Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-11 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/11/2014 2:27 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: Mark Lawrence writes: IDLE is available on all platforms and is written in tkinter. But personally I'd rather use the command line :) In the meantime, I have learned that tkinter in fact has become part of a standard Python implementations, and i

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 10/06/2014 04:32, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE and C# already are better than Python insofar as they include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Python one first has to choose b

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: >>On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: >>>AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE >>>and C# already are better than Python insofar as they >>>include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Py

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: >>On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: >>>AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE >>>and C# already are better than Python insofar as they >>>include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In P

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: > AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE > and C# already are better than Python insofar as they > include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Python one first > has to choose between more than a dozen of »GUI framework

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> > The most intuitive approach to database applications would be: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_objects > > http://www.nakedobjects.org/ > > > > [...] > > > > Unfortunately, there's no Python framework (yet?) that implements > > this design. > > It could be a blessing in disguise. To

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-02 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Wolfgang Keller : > The most intuitive approach to database applications would be: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_objects > http://www.nakedobjects.org/ > > [...] > > Unfortunately, there's no Python framework (yet?) that implements this > design. It could be a blessing in disguise. Too o

Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> I had developed many database business applications using MVC design > pattern with different programming languages like PHP, Java EE, > VB.NET, C#, VB 6.0, VBA, etc. All of them defined the Model layer as > the data management of the application domain and business logic > implementation. I read

[OT] Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-01 Thread Dan Sommers
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 10:37:24 -0700, Ernest Bonat, Ph.D. wrote: > ... MVC design pattern ... defined the Model layer as the data > management of the application domain and business logic implementation > ... Can we implement the application business logic in another layer? > Yes or no? Why? Explai

Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

2014-06-01 Thread Ernest Bonat, Ph.D.
Hi All, I had developed many database business applications using MVC design pattern with different programming languages like PHP, Java EE, VB.NET, C#, VB 6.0, VBA, etc. All of them defined the Model layer as the data management of the application domain and business logic implementation. I ready