Re: Is Python installer/un-installer buggy on Windows?
Yeah, the problem seems to be with registry as every solution seems to be fiddling with registry. I know that reinstalling OS is a really bad idea. But I have tried to find a way to solve this for months now. I have started a bounty on superuser also for the same in the question Python IDLE disappeared from the right click context menu. And asking on these groups was the last thing I can think of. I uninstalled via the Control Panel. I installed via the official Python installer for Windows. I also don't understand how a start menu entry can begin an installation but it is doing just that. Now there seems to be 4 IDLE entries in my start menu. Two are valid (2.7.8, 3.4.2). The other two are previous installations of Python 3.4 that I did at different locations but removed later. I have stopped running IDLE from the start menu due to this. Because I am never sure whether it will re-install Python 3.4 at those old locations or not. Even right clicking those entries in start menu causes the installations to start. So I cannot even find the physical path of those entries. Maybe too much fiddling with the registry has caused it. Not sure about that. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Is Python installer/un-installer buggy on Windows?
I am using 32-bit Python on a 64-bit Windows. Edit with IDLE is missing from the context menu. I am working on Windows 7. I have searched on google a lot and have tried everything said in superuser, stackoverflow etc. I have even tried re-installing Python. I am now only left with re-installing Windows itself which I don't think is a good idea. Shouldn't the Python installer be able to fix this thing? I have both Python 2.7 and 3.4 installed but I uninstalled both and tried installing one. No use. Is there some problem with Python (un-)installer on Windows? I am asking because I have multiple IDLE in my Start menu one of which starts to install Python 3.3 in the default location (which I had earlier). -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Regarding Python official website
The Job board. It has been on hold for quite some time. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Regarding Python official website
The Python website is undergoing an overhaul for better looks. Is there anything like a forum where it is being discussed. I mean where the schedule for this is being maintained or the same is being discussed? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Benefits of asyncio
I read in these groups that asyncio is a great addition to Python 3. I have looked around and saw the related PEP which is quite big BTW but couldn't find a simple explanation for why this is such a great addition. Any simple example where it can be used? It can be used to have a queue of tasks? Like threads? Maybe light weight threads? Those were my thoughts but the library reference clearly stated that this is single-threaded. So there should be some waiting time in between the tasks. Then what is good? These are just jumbled thoughts that came into my mind while trying to make sense of usefulness of asyncio. Anyone can give a better idea? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Benefits of asyncio
I haven't worked with asynchronous tasks or concurrent programming so far. Used VB2010 and have used some jQuery in a recent project but nothing low level. As per the explanation it seems that programming using asyncio would require identifying blocks of code which are not dependent on the IO. Wouldn't that get confusing? @Terry When I said that there would be waiting time I meant as compared to sequential programming. I was not comparing to threads. From all the explanations what I got is that it is the way of doing event driven programming like threads are for concurrent programming. It would have been great if the library reference had mentioned the term event-driven programming. It would have been a great starting point to understand. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Advice for choosing correct architecture/tech for a hobby project
The project is not a browser but a app for managing the bookmarks. Only
managing by categories. A replacement for the bookmarks made in webbrowser. I
wanted to make bookmarks easier to use. Hierarchical structure of bookmarks
gives a lot of problems. I wanted to solve that for my use.
On Friday, May 23, 2014 1:19:22 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 5/22/14 1:54 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
I am working on a hobby project - a Bookmarker{snip}
hi, no django is not really the correct tool-set. Django is for
server-side content management, but who knows, you might come up with a
great hack (I don't want to discourage you). But, a straight python
trimmed down app would probably be better... what led you to django?
It seems from your descriptions, which don't make sense by the way, that
you are attempting to create your own 'browser' within your app (web
api) and you want to use a standard browser (like firefox or chrome) to
'front-end' the apps bookmarks. So, your app needs to be able to read
your browser's bookmarks file.
Browsers most certainly can read http:// https:// file:// etc. (and many
more). Your api may not be able to read local file:// urls, but I'm
skeptical about that (most web api(s) have no trouble with file:// either).
Provide some more info, somebody will help.
marcus
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Re: Advice for choosing correct architecture/tech for a hobby project
I know that there are many online ways to do what I am trying to do but this was something I wanted to make. I have learnt Python myself and wanted to learn a way to make apps in Python. GUI development in Python has given a lot of headache while trying to find an appropriate framework with the addons(community, designer tool, documentation, open source etc.). The only nearly viable solution that I found was Kivy but the current project idea that I had was this bookmarker project which needed to have a way to add bookmarks easily through browser so I settled on the most popular web framework present. On Friday, May 23, 2014 2:58:51 AM UTC+5:30, Ethan Furman wrote: On 05/22/2014 11:54 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: I am working on a hobby project - a Bookmarker https://github.com/anshbansal/Bookmarker. Take a look at delicio.us -- it seems to be a similar type of experience. -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Advice for choosing correct architecture/tech for a hobby project
I am working on a hobby project - a Bookmarker https://github.com/anshbansal/Bookmarker. Basically bookmarks like in webbrowser stored in a app. The twist is storage by categories. I have spent some time on choosing the correct tech for making this project but it seems it would be better to take some advice on this after I went through this discussion on django forums https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/django-users/rSqSftkl5mg. I want to be able to add bookmarks to the app through browser. I want a front-end from which I am able to browse the bookmarks. The browsing front-end should have a search option(search for category) for filtering the bookmarks. As per these requirements that I have framed so far I thought that a web framework would be a good choice and so I chose Django. The reason being the capability to add bookmarks through browser can be done easily through JavaScript. But I hit a snag today that webbrowser's won't allow client to open hyperlinks with file protocol. I have both offline and online bookmarks so that was a problem for me. Now I am at my experience's ends. I have spent 15-20 days' spare time trying to decide the technology and now this snag. Can someone advice on this? Am I using correct technology? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Confusion about python versions
Python 2.7.6 release candidate 1 and 3.3.3 release candidate 1 was released yesterday. Also Python 3.4.0 alpha 4 was released a week ago. I thought as Python 3.4.0 alpha was released 3.3 branch was done. The 3.3.3 release candidate fixes many bugs as per the changelog so would they be included in 3.4.0? For how long do the older versions get supported in case of Python? Do bugfix releases for older versions keeps on happening even when new branch is released? Isn't that a lot of work to manage so many versions? How do the Python versions work? For how long is Python 2 going to be supported? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Beginner - GUI devlopment in Tkinter - Any IDE with drag and drop feature like Visual Studio?
You need to install PySide for GUI development. You don't need Qt Creator. When you have PySide installed there is a Qt Designer in your python installation directory. You use that for drag and drop GUI development. Search google for PySide and you'll find tutorials for that. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
What minimum should a person know before saying I know Python
I started Python 4 months ago. Largely self-study with use of Python documentation, stackoverflow and google. I was thinking what is the minimum that I must know before I can say that I know Python? I come from a C background which is comparatively smaller. But as Python is comparatively much larger what minimum should I know? Just a general question not for a specific purpose. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What minimum should a person know before saying I know Python
By C being smaller than Python I did not mean the scope of C is lesser than Python. I simply meant that the standard libraries are less in number compared to Python. By knowing Python I didn't imply an expert-level understanding. Minimum that so someone cannot say Hey, you said you knew Python but you don't know anything.. Something on these lines. You can say for cracking interviews and/or as a junior programmar and/or as a fresher getting into industry. I like to have test cases for my functions/scripts but that wasn't what I had in my mind. Also I am learning Python because it is faster to make things with it. Not because it is going to get me any marks or anything. @Tim Chase That list helped. I was looking for something like that. Questions which I can try to answer and see where I stand. I hope that cleared some confusion about what I wanted to ask. I wanted to gauge myself to find if I am progressing or not. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What minimum should a person know before saying I know Python
On Friday, September 20, 2013 10:04:32 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I hope that cleared some confusion about what I wanted to ask. I wanted to gauge myself to find if I am progressing or not. Well, based on my definition, that's easy to answer. Have you solved problems using Python? If you have a bunch of HTML pages and you need to get some info out of all of them by COB today, do you think I can do that with Python, or do you think I can do that with sed, awk, grep, and five levels of pipe? The tools you use for an urgent job will be the ones you know. ChrisA Yeah I have. I needed to get stats from the front page of a website. I wrote a script for that. I plotted the stats using matplotlib. I collected data manually and missed running the script one day so I took care of that problem using Python. Wrote a script that checked for internet connectivity and then ran the scripts that downloaded the stuff I needed and then placed this script in the Windows startup folder. That was a nice feeling. Because I can just customize that startup script if I ever wanted to change my computer's startup behaviour. But that was pure luck that I had done the random example that you had chosen. It would be difficult to find my overall progress by the one thing. I am currently unemployed so the sense of urgency isn't there normally. That's why I asked this question. But I got your point. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What minimum should a person know before saying I know Python
I understand that being able to solve problems and knowing when to use something is the final measure of knowing something properly. But I wanted to find something quantitative that I can use to measure myself. Like the interview questions that Tim Chase posted. Measuring myself based on the problems that I can think of is like a small child saying I know that 1 + 1 = 2. So I know maths. That may be the toughest problem that he can think of. That isn't a correct evaluation of his math abilities. Similarly measuring myself on the basis of the problems that I can think of and solve doesn't actually measure anything. I don't want to be living in a fool's paradise based on solving the problems I can solve. It is not being able to solve a problem that will make me realize my limits. That's why I asked this question... I am kind of asking for advice. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: building an online judge to evaluate Python programs
However, it can only be used with programs that produce an output Just interested, what else are you thinking of checking? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
A question about semantics from the standard library's documentation
In Python 3.3.2 documentation on the Python Standard library's introduction these sentences are given For these types, the Python language core defines the form of literals and places some constraints on their semantics, but does not fully define the semantics. (On the other hand, the language core does define syntactic properties like the spelling and priorities of operators.) That got me confused. What is defined by the language and what is not? Can someone give me an example about what this means? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Is this a bug in Python 3.3?
While using IDLE I used the license() function to see the license information. In it there was a list of all the versions and from which version they are derived is written. The list goes upto 3.3.1 but doesn't include 3.3.2. Is that a minor bug or is the current version not mentioned in that list? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download
I do depend on offline documentation. I have both Python2 and 3's documentation offline. A lot of people have 24-hour access to internet but a lot of people don't have. And while moving around it isn't always possible to have internet then offline documentation is really helpful. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PEPs should be included with the documentation download
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:25:44 PM UTC+5:30, rand...@fastmail.us wrote: I think, though, that if there's any useful information that can be obtained by reading accepted PEPs but not the documentation, or if things are explained less clearly than in the PEPs, that's a bug in the documentation, and should be remedied by adding to the documentation. PEP8 is referenced a lot but only a very small portion is included in the documentation (in the tutorial). I am a Python newbie and there may be other PEPs usually referenced which I might not be aware about. Maybe add selected PEPs to the documentation? I agree that adding rejected PEPs is no good but there may be PEPs worthy of addition to the documentation. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Where to suggest improvements in the official Python documentation?
@Joel Goldstick Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com My specific question was that the Python documentation's tutorial isn't clear when it comes to lambda forms. I just wanted something to be done so it becomes clear for future readers who are not familiar with functional paradigm. I wanted to make a suggestion about adding a link to functional programming to add some clarity. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Found a grammar error in PEP 5. How to suggest correction?
In PEP 5 it is 4. Add an an optional warning mode to the parser that will inform There are 2 `an`s here. How to suggest a correction for this? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Found a grammar error in PEP 5. How to suggest correction?
@Joel Goldstick That is the documentation and this is about the PEP. I didn't realize that the same works for both. I'll do that. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Found a grammar error in PEP 5. How to suggest correction?
@ Terry Jan Reedy, @Joel Goldstick The problem with that documentation link is that it says the bugs in that documentation should be mailed at that e-mail address. But the PEPs are not the part of the documentation. I am saying that PEPs are not its part because when I downloaded the documentation it did not contain the PEPs. So the information in the documentation is misleading because it doesn't include the PEPs in the downloaded version but the e-mail address is used to accept PEP bugs according to you people. peps at python dot org is the e-mail suggested in PEP1 for contacting the PEP editors. I e-mailed there and got a reply. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PEPs should be included with the documentation download
Currently the documentation download includes a lot of things but PEPs are not its part. I wanted to suggest that PEPs should be included in the download. They are very much relevant to Python. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Where to suggest improvements in the official Python documentation?
@ Terry Jan Reedy If there is an issue in place for improving the lambda forms then that's good. I wanted a link about functional programming because it is mentioned as if it were a household word. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Where to suggest improvements in the official Python documentation?
I have a suggestion about the Python tutorial for improvement. Specifically about in Python tutorial 4.7.5 lambda forms. http://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/controlflow.html#lambda-forms It is not very clear from the tutorial what lambda forms are for someone who doesn't know functional programming. I think placing a link of functional Programming HOWTO of Python documentation can take out much confusion for Python newbies. I would like to suggest this because as I newbiw I had much confusion 2 months back before I could figure out its proper use. Where do I suggest this improvement? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Can someone suggest better resources for learning sqlite3? I wanted to use the Python library but I don't know sql.
I was writing a Python script for getting the user stats of a website(Specifically codereview.stackexchange). I wanted to store the stats in a database. I found Python3's sqlite3 library. I found that I needed sql commands for using it. I have tried sql.learncodethehardway but it isn't complete yet. I tired looking on stackoverflow's sql tag also but nothing much there. Can someone suggest me better resources for learning sql/sqlite3? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Beginner - GUI devlopment in Tkinter - Any IDE with drag and drop feature like Visual Studio?
@Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick Yeah, as I mentioned I was able to use it to create .py files and the GUI ran. But when I made the .exe from the .py using cxfreeze it created exe but the GUI did not run. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Beginner - GUI devlopment in Tkinter - Any IDE with drag and drop feature like Visual Studio?
After considering all the options suggested here I decided to use PySide/QtCreator as was suggested by Dave Cook. I created a simple GUI with QtCreator and found a way to convert .ui files to .py files. So far so good. But now I am having some confusion about the correct tools to use for PySide and I am stuck due to that. I explored the PySide wiki and discussed the confusion on Qt-forums but that didn't help much. The url of that discussion is given below(without backslashes to avoid it being shortened). Just using this on google you can easily find the discussion. qt-project.org forums viewthread 30114 Do I need to use QtCreator with PySide if I want drag-and-drop feature for GUI development? Do I need to install Qt? If yes, which version - 4.8 or 5.1? Can I use cxfreeze to make exe files from the GUI developed? I used it for pure Python files and it worked. The size of the file was big but it worked with me having to install Python on another computer. I tried to use cxfreeze on the GUI Python script that I was finally able to make. Some exe was made but no GUI started when I ran the exe. Is that a problem with cxfreeze or me having wrong tools installed? Any help is appreciated. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
@vikash agrawal About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll need downloadable clients if I want to make something like google talk. Then I'll need to implement server side programming also. I think google app engine would be suitable for this as it is going to be always online. In the above scenario I wanted to know whether the database can be stored on google app engine itself? Is it possible? Having a chat system with server online and DB offline isn't going to be good. Should I consider heroku for this or can it be done using google app engine? Is it viable to have the DB on google appengine itself? About using web frameworks, in the above scenario when there isn't an online website for chat would I need web frameworks? I am confused about this. Can server side programming be done in Python or by using a web framework only? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
@Chris Angelico Thanks. That cleared many doubts and your suggestions would definitely be useful. I am asking the next paragraph because you said about Python 3 helping with things. I am not looking for a debate or anything just a opinion. I learnt Python myself and everyone told me that Python 2 is status quo so I learned Python 2 and have been working with it. I am just 1.5 months in Python programming so should I consider switching to Python 3 if it helps with new things or should I stick with Python 2 to get a taste of what is currently out there? About Pike, thanks for the heads up. But for now I'll use Python. I wanted to learn Python through this project. I'll leave Pike for later. Maybe Phase 1.5. Aren't you guys posting in google groups? I thought you were because I can see your posts here. How do I post in python mailing list and see its archives instead of posting on google groups? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
@Andrew Berg @Chris Angelico Is there a way to have both Python 2 and 3 installed on my computer till I can update the little codebase that I have built? Can I make different commands for invoking python 2 and Python 3? I am using Windows 7 and use Windows Powershell as an alternative to the linux terminal. Any suggestions about how to do that instead of breaking all my code at once? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
@ChrisA Thanks. That's great. That solved the whole thing easily. I'll install Python 3 and start updating today. About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? I have never read a newsgroup leave alone participated in one. I am used to forums like stackoverflow. Any way to read it and reply by one interface? If not, give any suggestion. I'll use that. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
@ChrisA I subscribed to it. How do I reply to a message that has already been posted before my subscription? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
I tried replying to your message by mail. I used the reply button and send it to python-list@python.org? Or do I need to use pytho...@python.org as you wrote in your post? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
Ok I'll mail by e-mail now. Hope that it reaches the place correctly.-- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. I wanted to know what will I need? I think that would require me these 1 learn network/socket programming 2 find a free server to host my chat server 3 GUI development for clients -I wanted to know whether these are all that I would need or are there more things? -Will I need to learn a web framework like Django? -Will I need to learn something for database management like sql for handling people's account names and password? Is google appengine good for hosting the website or should I look up at django hosting websites? Any other advice for me(a novice programmer)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)
On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:13:45 AM UTC+5:30, John Ladasky wrote: Hi folks, No, I'm not asking for YOU to help ME with a Python homework assignment! Previously, I mentioned that I was starting to teach my son Python. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/I7spp6iC3tw/8lxUXfrL-9gJ He just took a course at his high school called Web Technology and Design. They had the students use tools like Dream Weaver, but they also hand-coded some HTML and JavaScript. He has a little experience. I am building on it. Well, a few other parents caught wind of what I was doing with my son, and they asked me whether I could tutor their kids, too. I accepted the jobs (for pay, actually). The kids all claim to be interested. They all want to write the next great 3D video game. Thus, I'm a little surprised that the kids don't actually try to sit down and code without me prompting them. I think that they're disappointed when I show them how much they have to understand just to write a program that plays Tic Tac Toe. Where programming is concerned, I'm an autodidact. I started programming when I was twelve, with little more guidance than the Applesoft Basic manual and the occasional issue of Byte Magazine. I hacked away. Over the years, I have acquired a working knowledge of BASIC, 6502 assembly language, Pascal, C, and finally Python (my favorite). If I knew how to impart a love of experimentation to my students, I would do that. One kid looks like he's ready to forge ahead. In the mean time, one parent has recognized his son's lack of independence, and has asked me to assign programming homework. I hope it doesn't kill the kid's enthusiasm, but I'm willing to try it. So, what I am seeking are suggestions for programming assignments that I can give to brand-new students of Python. Please keep in mind that none of them are even up to the task of a simple algorithm like Bubble Sort -- at least, not yet. Many thanks! You can use PySide/QtCreator for getting a skeleton UI as easily as in case of Visual Studio. Converting it into .py files is also quite easy. Experiment a little for yourself in the beginning and you'll be able to make a simple Tic-Tac-Toe easily. You can then decide how complex that becomes. Remember that computer's behaviour just might be the most complex thing in this whole thing. You can then take that out, explain the students that the game will work if you can make a function for this, explain the logic and that can be a really nice homework assignment. I think that would be much better than just jumping off to a game engine sidetracking Python completely. If you want to introduce them to programming in general in a fun way http://scratch.mit.edu/ might be much easier for making simple 2D games. It isn't Python but it is even better introduction to programming than Python(I am saying this even when I use Python everyday and I like it). Scratch isn't for long term but initially this could be their dose of excitement and introduction to the basics of programming. That would give you time to make simple games in PySide for taking them to Python gradually without killing their excitement. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
@Eric S. Johansson I am a novice who hasn't done any big project in programming. I haven't done anything I can even call a moderate project. I haven't touched web frameworks ever. I have little or no knowledge of network/socket programming. I have never used databases before. I understand that there are a lot of chat systems out there but I haven't done anything like that before. This is for learning purposes. Reading someone else's code is good but doing it yourself is better. Thanks for the suggestion but for now I'll stick to this idea. I am excited about this and I would need that for a hobby project. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Beginner - GUI devlopment in Tkinter - Any IDE with drag and drop feature like Visual Studio?
@CM Thanks for the suggestion. I'll take a look. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Beginner - GUI devlopment in Tkinter - Any IDE with drag and drop feature like Visual Studio?
Thanks @Dave Cook. I'll try wxPython. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Beginner - GUI devlopment in Tkinter - Any IDE with drag and drop feature like Visual Studio?
I want to start GUI development using Tkinter in Python 2.7.5. I have been searching all over google but couldn't find any IDE that has drag-and-drop feature for Python GUI development. Tried to ask on stackoverflow (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17439620/an-ide-with-drag-and-drop-feature-for-python-2-7-tkinter) but couldn't get an answer there. So is there any IDE that can be used for GUI developemnt and has drag-and-drop feature for Python GUI dev? I came across somewhere that eclipse's pydev plugin can be used but couldn't find anything on its website. Any advice about this? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
