Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using py2app on 10.5 to build apps that run on 10.4?

2008-02-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
using the "-mmacosx-version-min=10.4." This is using a custom build of Python 2.5.1 that links to Tk 8.5, my own build of Tk 8.5, and various Tk extensions. I can't speak for 10.3.9. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com __

[Pythonmac-SIG] PythonLauncher not working properly on Leopard

2008-01-22 Thread Kevin Walzer
AESend(activate): error -600 1/22/08 9:28:56 AM Python Launcher[53692] Exit status: -600 1/22/08 9:28:56 AM com.apple.launchd[118] ([0x0-0x434434].org.python.PythonLauncher[53692]) Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 53694 PPID 1 Terminal Hope someone can look into this, K

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Tk Aqua (Quit binding)

2008-01-17 Thread Kevin Walzer
sys.exit() And then bind it like thus: self.protocol('WM_DELETE_WINDOW', self.shutDown) self.bind('', lambda event: self.shutDown()) self.bind('', lambda event: self.shutDown()) HTH, Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How can I make Leo play with Tiger?

2008-01-08 Thread Kevin Walzer
> before actually installing Leo. AFAIK, you should be able to simply download Leo and run "python leo.py." It's a Python-Tk-based application, and OS X (10.4 and 10.5) comes with both. Have you tried this? -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com __

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PIL icns plugin can't display icns file

2008-01-07 Thread Kevin Walzer
Kevin Walzer wrote: > > > I'm not sure what is causing Python to barf here. PIL is supposed to be > able to create valid Tkinter photo objects, so I don't think the issue > is with Tk not recognizing the icns format. Any suggestions? > > To answer my own que

[Pythonmac-SIG] PIL icns plugin can't display icns file

2008-01-07 Thread Kevin Walzer
e is with Tk not recognizing the icns format. Any suggestions? -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Possibly OT: Get path to icon file for PIL?

2008-01-04 Thread Kevin Walzer
e image for an arbitrary file type, but this looks promising. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

[Pythonmac-SIG] Possibly OT: Get path to icon file for PIL?

2008-01-03 Thread Kevin Walzer
files, but that seems too haphazard. AppleScript also lists an API for finding icons, but it's not implemented. Any advice is appreciated. --Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonm

[Pythonmac-SIG] Where to submit patches for py2app?

2008-01-02 Thread Kevin Walzer
I've assembled some updated files for the py2app recipe for PyQt 4 (sip.py) as well as an example file and setup.py. Where should these be submitted? Is Bob Ippolito still doing development work on py2app or has someone else taken over maintenance? -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Tk 8.5 and leopard.

2007-12-27 Thread Kevin Walzer
m not sure if this is a problem or not--I haven't observed any performance problems with Python/Tkinter 8.5. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

[Pythonmac-SIG] Problems with PythonLauncher on Leopard

2007-12-19 Thread Kevin Walzer
PythonLauncher is supposed to do this for me. Has anyone else observed this kind of behavior? --Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python TkAqua, Tkinter bug

2007-11-02 Thread Kevin Walzer
hich is in /System/Library/Frameworks. It's highly unlikely that bugs in 8.4.7 will be fixed at this point, if they haven't been fixed already. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python TkAqua, Tkinter bug

2007-11-02 Thread Kevin Walzer
ideas on where the problem is, who to notify, etc.? > > Thanks, > Dave Are you using the built-in Tk that comes with OS X? It's ancient (8.4.7 on Tiger, and not updated for Leopard). Try installing a more recent version, such as 8.4.16, from ActiveState and see if that solves the p

[Pythonmac-SIG] py2app: Leopard vs. Tiger

2007-10-10 Thread Kevin Walzer
pp on 10.5 run on 10.4 if all the frameworks were originally build on 10.4? Does py2app introduce any kind of additional compilation that would break backward OS compatability? -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonma

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] easygui

2007-10-04 Thread Kevin Walzer
demo with illustrations of the various dialogs/widgets that EasyGUI can implement. Without a bit more information about what you are doing, I can't help diagnose the problem. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonma

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] entire applications in python?

2007-10-03 Thread Kevin Walzer
ise, is there a book on objective-c for experienced programmers? Aaron Hillegass's book on Cocoa programming is highly recommended. --Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] relocatable Python framework?

2007-09-19 Thread Kevin Walzer
hnical rather than the average end user, they won't object to package installers--it's pretty standard for large, complex application systems. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonm

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] warning: newbie ahead

2007-09-15 Thread Kevin Walzer
wbie! And I work > alone, so I have nobody to ask or even look over the shoulder of to > see how its all set up. I hope these answers are helpful. A complete introduction to Python is beyond what I can provide, but there are lots of resources out there, and Python should be a sn

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Source for pythonmac.org releases?

2007-08-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
e for Python is available at http://python.org, and the official source package should build a framework install just fine on OS X. Just follow the instructions in the "readme" file. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com _

[Pythonmac-SIG] Call PyObjC methods from wxPython?

2007-07-03 Thread Kevin Walzer
bigger leap to nib files). Any advice is appreciated. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 64-bit code

2007-06-17 Thread Kevin Walzer
#x27;t be 64-bit eventually...does anyone really expect Adobe to port Photoshop or Microsoft to port Office to Objective-C? -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] findertools.launch reports "no eligible process"

2007-06-17 Thread Kevin Walzer
; A couple of questions: 1. Will applications that are 32 bit have any problems running under Leopard? 2. Would Python have to be specifically compiled as 64-bit to support PyObjC, or would 32-bit Python be OK? --Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Porting a Tkinter application to Cocoa: question about datatypes

2007-06-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
() self.status.set('Ready') then in another function, I can call this: self.status.set('Process terminated') and the value of the label widget will be updated. Was this functionality hard to manage or missing in Objective-C/Cocoa before the "Cocoa Bin

[Pythonmac-SIG] Porting a Tkinter application to Cocoa: question about datatypes

2007-06-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
) form. Is this a feasible approach, or does using PyObjC require adopting more of an "Objective-C" mindset, designing the entire app from the top down to use NS*-datatypes? That's a lot more work and I might as well learn Objective-C and just use that. TIA, Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] findertools.launch reports "no eligible process"

2007-06-08 Thread Kevin Walzer
because it supports non-blocking output: subprocess does not, at least not without some additional hacks. I'm glad it will still be around for a while. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist -

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PIL 1.1.6 for OS X

2007-05-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
ac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > > -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] StuffIt 10 can corrupt applications packaged with py2app

2007-04-25 Thread Kevin Walzer
Christopher Barker wrote: > 1) is there a point-and-click and/or drag-and-drop way to create *.dmgs? There are lots of freeware and shareware apps that do this--FreeDMG is a good one. There are also command-line wrappers for hdiutils. Just google. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin h

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] StuffIt 10 can corrupt applications packaged with py2app

2007-04-24 Thread Kevin Walzer
stead of Stuffit. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] easy_install question

2007-04-23 Thread Kevin Walzer
my development tools made my work this easy! -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Update list of Mac applications using Python

2007-04-14 Thread Kevin Walzer
Kevin Walzer wrote: > Hi all, > > In addition to putting together some updates for the official MacPython > documentation (still in progress, but to be submitted to the tracker > soon), I also want to do some updates to the MacPython wiki, now hosted > at http://wiki.python.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Tkinter issue in 2.5

2007-04-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
;s any particular problem with 8.4.10--I never had any problems with IDLE crashing with a Python 2.4.x/Tk 8.4.10 combination. Tk 8.4.10 is most likely PPC-only; could there be some obscure conflict between the universal Python tkinter.so and a PP

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Suggested revisions for MacPython documentation section 1--please review

2007-04-11 Thread Kevin Walzer
Thanks for the help! I'll fold these suggestions in to the new docs and submit them to the tracker shortly. Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 6 Apr, 2007, at 0:11, Kevin Walzer wrote: > >> I've taken some time to prepare a draft update to section 1 of the >> MacPytho

[Pythonmac-SIG] Update list of Mac applications using Python

2007-04-11 Thread Kevin Walzer
ny of these applications, I would appreciate it: Drawbot (is it current?) RegExPlor RestEdit TomatoTorrent: Looks current, but what's the difference between this and BitTorrent? Isn't there an official Mac build written with one of the standard Mac GUI toolkits? (Sorry, not a BitT

[Pythonmac-SIG] Suggested revisions for MacPython documentation section 1--please review

2007-04-05 Thread Kevin Walzer
I've taken some time to prepare a draft update to section 1 of the MacPython documentation that ships with the standard Python 2.5 distribution: the anchor link for this is file:///Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/Resources/English.lproj/Documentation/mac/using.html. The current

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Macintosh modules/Carbon/documentation

2007-04-02 Thread Kevin Walzer
otes of stuff to update. Can't help with the Carbon bits, alas, it's beyond my expertise. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

[Pythonmac-SIG] Macintosh modules/Carbon/documentation

2007-03-30 Thread Kevin Walzer
What's the process for this? -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython wiki "moved" to Python wiki - now it's your turn...

2007-03-30 Thread Kevin Walzer
would anyone mind if I got started? A lot of this stuff doesn't appear to have been touched for three or four years. Any thoughts about what is most pressing? I have my own interests, and I'm not qualified to edit everything, but I'm open to suggestions. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [ann] PyOSA 0.1.0, Appscript Installer 1.5.1 released

2007-03-27 Thread Kevin Walzer
ownload at: > > http://appscript.sourceforge.net/download.html > > Enjoy! > > has > --http://appscript.sourceforge.net > http://rb-appscript.rubyforge.org > http://appscript.sourceforge.net/objc-appscript.html has, I'm confused--how is this

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to create a desktop alias to run a python file?

2007-03-23 Thread Kevin Walzer
ly want to figure it out, here's the documentation: > > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/CoreFoundation/Conceptual/CFBundles/Concepts/BundleAnatomy.html > > > Kent > > ___ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@p

[Pythonmac-SIG] Display icons from Carbon?

2007-03-21 Thread Kevin Walzer
7;m using the latter, for what it's worth.) TIA, Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Tkinter Question...

2007-02-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
gt; Use Python 2.5. I had no problems getting it to link against a more recent build of Tcl/Tk Aqua--I think it does so by default and look at the Apple-installed version only as a fallback. - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Opening an app from another app under different OS X versions

2007-01-24 Thread Kevin Walzer
ain app's application bundle itself? Perhaps it's a path issue, i.e. 'open' can't find the app to open. If so, you may need to do some work to get a full path to the help app, then launch it (i.e., os.system('open -a /path/to/myapp.app') ). - -- Kevin Wa

[Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjc learning curve from Tkinter background?

2007-01-12 Thread Kevin Walzer
ven without worrying about memory management. Any advice is appreciated. - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFp/cGEsLm8HXyq4sRAgzDAJ9lIIKjex

[Pythonmac-SIG] Shareware application using Tkinter

2007-01-05 Thread Kevin Walzer
ist who have helped me greatly with improving my Python and Tkinter chops, including Ronald Oussoren, Bop Ippolito, and Russell Owen. - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with M

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonmac packages question

2006-12-07 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > tkinter is part of the standard installation for macpython. > What does this mean? Does MacPython 2.5 now install a universal build of the Tcl/Tk frameworks in /Library/Frameworks? - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykev

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app iconfile not working?

2006-11-27 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You could just add the icon file to the app bundle after py2app is done running, and edit info.plist if necessary with the updated icon name. Kind of a hack, but this has worked for me. - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com

[Pythonmac-SIG] Tkinter resources

2006-11-25 Thread Kevin Walzer
eenshots in the pylocate pages were taken under OS X. Hope these prove useful to others, as starting points for your own work if nothing else. Corrections and improvements are of course invited; it's a wiki! - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Is there a Python 2.5 Framework?

2006-11-16 Thread Kevin Walzer
e Mac OS X version of Python 2.5 from python.org. - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFXSNvEsLm8HXyq4sRAkHvAJ4lbuSUMq6czjJS2cbKVmTsJu4DcwCeJD9f fHY0L

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE and MacPython 2.5

2006-11-01 Thread Kevin Walzer
. - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFRkYYEsLm8HXyq4sRAoP8AJ0VvREQn5pnoUaAaHrl6nbR/9651ACfUJXI uvRFk11dYEwaPAAb3L5Cz8Q= =pESD -END PGP

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Terminal to not have an application signature in Leopard

2006-10-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
which is obsolete. The old PythonIDE and PackageManager were built using these frameworks IIRC. I hope EasyDialogs remains in Python, however (I have one application that depends on it). - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (D

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build/install framework Python in non-standard location

2006-10-16 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Ippolito wrote: > On 10/16/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I'm trying to build a framework Python 2.5 that installs to a >> non-standard location (/usr/local/python-unix-framework). The reason I&

[Pythonmac-SIG] Build/install framework Python in non-standard location

2006-10-16 Thread Kevin Walzer
stead of the default? And why doesn't Python pick up the ./configure flags correctly anyway? - --Kevin - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozill

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] universal python; how to use my aqua tcl/tk?

2006-09-08 Thread Kevin Walzer
onmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > > I had a similar question a few weeks ago: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythonmac-sig/2006-July/017779.html Hope this helps. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Running "freeze" on non-framework Python/universal binary issues

2006-07-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Jul 20, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> The

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Running "freeze" on non-framework Python/universal binary issues

2006-07-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
the built-in freeze tool. > I've never tried either on Mac OS X. I've tried that briefly, it didn't seem to work, but will give it another look. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Co

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Running "freeze" on non-framework Python/universal binary issues

2006-07-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
hello (for architecture i386): Mach-O executable i386 Kevin-Walzers-Computer:~/python24-fat/Tools/freeze kevin$ ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code

[Pythonmac-SIG] Running "freeze" on non-framework Python/universal binary issues

2006-07-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
c Any advice? (I'm trying "freeze" because py2app doesn't seem to play nicely with non-framework builds, and I have no clue how to fix it.) - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] appscript equivalent of launch?

2006-07-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
l right, so don't bother trying it. The > only way I can currently think of doing it is to use AS: > > import osax > osax.runscript('launch app "TextEdit"') > > > If anyone knows how to launch apps without them being sent the > customary run ev

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Installing NumPy

2006-07-16 Thread Kevin Walzer
27;: Permission denied > > > Any suggestion? > Try installing the universal build of Python 2.4.3 and rebuilding numpy. Simply moving binaries from 10.3 PPC to 10.4 Mactel won't work; they're not compatible. If you want to simply build numpy on your new machine with the Pytho

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and universal TkAqua

2006-07-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Kevin Wal

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and universal TkAqua

2006-07-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > >> I have been unable to build the "hello-tk" demo that ships with py2app >> if I am building against a "universal" build of T

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonw 2.3.5 error on OSX 10.3.9

2006-07-07 Thread Kevin Walzer
I'm not aware of a widely-distributed version of Python 2.3.5 that installs in /usr/local/bin. The most recent versions in widespread distribution are 2.4.1 and 2.4.3, just released as a "universal binary" build. Look at http://macpython.org/packages for download links. So where did y

[Pythonmac-SIG] Question about 2.5 beta

2006-07-07 Thread Kevin Walzer
same way that 2.4.3 does, then I'm assuming that it will rewrite my path and install a "python" stub script in /usr/local/bin that points to Python 2.5. That would be an undesirable result. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- V

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] build matplotlib on 10.3.9 without a bus error?

2006-07-07 Thread Kevin Walzer
# file containing your app's icons standalone=1, # make this app self contained. includeModules=['argvemulator', 'os'], # list of additional Modules to force in includePackages=[], # list of additional Packages to force in libs = [ '/L

[Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and universal TkAqua

2006-07-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
ypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting I have the universal build of Python 2.4.3 installed, and am using py2app 0.2.5 from the pythonmac.org/packages site. My build of TkAqua is version 8.4.12, built as a universal binary, running on 10.4.7 with Xcode 2.3. py2app seems to be cho

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] build matplotlib on 10.3.9 without a bus error?

2006-07-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
ion I'm starting on because it's more familiar to me, but if py2app can't handle it, then I will probably use wxPython. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://eni

[Pythonmac-SIG] py2app with X11/Tkinter app

2006-06-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
UI applications? A pkg installer, or wrap everything manually in an app bundle with a stub launcher (such as those created by Platypus)? - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Can't build 2.4.3 against X11 Tcl/Tk

2006-06-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Walzer wrote: > However, in light of what you've said, I've hacked the universal > setup.py with some code from the current 2.4.3 setup.py that hard-codes > some additional search paths for my specialized stuff (deriv

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Can't build 2.4.3 against X11 Tcl/Tk

2006-06-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
x/lib') add_dir_to_list(self.compiler.include_dirs, '/usr/local/tcl-tk-unix/include') I will report back if this works. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Can't build 2.4.3 against X11 Tcl/Tk

2006-06-17 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Jun 16, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > >> This is a new twist on an old problem. >> >> I'm trying to build a standard Unix version of Python (without >> - -enable-frame

[Pythonmac-SIG] Can't build 2.4.3 against X11 Tcl/Tk

2006-06-16 Thread Kevin Walzer
I want this version to link against the universal X11 build of Tcl/Tk I have installed. Any advice? - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG w

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] tkinter and tcl console window

2006-05-19 Thread Kevin Walzer
a bit later, after a couple of other projects I'm working on are complete. But some of these changes would be so extensive (adding Tile, for instance, which would also improve the L&F on Windows) that I anticipate getting them rolled back into the main Python tree would be hard: it woul

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] tkinter and tcl console window

2006-05-19 Thread Kevin Walzer
a solution though. > Re: the Aqua Tk FAQ--are you referring to http://wiki.tcl.tk/12987? There's a reference there to "console show," but not "console hide." I'll update that later today--thanks for pointing it out. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kev

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Universal installation of Tcl/Tk Aqua--for Tkinter developers

2006-04-28 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > >> I've put together a universal installation package of the Tcl/Tk Aqua >> frameworks, based on Tcl/Tk 8.4.13. This package should work with the &g

[Pythonmac-SIG] Universal installation of Tcl/Tk Aqua--for Tkinter developers

2006-04-28 Thread Kevin Walzer
ge at http://tk-components.sourceforge.net/installer/. Be sure to look for the "Aqua" package--there is also a universal build of Tcl/Tk for X11 at the site, which will probably be less useful. Thanks. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] /Applications/MacPython 2.4/Extras/Tools missing from Universal build?

2006-04-28 Thread Kevin Walzer
? That was removed from the distribution. Idle, BuildApplet, and the demos are all that's left. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEUh2cr

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Universal build of Tcl/Tk: 2 Pythonic questions

2006-04-21 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Walzer wrote: > 1. In preparing my "universal build" of Tcl/Tk for upload to the > Pythonmac package site, I just realized that it is from a CVS HEAD > tarball that's a couple of weeks old--which means that it's

[Pythonmac-SIG] Universal build of Tcl/Tk: 2 Pythonic questions

2006-04-21 Thread Kevin Walzer
line 287, in load self.archs = self.load_fat(fat, fh) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py2app/macholib/MachO.py", line 273, in load_fat raise ValueError, "got unrecognized magic of %08x" % (header.magic, MH_MAGIC, MH_CIGA

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macho_standalone progress: how to call -archs from command line?

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Walzer wrote: > >>> I think I'm on the right track here, because when I hard-code the ppc >>> architecture in the __init__ def above, macho_standalone works. >>> >>>def __init__(self, base, archs=

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macho_standalone progress: how to call -archs from command line?

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
=None, executable_path=None): I finally hard-coded the archs in MachOStandalone.py (archs=['ppc', 'i386]. That got me over the initial error message, but it seems like an ugly hack. If anyone can suggest a better alternative, I'd appreciate it. Regards, Kevin - -- Kevin Walz

[Pythonmac-SIG] Latest universal build is 404

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
/Universal-MacPython-2.4.3-2006-04-07.dmg This comes up (today, at least) as a 404. Is there another place to get it? - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http:/

[Pythonmac-SIG] macho_standalone progress: how to call -archs from command line?

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
h=None): So what I need to do is find the correct magic to get the command-line args invoked properly. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - h

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fixing the documentation...

2006-04-19 Thread Kevin Walzer
(I used to use in Tcl/Tk apps by exec'ing 'python -c "from Carbon.AH...") and Aquamacs still loads its help docs this way. A Tkinter app I'm developing will also use this. What's the format for documentation? Who should it be sent to? - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code h

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Someone had PIL trouble on i386 10.4.6 Python 2.4 IIRC--I succeeded this evening

2006-04-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
s) something that others would find useful? I'm putting together one for my own purposes and would be glad to contribute it (or post a download link) when it's ready. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www.kevin-walzer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin)

[Pythonmac-SIG] py2app/macho_standalone issue?

2006-04-16 Thread Kevin Walzer
neApp files = MachOStandalone(path).run() TypeError: __init__() takes at least 3 arguments (2 given) Not sure how to troubleshoot this. The documentation says that the app bundle name is the only required argument, so I don't know what else to add. - -- Kevin Walzer Poetic Code http://www

[Pythonmac-SIG] Would bundlebuilder work "universally?"

2006-03-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I know py2app doesn't support universal builds right now...would bundlebuilder? - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-software.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG

[Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython & "universal" Python

2006-03-03 Thread Kevin Walzer
is there a "universal" build of wxPython in the works? - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-software.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.or

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] framework on Intel

2006-02-28 Thread Kevin Walzer
ing for undefined symbols may be affected) (No such file or directory, errno = 2) This looks weird. Possibly a problem on my system only? OS X 10.4.5, XCode 2.2. - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-software.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Co

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] framework on Intel

2006-02-26 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> >>> You could use the tree at htt

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] framework on Intel

2006-02-26 Thread Kevin Walzer
hon -o python.exe \ Modules/python.o \ -ldl /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _PyMac_Error _Py_Main collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [python.exe] Error 1 Any ideas? - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-software.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

[Pythonmac-SIG] Tcl/Tk universal binary

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Walzer
hanks, Kevin - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-software.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD+5vIJmdQs+6YVcoRAnmkAKCGn7dcQmjetdYNZtm2KPfMsSKS3ACeNS5S QU8w3vy+eVxKgcUGx/

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Free Download

2006-02-14 Thread Kevin Walzer
t program are you using? - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-software.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD8dbGJmdQs+6YVcoRAnV6AJ9mIpuhQSv6UaFRMn+3Ro6UOxbgDACeNpLS X7qAOef

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Debugger

2006-02-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
in. PythonIDE does not as far as I can tell. And PythonIDE is about to go to the bit bucket, once the universal build of MacPython is released. - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-software.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuP

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-10 Thread Kevin Walzer
e relevant. Not to recommend ActivePython itself, as its licensing is more restrictive than the build that will result from this discussion, but it is a self-contained, easily-installed, well-documented, and up-to-date bundle of Python and packages. - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-09 Thread Kevin Walzer
nical support we are getting from the experts such as Bob, for instance in terms of building universal binaries, is getting the most essential daily tasks done; but this isn't the same as having a leadership focus to actually make strategic decisions about Python on the Mac platform. I mention this

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-09 Thread Kevin Walzer
, and how do we explain that to people? > Another example of the surface complexity of the MacPython > infrastructure. > "pythonw" invokes GUI applications, "python" invokes console applications. When installing an extension, I don't type "pythonw setup.py in

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

2006-02-09 Thread Kevin Walzer
IDLE, as its dependencies (tkinter) come by default on the Mac. Using py2app or its variants would be overkill here. Will the applet still be available as a packaging model, deprecated, or obsoleted by the changes that are coming? - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Hartman wrote: > > There are a lot of programming environments on the Mac besides > Applescript that work from the GUI without any need to delve. Runtime > Revolution and Breve are two examples that come to mind immediately. I'm > thinking, fo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
tform present to learning Python that are not also present on other platforms? - -- Cheers, Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software - "Tame the Terminal" http://www.wordtech-software.com sw at wordtech-software.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Da

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problem with applets on MacPython

2006-01-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
the new version: it seems even more slick than before. Not sure about how stable it is. Komodo (commercial IDE from ActiveState) is now available on OS X, has excellent Python support, runs natively (e.g. no X11), and is a real bargain (the personal/non-commercial version is around $30 USD). -

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