Re: How/where to store calibration values - written by program A, read by program B

2023-12-06 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/6/2023 6:35 AM, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote: On 6 Dec 2023, at 09:32, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: My requirement is *slightly* more complex than just key value pairs, it has one level of hierarchy, e.g.:- KEY1: a: v1 c: v3 d: v4 KEY2: a

Re: How/where to store calibration values - written by program A, read by program B

2023-12-06 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/6/2023 1:12 PM, MRAB via Python-list wrote: On 2023-12-06 12:23, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 12/6/2023 6:35 AM, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote: On 6 Dec 2023, at 09:32, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: My requirement is *slightly* more complex than just key value

Python 3.12.1 is now available

2023-12-07 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
Python 3.12.1 is now available. https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3121/ This is the first maintenance release of Python 3.12 Python 3.12 is the newest major release of the Python programming language, and it contains many new features and optimizations. 3.12.1 is the latest maintena

A problem with str VS int.

2023-12-09 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
If I enter a one-digit input or a three-digit number, the code works but if I enter a two digit number, the if statement fails and the else condition prevails. tsReading = input(" Enter the " + Brand + " test strip reading: ") if tsReading == "": tsReading = "0" print(t

RE: A problem with str VS int.

2023-12-09 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
user can enter any text, they might enter ".01" or "hello" or al kinds of nonsense. If you converted to numbers and tested whether it failed, ... -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Steve GS via Python-list Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 9:42 PM To: pyth

Re: A problem with str VS int.

2023-12-09 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/9/2023 9:42 PM, Steve GS via Python-list wrote: If I enter a one-digit input or a three-digit number, the code works but if I enter a two digit number, the if statement fails and the else condition prevails. tsReading = input(" Enter the " + Brand + " tes

How to enter multiple, similar, dictionaries?

2023-12-11 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Is there a way to abbreviate the following code somehow? lv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'1', 'name':'Leisure volts'} sv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'0', 'name':'Starter volts'} la = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'2', 'name':'Leisure Amps'} sa = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'3', 'name':'Starter Amps'}

Re: How to enter multiple, similar, dictionaries?

2023-12-11 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Chris Green wrote: > Is there a way to abbreviate the following code somehow? > > lv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'1', 'name':'Leisure volts'} > sv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'0', 'name':'Starter volts'} > la = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'2', 'name':'Leisure Amps'} > sa = {'dev':'bbb', 'input'

Re: How to enter multiple, similar, dictionaries?

2023-12-11 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2023-12-11, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: > Is there a way to abbreviate the following code somehow? > > lv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'1', 'name':'Leisure volts'} > sv = {'dev':'bbb', &#x

Re: How to enter multiple, similar, dictionaries?

2023-12-11 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-12-11, Chris Green wrote: > Chris Green wrote: >> Is there a way to abbreviate the following code somehow? >> >> lv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'1', 'name':'Leisure volts'} >> sv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'0', 'name':'Starter volts'} >> la = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'2', 'name':'Leisu

Re: How to enter multiple, similar, dictionaries?

2023-12-11 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Jon Ribbens wrote: > On 2023-12-11, Chris Green wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > >> Is there a way to abbreviate the following code somehow? > >> > >> lv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'1', 'name':'Leisure volts'} > >> sv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'0', 'name':'Starter volts'} > >> la = {'dev'

Re: How to enter multiple, similar, dictionaries?

2023-12-11 Thread Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
On 11/12/2023 16.16, Chris Green wrote: Is there a way to abbreviate the following code somehow? lv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'1', 'name':'Leisure volts'} sv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'0', 'name':'Starter volts'} la = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'2', 'name':'Leisure Amps'} sa = {'dev':

RE: A problem with str VS int.

2023-12-12 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
now more of a curiosity as I did use the integer comparisons. SGA -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of dn via Python-list Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: A problem with str VS int. On 10/12/23 15:42, Steve GS via Python-list

IDLE editor suggestion.

2023-12-12 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
Maybe this already exists but I have never seen it in any editor that I have used. It would be nice to have a pull-down text box that lists all of the searches I have used during this session. It would make editing a lot easier if I could select the previous searches rather than having to enter it

Re: A problem with str VS int.

2023-12-12 Thread Roel Schroeven via Python-list
Op 12/12/2023 om 9:22 schreef Steve GS via Python-list: With all these suggestions on how to fix it, no one seems to answer why it fails only when entering a two-digit number. One and three work fine when comparing with str values. It is interesting that the leading 0 on a two digit worked

RE: A problem with str VS int.

2023-12-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
aracter strings to mean anything unless programmed to examine them a certain way. And often, the same people cannot sole a simple puzzle like "SEND" + "MORE" == "MONEY" -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Roel Schroeven via Python-list Sent: Tuesda

Re: IDLE editor suggestion.

2023-12-12 Thread Friedrich Romstedt via Python-list
Hi! Am Di., 12. Dez. 2023 um 09:28 Uhr schrieb Steve GS via Python-list : > > Maybe this already exists but > I have never seen it in any > editor that I have used. You might want to choose Microsoft Code from its Visual Studio family of software, or, if you're ready for a dee

Re: IDLE editor suggestion.

2023-12-12 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 2023-12-12 08:22, Steve GS via Python-list wrote: > Maybe this already exists but > I have never seen it in any > editor that I have used. > > It would be nice to have a > pull-down text box that lists > all of the searches I have > used during this session. It &g

Re: IDLE editor suggestion.

2023-12-12 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 12/12/23 13:50, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 2023-12-12 08:22, Steve GS via Python-list wrote: > Maybe this already exists but > I have never seen it in any > editor that I have used. > > It would be nice to have a > pull-down text box that lists > all o

RE: IDLE editor suggestion.

2023-12-12 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
Subject: Re: IDLE editor suggestion. Hi! Am Di., 12. Dez. 2023 um 09:28 Uhr schrieb Steve GS via Python-list : > > Maybe this already exists but > I have never seen it in any > editor that I have used. You might want to choose Microsoft Code from its Visual Studio family of soft

Type hints - am I doing it right?

2023-12-12 Thread Frank Millman via Python-list
Hi all I am adding type hints to my code base. I support three databases - sqlite3, Sql Server, PostgreSQL. The db parameters are kept in an ini file, under the section name 'DbParams'. This is read on program start, using configparser, and passed to a function config_database() in another mo

Re: Type hints - am I doing it right?

2023-12-13 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 13Dec2023 09:19, Frank Millman wrote: I am adding type hints to my code base. [...] In the other module I have this - def config_database(db_params): To add a type hint, I now have this - def config_database(db_params: configparser.SectionProxy): To get this to work, I have to

Announcement: distlib 0.3.8 released on PyPI

2023-12-13 Thread Vinay Sajip via Python-list
Version 0.3.8 of distlib has recently been released on PyPI [1]. For newcomers, distlib is a library of packaging functionality which is intended to be usable as the basis for third-party packaging tools. The main changes in this release are as follows: * Fix #204: use symlinks in venv creation

ANN: A new version (0.5.2) of python-gnupg has been released.

2023-12-13 Thread Vinay Sajip via Python-list
What Changed?= This is an enhancement and bug-fix release, and all users are encouraged to upgrade. Brief summary: * Fix #228: Clarify documentation for encryption/decryption. * Make I/O buffer size configurable via buffer_size attribute on a GPG instance. This release [2] has been

Re: Type hints - am I doing it right?

2023-12-13 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 12/13/23 00:19, Frank Millman via Python-list wrote: I have to add 'import configparser' at the top of each of these modules in order to type hint the method. This seems verbose. If it is the correct way of doing it I can live with it, but I wondered if there was an easier way.

TLS support for SysLogHandler (currently in pypi)

2023-12-13 Thread A Tammy via Python-list
Hi all, I've been trying to add TLS over TCP support to the core SysLogHandler and currently have a working example package on PyPI - https://pypi.org/project/tlssysloghandler/#usage . The package works as a drop-in replacement for SysLogHandler, trying to support the original options and extends

Request to Review: Tutorial about Python Packaging offering different use case

2023-12-13 Thread Christian Buhtz via Python-list
Hello, I would like to point to my Python Packaging Tutorial explaining several common use cases using minimal demo projects. I am not an expert and assume that some of my solutions might not be the best. So I would appreciate if you ca

Re: Type hints - am I doing it right?

2023-12-13 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/13/2023 11:17 AM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: On 12/13/23 00:19, Frank Millman via Python-list wrote: I have to add 'import configparser' at the top of each of these modules in order to type hint the method. This seems verbose. If it is the correct way of doing it

Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
Hello, I always install Python on Windows in the same manner: - Python is not on the path, - it is installed for all users, - the Python Launcher is installed for all users, - the file types .py, .pyw etc. are associated with Python. My shebang line is usually "#!/usr/bin/env python3". This ha

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
Am 22.12.2023 um 14:13 schrieb Barry: On 22 Dec 2023, at 12:39, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Hello, I always install Python on Windows in the same manner: - Python is not on the path, - it is installed for all users, - the Python Launcher is installed for all users, - the file

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread J.O. Aho via Python-list
On 22/12/2023 13.36, Sibylle Koczian wrote: Hello, I always install Python on Windows in the same manner: - Python is not on the path, - it is installed for all users, - the Python Launcher is installed for all users, - the file types .py, .pyw etc. are associated with Python. My shebang line

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Christian Buhtz via Python-list
What is the "command line" on your Windows 11? On Windows 10 it usually is "cmd.exe" (Windows Command Prompt). On Windows 11 it usually is the "Terminal" which is different from cmd.exe. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

making your own DirEntry.

2023-12-22 Thread Antoon Pardon via Python-list
I am writing a program that goes through file hierarchies and I am mostly using scandir for that which produces DirEntry instances. At times it would be usefull if I could make my own DirEntry for a specific path, however when I try, I get the following diagnostic: os.DirEntry('snap') Tracebac

Re: making your own DirEntry.

2023-12-22 Thread DL Neil via Python-list
Antoon, On 12/23/23 01:00, Antoon Pardon via Python-list wrote: I am writing a program that goes through file hierarchies and I am mostly using scandir for that which produces DirEntry instances. At times it would be usefull if I could make my own DirEntry for a specific path, however when I

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/22/2023 7:36 AM, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Hello, I always install Python on Windows in the same manner: - Python is not on the path, - it is installed for all users, - the Python Launcher is installed for all users, - the file types .py, .pyw etc. are associated with Python

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/22/2023 9:29 AM, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Am 22.12.2023 um 14:13 schrieb Barry: On 22 Dec 2023, at 12:39, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Hello, I always install Python on Windows in the same manner: - Python is not on the path, - it is installed for all

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/22/23 11:42, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > There is some important context that is missing here. Python on Windows > does not normally install to that location. That is not even a Windows > path, neither by directory name nor by path separators. No, that's just

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/22/23 07:02, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > On my Windows 10 machine, Python scripts run without a shebang line. > Perhaps Windows 11 has added the ability to use one, but then you would > need to use the actual location of your Python executable. Yes if you associate .p

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/22/2023 7:19 PM, Barry wrote: On 23 Dec 2023, at 00:15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: In neither case is the shebang line used. As i understand it, not in front of my windows box to check. The handler for .py file extension is set to be the py.exe It is py.exe that

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-22 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/22/2023 7:27 PM, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: On 12/22/23 07:02, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On my Windows 10 machine, Python scripts run without a shebang line. Perhaps Windows 11 has added the ability to use one, but then you would need to use the actual location of

Re: making your own DirEntry.

2023-12-23 Thread Antoon Pardon via Python-list
Op 22/12/2023 om 21:39 schreef DL Neil via Python-list: Antoon, On 12/23/23 01:00, Antoon Pardon via Python-list wrote: I am writing a program that goes through file hierarchies and I am mostly using scandir for that which produces DirEntry instances. At times it would be usefull if I could

Re: making your own DirEntry.

2023-12-23 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 23 Dec 2023, at 09:48, Antoon Pardon via Python-list > wrote: > > Because I have functions with DirEntry parameters. I would duck-type a class I control to be my DirEnrry in this situation. Would also help you when debugging as you can tell injected DirEntry from &qu

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-23 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 23 Dec 2023, at 03:01, Thomas Passin via Python-list > wrote: > > Not on my system. It may depend on whether Python gets installed to Program > Files or to %USERPROFILE%/AppData/Local/Programs/Python. Python 3.9 is the > last verson I installed to Program Fil

Re: making your own DirEntry.

2023-12-23 Thread Antoon Pardon via Python-list
Op 23/12/2023 om 12:34 schreef Barry Scott: On 23 Dec 2023, at 09:48, Antoon Pardon via Python-list wrote: Because I have functions with DirEntry parameters. I would duck-type a class I control to be my DirEnrry in this situation. Would also help you when debugging as you can tell

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-23 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/22/23 20:56, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > It's just better not to make assumptions about which version of Python > will be running. Just specify it yourself when you can, and then you can > be sure. Precisely, which is why the shebang is so useful, even on W

What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-23 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Hello list. I'm trying to understand the contents of Wheel files. I was reading https://peps.python.org/pep-0491/ specifically the paragraph that states: Install-Paths-To is a location relative to the archive that will be overwritten with the install-time paths of each category in the install sch

ANN: DIPY 1.8.0

2023-12-23 Thread Eleftherios Garyfallidis via Python-list
Hello all, We are excited to announce a new release of DIPY: DIPY 1.8.0 ! This release includes many new features and updates to support the latest Python, Numpy, Scipy and Cython versions. The Pythonic ecosystem is growing fast. Which is great. But please report any issues you may find. DIPY 1.8

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-23 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Sorry, I found that this... documentation continues, but it doesn't make anything better. Here's what this PEP has to add (text in square brackets are my questions): If a package needs to find its files at runtime, it can request they be written to a specified file or files [does this mean a singl

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-23 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/22/23 20:16, rbowman via Python-list wrote: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:27:58 -0700, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> Using the py launcher as your Windows association with .py and.pyw files >> you can have multiple versions of python installed and everything works >> as it s

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-24 Thread Mike Dewhirst via Python-list
4 December 2023 3:35:42 am AEDT, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: >On 12/22/23 20:56, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: >> It's just better not to make assumptions about which version of Python >> will be running. Just specify it yourself when you can, and then you c

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-24 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 15:42, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote: > > Apologies for top posting - my phone seems unable to do otherwise. > > Here's my view - which may not be popular. You're right about that part, anyhow :) > 4. Shebang lines are pretty much redun

Re: >>> %matplotlib inline results in SyntaxError: invalid syntax

2023-12-25 Thread geetanajali homes via Python-list
On Friday 29 January 2016 at 12:34:47 UTC+5:30, Mike S wrote: > I have installed Python 3.4.4 on XPSP3 and am trying to work my way > through this tutorial. > > A Complete Tutorial on Ridge and Lasso Regression in Python > http://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2016/01/complete-tutorial-ridge-lass

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-25 Thread Mike Dewhirst via Python-list
Well spotted Chris. 4 was a generalisation based on my own circumstances.However, I'm not wrong about Microsoft motivationsM--(Unsigned mail from my phone) Original message From: Chris Angelico via Python-list Date: 25/12/23 15:57 (GMT+10:00) To: Michael Torrie via P

Re: >>> %matplotlib inline results in SyntaxError: invalid syntax

2023-12-25 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 25/12/2023 05:34, geetanajali homes via Python-list wrote: >> import numpy as np >> import pandas as pd >> import random >> import matplotlib.pyplot as plt >> %matplotlib inline >> >> I get an error on the last line. I am running this code in Idl

Re: >>> %matplotlib inline results in SyntaxError: invalid syntax

2023-12-25 Thread Chris Grace via Python-list
essarily mean that you'll experienced issues using python 3.4, but much has changed in the 7 years since that article was written. On Mon, Dec 25, 2023, 2:53 PM Alan Gauld via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > On 25/12/2023 05:34, geetanajali homes via Python-list wrote

Re: >>> %matplotlib inline results in SyntaxError: invalid syntax

2023-12-25 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 07:27, Chris Grace via Python-list wrote: > I'd also recommend a newer version of python. Python 3.4 reached end of > life almost 5 years ago. Uhh, putting this in perspective... until a spammer revived the thread just now, it was asked, answered, and finishe

How/where to store calibration values - written by program A, read by program B

2023-12-27 Thread Greg Walters via Python-list
Many years ago, Fredrik Lundh provided an answer for this question on his website effbot.org. Unfortunately that site has gone, but luckily, it has been preserved in the "wayback machine"... https://web.archive.org/web/20200724053442/http://effbot.org:80/pyfaq/how-do-i-share-global-variables-acro

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-27 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Thanks. I tried asking there. On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 11:53 PM Barry wrote: > > > > On 24 Dec 2023, at 00:58, Left Right via Python-list > wrote: > > I'm trying to understand the contents of Wheel files > > > There are lots of packaging experts that hang o

Re: How/where to store calibration values - written by program A, read by program B

2023-12-28 Thread Richard Damon via Python-list
On 12/28/2023 12:20 AM EST rbowman via Python-list <[1][email protected]> wrote: On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 03:53:42 -0600, Greg Walters wrote: The biggest caveat is that the shared variable MUST exist before it can be examined or used (not surp

Re: How/where to store calibration values - written by program A, read by program B

2023-12-28 Thread Greg Walters via Python-list
First, one of the posters got it right. Nothing is REALLY ever "written" to the file. Consider it a global variable that isn't a global variable. Assume you have two modules, A and B. Both modules import config. Furthermore, let's assume that Module B 'writes' a variable called "font"... share

Are there any easy-to-use Visual Studio C# WinForms-like GUI designers in the Python world for Tk?

2023-12-28 Thread Félix An via Python-list
I'm used to C# WinForms, which has an easy-to-use drag-and-drop GUI designer in Visual Studio. Is there anything similar for Tk? How about Qt? What do you recommend as the easiest way to create GUI programs in Python, similar to the ease of use of C# WinForms? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-28 Thread Félix An via Python-list
On 2023-12-25 12:36, Mike Dewhirst wrote: 3. You cannot trust Microsoft. You can trust Python Software Foundation. Python from PSF works the same in all environments - or if not it is a bug. Python from Microsoft is tweaked to satisfy their aforementioned strategy of locking in users to Windo

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-28 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 at 12:23, Félix An via Python-list wrote: > > On 2023-12-25 12:36, Mike Dewhirst wrote: > > > > 3. You cannot trust Microsoft. You can trust Python Software Foundation. > > Python from PSF works the same in all environments - or if not it is a bug. &

mypy question

2023-12-29 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Hi all, I am not sure why mypy thinks this gmPG2.py:554: error: Argument "queries" to "run_rw_queries" has incompatible type "List[Dict[str, str]]"; expected "List[Dict[str, Union[str, List[Any], Dict[str, Any" [arg-type] rows, idx = run_rw_queries(link_obj = conn, queri

Re: mypy question

2023-12-29 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 01:15:29PM +0100 schrieb Karsten Hilbert via Python-list: > I am not sure why mypy thinks this > > gmPG2.py:554: error: Argument "queries" to "run_rw_queries" has incompatible > type "List[Dict[str, str]]"; expected > "

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
; > Thanks. I tried asking there. > > On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 11:53 PM Barry wrote: > > > > > > > > On 24 Dec 2023, at 00:58, Left Right via Python-list > > wrote: > > > > I'm trying to understand the contents of Wheel files > &

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 at 13:04, Left Right via Python-list wrote: > > Wow. That place turned out to be the toxic pit I didn't expect. > > It's a shame that a public discussion of public goods was entrusted to > a bunch of gatekeepers with no sense of responsibility for

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
That's not the discussion that was toxic. But the one that was -- doesn't exist anymore since the forum owners deleted it. The part where the forum owners delete whatever they disagree with is the toxic part. On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 2:57 PM Oscar Benjamin via Python-list wrote: >

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 01:16, Left Right via Python-list wrote: > > That's not the discussion that was toxic. But the one that was -- > doesn't exist anymore since the forum owners deleted it. > > The part where the forum owners delete whatever they disagree with i

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
> Yeah, because you have the God-given RIGHT to be able to say anything > you like, on anyone's web site, and nobody's allowed to delete > anything you say! That's how it goes, right? I don't believe in god, and I don't believe he / she can give me rights. What I believe in is that Python is a pu

Re: mypy question

2023-12-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 12/29/23 05:15, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: Hi all, I am not sure why mypy thinks this gmPG2.py:554: error: Argument "queries" to "run_rw_queries" has incompatible type "List[Dict[str, str]]"; expected "List[Dict[str, Union[str, List[

Re: mypy question

2023-12-29 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 07:49:17AM -0700 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: > >I am not sure why mypy thinks this > > > >gmPG2.py:554: error: Argument "queries" to "run_rw_queries" has incompatible > >type "List[Dict[str, str]]"; expe

Re: How/where to store calibration values - written by program A, read by program B

2023-12-29 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2023-12-28, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: > On 2023-12-28 05:20:07 +, rbowman via Python-list wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 03:53:42 -0600, Greg Walters wrote: >> > The biggest caveat is that the shared variable MUST exist before it can >> > be exami

RE: Subject: Are there any easy-to-use Visual Studio C# WinForms-like GUI designers in the Python world for Tk?

2023-12-29 Thread Greg Walters via Python-list
> I'm used to C# WinForms, which has an easy-to-use drag-and-drop GUI designer in Visual Studio. Is there anything similar for Tk? How about Qt? What do you recommend as the easiest way to create GUI programs in Python, similar to the ease of use of C# WinForms? I can't say much for Qt other than

Re: Are there any easy-to-use Visual Studio C# WinForms-like GUI designers in the Python world for Tk?

2023-12-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 12/28/23 18:05, Félix An via Python-list wrote: I'm used to C# WinForms, which has an easy-to-use drag-and-drop GUI designer in Visual Studio. Is there anything similar for Tk? How about Qt? What do you recommend as the easiest way to create GUI programs in Python, similar to the ea

Re: mypy question

2023-12-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 12/29/23 08:02, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: Dict[str, str] means the key type and value type should both be strings, Indeed, I know that much, list[dict[str, str]] is what is getting passed in in this particular invocation of run_rw_queries(). For what it's worth here&

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 01:37, Left Right wrote: > > > Yeah, because you have the God-given RIGHT to be able to say anything > > you like, on anyone's web site, and nobody's allowed to delete > > anything you say! That's how it goes, right? > > I don't believe in god, and I don't believe he / she c

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Previously you wrote: > Here is the discussion referred to: https://discuss.python.org/t/what-is-install-paths-to-in-wheel-file/42005 This illustrates you had no idea what the discussion was about and now you write: > Oh trust me, I saw the discussion previously. Both cannot be true at the same

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 06:58, Left Right wrote: > My understanding is that "welcome and encourage participation by > everyone" is in stark contradiction to banning someone disagreeing > with you. Then your understanding is flat-out wrong. Encouraging participation by everyone DOES mean deleting w

Re: mypy question

2023-12-29 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 11:04:59AM -0700 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: > >For what it's worth here's the signature of that function: > > > > def run_rw_queries ( > > link_obj:_TLnkObj=None, > > queries:list[dict

Re: Are there any easy-to-use Visual Studio C# WinForms-like GUI designers in the Python world for Tk?

2023-12-29 Thread Jach Feng via Python-list
Félix An 在 2023年12月29日 星期五下午2:05:24 [UTC+13] 的信中寫道: > I'm used to C# WinForms, which has an easy-to-use drag-and-drop GUI > designer in Visual Studio. Is there anything similar for Tk? How about > Qt? What do you recommend as the easiest way to create GUI programs in > Python, similar to the eas

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
> Then your understanding is flat-out wrong. Encouraging participation > by everyone DOES mean deleting what is unproductive, offensive, and > likely to discourage participation. I haven't written anything unproductive or offensive. I offered constructive criticism with a detailed plan on how to f

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 at 22:38, Left Right via Python-list wrote: > > > Then your understanding is flat-out wrong. Encouraging participation > > by everyone DOES mean deleting what is unproductive, offensive, and > > likely to discourage participation. > > I haven't

Re: mypy question

2023-12-29 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
On 30/12/23 4:02 am, Karsten Hilbert wrote: def run_rw_queries ( link_obj:_TLnkObj=None, queries:list[dict[str, str | list | dict[str, Any]]]=None, Given that I would have thought that passing in list[dict[str, str]] for "queries" ought to be type safe.

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-29 Thread Mike Dewhirst via Python-list
On 29/12/2023 12:09 pm, Félix An via Python-list wrote: On 2023-12-25 12:36, Mike Dewhirst wrote: 3. You cannot trust Microsoft. You can trust Python Software Foundation. Python from PSF works the same in all environments - or if not it is a bug. Python from Microsoft is tweaked to satisfy

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 14:06, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote: > > On 29/12/2023 12:09 pm, Félix An via Python-list wrote: > > On 2023-12-25 12:36, Mike Dewhirst wrote: > >> > >> 3. You cannot trust Microsoft. You can trust Python Software > >> Founda

Aw: Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Hi Greg, > dict[str, str] is not a subtype of dict[str, str | something_else] > because you can assign a value of type something_else to the latter > but not the former. I understand what you are saying but I do not yet understand why this applies to my situation. I don't have Python at hand cur

Re: How/where to store calibration values - written by program A, read by program B

2023-12-30 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Peter J. Holzer wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: us-ascii, 40 lines --] > > On 2023-12-29 09:01:24 -0800, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: > > On 2023-12-28, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list > > wrote: > > > On 2023-12-28 05:20:07

Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/29/2023 10:02 AM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: I agree that mypy's grasp of my intent from queries:list[dict[str, str | list | dict[str, Any]]]=None, into "List[Dict[str, Union[str, List[Any], Dict[str, Any" seems accurate. I just don't

Re: Are there any easy-to-use Visual Studio C# WinForms-like GUI designers in the Python world for Tk?

2023-12-30 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 29/12/2023 01:05, Félix An via Python-list wrote: > I'm used to C# WinForms, which has an easy-to-use drag-and-drop GUI > designer in Visual Studio. Is there anything similar for Tk? How about > Qt? There are any number of them but few that work well. The best I found was Da

Aw: Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Dear Thomas, thanks for taking the time to look into my issue. Maybe it helps if I explain what I want (sorry that my web mailer does not respect indentation, I will insert dots). I want a function to run SQL queries: run_queries(conn, queries): ...for q in queries: ..conn.execute(q) I no

Re: Aw: Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/30/2023 10:08 AM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: Dear Thomas, thanks for taking the time to look into my issue. Maybe it helps if I explain what I want (sorry that my web mailer does not respect indentation, I will insert dots). I want a function to run SQL queries

Re: Aw: Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/30/2023 10:08 AM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: Dear Thomas, thanks for taking the time to look into my issue. Maybe it helps if I explain what I want (sorry that my web mailer does not respect indentation, I will insert dots). I want a function to run SQL queries

Aw: Re: Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
> It occurs to me that you could simplify things if you converted those > plain query strings to dicts: > > 'SELECT 1' --> {'SQL': 'SELECT 1'} Ha, indeed. There's likely not that many "simple string SQL queries" in that codebase so I shall take it as an opportunity to refactor them. So, at least

Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/29/2023 10:02 AM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: Am Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 07:49:17AM -0700 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: I am not sure why mypy thinks this gmPG2.py:554: error: Argument "queries" to "run_rw_queries" has incompatible type "List[D

Aw: Re: Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
> I'm fairly sure your database queries don't actually give you strings or > dicts, right? You probably get lists (or iterators) of tuples and > somewhere you convert them to the arguments you are feeding to > run_queries(). Ah, no, those queries are enshrined within the middleware as Python stri

Re: Aw: Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 at 03:38, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > I am not very expert in Python type hints. In working up the example > program I just posted, I got an error message from mypy that remarked > that "list" is invariant, and to try Sequence which is "cov

Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 12/30/2023 9:14 AM, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 12/29/2023 10:02 AM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: I agree that mypy's grasp of my intent from queries:list[dict[str, str | list | dict[str, Any]]]=None, into "List[Dict[str, Union[str, List[Any], Dic

Re: Aw: Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
On 31/12/23 8:05 am, Chris Angelico wrote: Ah, I think you've hit on the problem there. Consider this: def add_item(stuff: dict[str: str | int]): stuff["spam"] = "ham" stuff["vooom"] = 1_000_000 Yep, that's it exactly. It's not the union itself that's the problem, but the fact that t

Re: mypy question

2023-12-30 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
On 31/12/23 10:06 am, Thomas Passin wrote: my suggestion above does work, *except* that you cannot mix-and-match different DictTypex types Have you tried declaring the argument as a Mapping instead of a dict? Seeing as Thomas Passin's Sequence experiment worked, it seems like this should work t

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