want to get values of I with respect of V. E_F is known. But for
T(E), I don't have explicit equation, but a .dat file containing
two columns, the first is E, and the second is T(E). It is also in the
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
If every bit of your Python text conveys information, obviously, it
can't be abstracted. I don't believe that to be the case, though. So
this AST should contain all *actual* information worth conveying and
strip away
Dear all,
I'm writing a python script for a web service. I have to connect to my
postgres/postgis databases via Psycopg2.
I writed a little first script just to connect to my pg/postgis db and drop
a test db.
But when i execute the python file, i have several error messages.
Please read
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com:
Compare these two assignment statements:
area = (base*base + extension*extension
+ annex*annex + (annex-extension)*annex
+ triangle*triangle/2
+ circle*circle*math.PI + sphere*sphere*4*math.PI)
area = (base*base + extension*extension +
On 05/16/2014 04:49 AM, Enlong Liu wrote:
Dear All,
I have a question about the integration with Python. The equation is as
below:
and I want to get values of I with respect of V. E_F is known. But for
T(E), I don't have explicit equation, but a .dat file containing
two columns, the first is E,
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:18 PM, dandrigo laurent.cel...@gmail.com wrote:
Please read the 2 usefull files below :
Dandrigo pg_test.py http://python.6.x6.nabble.com/file/n5057062/pg_test.py
SS_dos.JPG http://python.6.x6.nabble.com/file/n5057062/SS_dos.JPG
These would be MUCH better included
Terry Reedy tjreedy at udel.edu writes:
On 5/13/2014 8:53 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/13/2014 05:10 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 10:08:42 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
Because Python 3 presents stdin and stdout as text streams however, it
makes them more difficult to use
Sorry for this inconvenience. Since my file is a little large, I think it will
be more difficult for fellows to check. I will now paste the attachment below.
The file for T(E) consists of two columns, the first is E and the second is
T(E). What I want is to integrate this function in a certain
On 16/05/14 13:57, Enlong Liu wrote:
Sorry for this inconvenience. Since my file is a little large, I think it will
be more difficult for fellows to check. I will now paste the attachment below.
The file for T(E) consists of two columns, the first is E and the second is
T(E). What I want is
Le vendredi 16 mai 2014 13:50:47 UTC+2, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
Terry Reedy tjreedy at udel.edu writes:
On 5/13/2014 8:53 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/13/2014 05:10 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 10:08:42 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
Because Python 3
Hi, i tried what you suggest but still asking me for the password, this
time twice.
Please i need help so this is for my thesis.
VII Escuela Internacional de Verano en la UCI del 30 de junio al 11 de julio de
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On 2014-05-14, alister alister.nospam.w...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2014 10:08:57 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
With the current system, all of us here are technically violating
copyright
If you do not have a closed form for T(E) you cannot calculate the exact
value of I(V).
Anyway. Assuming T is integrable you can approximate I(V).
1. Way to do:
interpolate T(E) by a polynomial P and integrate P. For this you need
the equation (coefficients and exponents) of P. Integrating is
Hi Enlong
You may try standard numerical integration solutions based on the E and
T(E) columns data provided.
Ernest Bonat, Ph.D.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Enlong Liu liuenlon...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
I have a question about the integration with Python. The equation is as
On 5/16/2014 4:49 AM, Enlong Liu wrote:
Dear All,
I have a question about the integration with Python.
For numerical integration, you should look as numpy and scipy and
perhaps associated packages.
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On 16/05/14 16:01, Johannes Schneider wrote:
If you do not have a closed form for T(E) you cannot calculate the exact
value of I(V).
Anyway. Assuming T is integrable you can approximate I(V).
1. Way to do:
interpolate T(E) by a polynomial P and integrate P. For this you need
the equation
1. There are a lot of spinet codes in many languages for numerical
integration. I may find a good one in Python for you? try SciPy.org (
http://www.scipy.org/about.html) you may find something there.
2. Look at the wiki too: https://wiki.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientific.
I hope this help a
On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:46:23 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
At least in the US, there doesn't seem to be such a thing as placing a
work into the public domain. The copyright holder can transfer
ownershipt to soembody else, but there is no public domain to which
ownership can be trasferred.
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:46:23 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
At least in the US, there doesn't seem to be such a thing as placing
a work into the public domain. The copyright holder can transfer
ownershipt to soembody else, but there is no
I'm using Python in an embedded situation. In particular I have to load
python scripts through a memory interface so regular python module
loading can not be used. I got working so far a module loader object
I've added using C++ to sys.meta_path . Now I'm totally stuck at the
finally loading step.
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I would like to work on this issue, but I would need a little help to start
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Do you want to propose a patch?
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Tal Einat added the comment:
Regarding the handling of time_t arguments which can be None, I agree that the
second version (without custom convertors) is simpler and clearer while having
no disadvantage that I can see.
I'd like to review the rest of the patches, but you mention changes to the
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New submission from STINNER Victor:
Linux 3.11 introduced a new file flag O_TMPFILE. The flag is exposed in
Python, see the issue #18673.
O_TMPFILE is a new open(2)/openat(2) flag that makes easier the creation of
secure temporary files. Files opened with the O_TMPFILE flag are created but
Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
I don't think we can use this by default, or it will break the expected
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
I don't think we can use this by default, or it will break the expected
semantics of temporary files under Unix (visible by other processes).
I proposed to change TemporaryFile, not NamedTemporaryFile. Do you mean that
other processes are supposed to have
Steven D'Aprano added the comment:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 07:50:16AM +, Ezio Melotti wrote:
Do you want to propose a patch?
I'm really not sure that I agree with this request. I'm currently
sitting on the fence, undecided, about 60% against and 40% in favour of
explicitly documenting
Ezio Melotti added the comment:
From msg214692 it seems to me that Alex wants Python-friendly formulas or
examples, rather than mathematical formulas. Most functions seems to already
have them, so I was asking for a patch to get a better idea of which functions
he thinks should be improved
Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
I proposed to change TemporaryFile, not NamedTemporaryFile.
Ah, sorry. Then it sounds ok.
(I couldn't find any documentation for O_TMPFILE, though)
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
AFAIU, Lev merely posted this because he feared it might be indicative of a
bug. Since it isn't a bug but the by-product of a feature, I propose to close
this issue as not a bug.
Regardless, thank you for posting this report! We appreciate the concern.
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
Here is a patch which tests encoding name with cp65001 instead of CP_UTF8.
I can't test on Windows and don't know which of two patches are correct.
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Claudiu.Popa added the comment:
Attached the new version of the patch which removes the resource warnings.
Raymond, I disagree on certain points. `difflib -m` does help the development,
especially for platforms where there aren't many readily available alternatives
(like Windows). I gave an
Glenn Langford added the comment:
In abstract, I like the namedtuple interface for sqlite3 as well. One caution
is that the approach suggested at
http://peter-hoffmann.com/2010/python-sqlite-namedtuple-factory.html
can have a dramatic impact on performance. For one DB-intensive application,
Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 8ee2b73cda7a by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue #13916: Fix surrogatepass error handler on Windows
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8ee2b73cda7a
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
But an exception reports about CP_UTF8.
Oh, that's my fault! And it is a bug: CP_UTF8 is the Windows constant, but it
is not a valid Python codec name.
Attached patch cp_encoding_name.patch fixes this issue.
I don't think that Py_LOWER() is needed because
STINNER Victor added the comment:
It looks like O_TMPFILE is supported by tmpfs (3.11), ext3 (3.11), ext4 (3.11),
XFS (3.15). It looks like BTRFS will also support the O_TMPFILE:
https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Project_ideas#Implement_O_TMPFILE_support
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
It looks like open() ignores O_TMPFILE (0o2000) on old Linux kernels. Test
on Linux 3.2:
fd=os.open(/tmp, os.O_RDWR | O_TMPFILE, 0o600)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
OSError: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/tmp'
Berker Peksag added the comment:
Here's a patch to set the default convert_charrefs value to True (with
documentation and whatsnew updates).
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R. David Murray added the comment:
There is some support for this in the new email policies. Take a look at the
new examples in the 3.4 email documentation in particular.
The additional thing I would like to see is support in the content manager that
recognizes multipart/related and makes it
New submission from Thomas Heller:
On Windows, pathlib.Path(...).is_dir() crashes on readonly directories while
os.path.isdir(...) works fine. Example on Windows7:
Python 3.4.0 (v3.4.0:04f714765c13, Mar 16 2014, 19:24:06) [MSC v.1600 32 bit
(Intel)] on win32
Type help, copyright, credits or
Thomas Heller added the comment:
Well, not 'readonly' directories but directories where the user has no access
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Brett Cannon added the comment:
I see you noticed my shift in strategy after I realized part way through a
cleaner way of doing things. =)
LGTM
I don't love the formatting of the test_both() lines, but I think that one is
just an aesthetic thing that will never make people happy -- weird
Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
So we should catch OSError(21, Is a directory: '/tmp') and fallback
to the current implementation (random name, unlink), and remember that
the kernel version is too old.
Just catch any OSError?
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Glenn Langford added the comment:
...if I understand the proposed caching scheme, then repeated executions of the
query
SELECT a,b,c FROM table
would result in cache hits, since the column names remain the same. I'm
guessing this would resolve the performance problem in the app I saw, but it
Eric Snow added the comment:
I don't love the formatting of the test_both() lines, but I think that one is
just an aesthetic thing that will never make people happy -- weird line
wrapping or really long lines -- so just leave it as-is in your patch.
Yeah, I went with the formatting that I
STINNER Victor added the comment:
Just catch any OSError?
If possible, I would prefer to not retry O_TMPFILE each time if the kernel
version does not support the flag.
Pseudo-code:
--
if o_tmpfile_supported:
try:
fd = os.open(dir, os.O_TMPFILE | ...)
except IsADirectoryError:
Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
Just catch any OSError?
If possible, I would prefer to not retry O_TMPFILE each time if the kernel
version does not support the flag.
How likely it is to have a glibc flag that's not supported by the kernel
(on a normal setup, not a self-compiled
Eric Snow added the comment:
FWIW, this change was motivated by the importlib backport (I found some time to
work on it). The import_importlib()/test_both() approach definitely makes
backporting the tests easier (thanks for that).
BTW, thanks for also consolidating the various test_importlib
Berker Peksag added the comment:
A patch to detect bad type for classifiers in the check command would
also be acceptable for 3.5, or to catch it earlier, a check in the
Distribution class.
Thanks for the idea, Éric. New patch attached.
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Matthew Barnett added the comment:
I wouldn't call it a crash. It's an exception.
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akira added the comment:
subprocess.check_output() could be used in communicate() + check process
exit status one-liners. It returns child process output (stdout)
and raises an exception if the returncode is not zero. It is available
since Python 2.7 (3.1)
If you don't want to raise an error
Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 34d65746d5ca by Eric Snow in branch 'default':
Issue #21503: Use test_both() consistently in test_importlib.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/34d65746d5ca
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Moving discussion to python-ideas was the right thing to do. I am closing this
for the present as there is no concrete accepted idea to write a patch for.
Thomas, if that changes, you can re-open.
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Senthil, David, I hope one of you understands this. I looks like a minor fix.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
We should resolve issue 18022 before we decide how to fix this.
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Paul Sokolovsky added the comment:
This is minor issue indeed, uncovered when trying to run quopri.py with
MicroPython http://micropython.org . I now worked around this on MicroPython
side, but otherwise I set to report any issues I've seen with MicroPython
porting, in the hope that
R. David Murray added the comment:
Thanks. It's very clear. What isn't clear is if the line should be made to
work as apparently intended, or removed :) (My guess at this point without
re-reading the RFCs is that it should be removed.)
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eryksun added the comment:
nt._isdir calls GetFileAttributes. CPython's stat implementation calls
CreateFile to get a handle to pass to GetFileInformationByHandle. If it can't
get a valid handle, it falls back to calling FindFirstFileW to get the file
information, but only for
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Berker: do you consider your diff ready to go in, or is it an early diff
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eryksun added the comment:
but only for ERROR_SHARING_VIOLATION. Shouldn't this
include ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED?
To clarify, I meant that I think it should fall back to using FindFirstFile for
either error, not that ERROR_SHARING_VIOLATION somehow includes
ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED. (Proofreading?
Senthil Kumaran added the comment:
I am glad that issues with 3rdparty libs which dependent on the previous wrong
behavior has been resolved.
As indicated previously, I think, it makes sense to have this in 2.7 as well. I
created a patch and tested it 2.7 and it is all good. I plan to commit
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Apparently os.path.isdir() has been special-cased under Windows to use other,
native APIs (see #11583).
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Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 568041fd8090 by Senthil Kumaran in branch '2.7':
Backport Fix for Issue #7776: Fix ``Host:'' header and reconnection when using
http.client.HTTPConnection.set_tunnel().
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This is fixed in 2.7 as well here (changeset 568041fd8090).
We shall close this ticket after @dstufft pulls in the updated pip for 3.4
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Nick Coghlan added the comment:
Reasonably common, I believe. For example, Red Hat ships a Developer
Toolset, so you may be building with an up to date gcc on RHEL 6 or 7, but
still support deploying against the older kernel in RHEL 5.
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Donald Stufft added the comment:
Requests has been released and I've pulled it into the pip tree. I'll be
releasing tonight probably, or maybe tomorrow.
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Larry Hastings added the comment:
I tag 3.4.1 final in less than 24 hours. I really would prefer that the
embedded pip not contain such, uh, fresh software. But let's try it and hope
for the best.
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Donald Stufft added the comment:
Well you're the RM Larry :) I'll do whatever you think is best. I would greatly
prefer it if the pip shipped with CPython 3.4.1 wasn't broken with proxies. I
think the choices are
1) Ship it with the new pip, I can give a delta of the differences if that is
Larry Hastings added the comment:
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Donald Stufft added the comment:
I just released pip 1.5.6.
The ensurepip package currently has 1.5.4 inside of it. 1.5.5 has been out for
2 weeks or so and there haven't been any reported regressions.
The only difference between 1.5.5 and 1.5.6 is that requests has been upgraded.
Here's the
Donald Stufft added the comment:
Just FYI, I upgraded setuptools and pip in 3.5:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/acb5cc616052
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/308ff6a5ce67
If you decide to go that way dunno if you can just cherry pick or not.
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I installed Python 3.4 on my Mac (OSX 10.9.2), with the option to make python
3.4 my default python3, so
which python3
prints
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/bin/python3
which is fine. A terminal then brings up python 3.4, fine.
Senthil Kumaran added the comment:
I prefer we update the ensurepip in 3.4.1
That will be helpful too since 3.5 has the fix.
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