Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-30 Thread David Lyon
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:05:51 -0700 (PDT), Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote: No, it's the problem of the Pythonic packaging brigade that package retrieval, building and installing is combined into one unsatisfactory whole. Brigade? That implies a disciplined and systematic approach.. I

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-27 Thread Robin Becker
Florian Diesch wrote: . From /usr/lib/python2.6/site.py: , | For Debian and derivatives, this sys.path is augmented with directories | for packages distributed within the distribution. Local addons go | into /usr/local/lib/pythonversion/dist-packages, Debian addons | install into

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-27 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Paul Boddie wrote: On 26 Aug, 17:48, Jorgen Grahn grahn+n...@snipabacken.se wrote: Well, if you are thinking about Debian Linux, it's not as much ripping out as splitting into a separate package with a non-obvious name. Annoying at times, but hardly an atrocity. Indeed. Having seen two

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Boddie
On 27 Aug, 15:27, Diez B. Roggisch de...@nospam.web.de wrote: You mean it's the problem of the python packaging that it can't deal with RPMs, debs, tgzs, OSX bundles, MSIs and put-in-the-next-big-packaging-thing-here? No, it's the problem of the Pythonic packaging brigade that package

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-27 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Diez B. Roggischde...@nospam.web.de wrote: Paul Boddie wrote: On 26 Aug, 17:48, Jorgen Grahn grahn+n...@snipabacken.se wrote: Well, if you are thinking about Debian Linux, it's not as much ripping out as splitting into a separate package with a non-obvious

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-27 Thread Florian Diesch
Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com writes: Florian Diesch wrote: . From /usr/lib/python2.6/site.py: , | For Debian and derivatives, this sys.path is augmented with directories | for packages distributed within the distribution. Local addons go | into

ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-26 Thread Robin Becker
I was surprised a couple of days ago when trying to assist a colleage with his python setup on a ubuntu 9.04 system. We built our c-extensions and manually copied them into place, but site-packages wasn't there. It seems that ubuntu now wants stuff to go into lib/python2.6/dist-packages.

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Robin Becker wrote: I was surprised a couple of days ago when trying to assist a colleage with his python setup on a ubuntu 9.04 system. We built our c-extensions and manually copied them into place, but site-packages wasn't there. It seems that ubuntu now wants stuff to go into

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-26 Thread Ben Finney
Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com writes: What is the relation between dist-packages/site-packages if any? Is this just a name change or is there some other problem being addressed? The problem being addressed is to maintain the distinction between OS-vendor-managed files versus

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-26 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:46:13 +0200, Diez B. Roggisch de...@nospam.web.de wrote: Robin Becker wrote: I was surprised a couple of days ago when trying to assist a colleage with his python setup on a ubuntu 9.04 system. We built our c-extensions and manually copied them into place, but

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-26 Thread Robin Becker
Jorgen Grahn wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:46:13 +0200, Diez B. Roggisch Well, if you are thinking about Debian Linux, it's not as much ripping out as splitting into a separate package with a non-obvious name. Annoying at times, but hardly an atrocity. so where is the official place

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-26 Thread Florian Diesch
Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com writes: I was surprised a couple of days ago when trying to assist a colleage with his python setup on a ubuntu 9.04 system. We built our c-extensions and manually copied them into place, but site-packages wasn't there. It seems that ubuntu now wants stuff to

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-26 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:20:35 +0100, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote: Jorgen Grahn wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:46:13 +0200, Diez B. Roggisch Well, if you are thinking about Debian Linux, it's not as much ripping out as splitting into a separate package with a non-obvious

Re: ubuntu dist-packages

2009-08-26 Thread Paul Boddie
On 26 Aug, 17:48, Jorgen Grahn grahn+n...@snipabacken.se wrote: Well, if you are thinking about Debian Linux, it's not as much ripping out as splitting into a separate package with a non-obvious name. Annoying at times, but hardly an atrocity. Indeed. Having seen two packages today which