Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-03-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:51 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:54:52 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> But this part sounds like prime quality tinfoil hat material: >> >>> Tell me how exactly ultrasonic side channels may activate remotely

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-03-01, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > The bandwidth normally used for voice grade telephone traffic is closer > to 6kHz (say 300Hz to 6.3kHz) Wow, that's pretty high -- where was that? Back when I was designing telephony electronics in US in the late 80's, POTS

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Terry Reedy
Instead of berating us for not answering an extremely obscure question, you should have use Ms SearchBox first, like I did to determine whether these are real subjects. On 2/28/2018 5:31 PM, Etienne Robillard wrote: If ultrasonic side channels are a threat to privacy, it is because smart

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Rick Johnson
On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 4:34:11 PM UTC-6, Etienne Robillard wrote: > A great number of studies have shown that ultrasonic > neuromodulation of the central nervous system can be > exploited via brain-computer interfaces... It is cutting > edge science however, and my knowledge on

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 2/28/18 7:01 PM, Etienne Robillard wrote:  What do rats find rewarding in play fighting? This is well outside the topics for this list. --Ned. Le 2018-02-28 à 18:29, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:54:52 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > But this part sounds like prime quality tinfoil hat material: > >> Tell me how exactly ultrasonic side channels may activate remotely >> specific neural pathways implicated in aggressivity and how to block >> theses specific side

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread John Gordon
In Chris Angelico writes: > > Tell me how exactly ultrasonic side channels may activate remotely specific > > neural pathways implicated in aggressivity and how to block theses specific > > side channels from neuromodulating

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Etienne Robillard
What do rats find rewarding in play fighting? Le 2018-02-28 à 18:29, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: I'd go further... what gave you the idea that ANYONE is an expert on ultrasonic activation of neural

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-02-28, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> I'd go further... what gave you the idea that ANYONE is an expert on >> ultrasonic activation of neural pathways? > > Definitely tinfoil hat

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'd go further... what gave you the idea that ANYONE is an expert on > ultrasonic activation of neural pathways? Definitely tinfoil hat material here; expertise is completely immaterial. ChrisA --

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:13:52 -0500, Etienne Robillard wrote: > Hey, > > I want to know why this question is being silently ignored by this > group. Possibly because we have no idea of the answer? Or we thought it was too obvious to answer? Do you have a microphone that can detect ultrasound?

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Etienne Robillard
If ultrasonic side channels are a threat to privacy, it is because smart phones were designed to exploit this precise feature. A great number of studies have shown that ultrasonic neuromodulation of the central nervous system can be exploited via brain-computer interfaces... It is cutting

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 2/28/18 4:13 PM, Etienne Robillard wrote: >> >> I want to know why this question is being silently ignored by this group. > > > If no one has any information about your topic, then no one will say > anything.

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 2/28/18 4:13 PM, Etienne Robillard wrote: I want to know why this question is being silently ignored by this group. If no one has any information about your topic, then no one will say anything.  Python on Android is very specialized as it is, and I have no idea what ultrasonic side

Re: Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-28 Thread Etienne Robillard
Hey, I want to know why this question is being silently ignored by this group. I think it is essential to develop cryptoanalysis tools (like softwares) to detect and block ultrasonic signals in mobile devices. Using Python to detect or block ultrasonic side channels would be very

Detection of ultrasonic side channels in mobile devices with Python?

2018-02-26 Thread Etienne Robillard
Hi, I would like to know if its possible to detect or decode ultrasonic signals in mobiles devices like Android with Python? For a introduction to ultrasonic tracking, see: https://www.wired.com/2016/11/block-ultrasonic-signals-didnt-know-tracking/ Thank you, Etienne -- Etienne Robillard