using the
"-mmacosx-version-min=10.4." This is using a custom build of Python
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error -600
1/22/08 9:28:56 AM Python Launcher[53692] Exit status: -600
1/22/08 9:28:56 AM com.apple.launchd[118]
([0x0-0x434434].org.python.PythonLauncher[53692]) Stray process with
PGID equal to this dead job: PID 53694 PPID 1 Terminal
Hope someone can look into this,
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sys.exit()
And then bind it like thus:
self.protocol('WM_DELETE_WINDOW', self.shutDown)
self.bind('', lambda event: self.shutDown())
self.bind('', lambda event: self.shutDown())
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> before actually installing Leo.
AFAIK, you should be able to simply download Leo and run "python
leo.py." It's a Python-Tk-based application, and OS X (10.4 and 10.5)
comes with both. Have you tried this?
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> I'm not sure what is causing Python to barf here. PIL is supposed to be
> able to create valid Tkinter photo objects, so I don't think the issue
> is with Tk not recognizing the icns format. Any suggestions?
>
>
To answer my own que
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files, but that seems too haphazard. AppleScript also lists an API
for finding icons, but it's not implemented.
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I've assembled some updated files for the py2app recipe for PyQt 4
(sip.py) as well as an example file and setup.py. Where should these be
submitted? Is Bob Ippolito still doing development work on py2app or has
someone else taken over maintenance?
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observed any performance problems with Python/Tkinter 8.5.
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this kind of behavior?
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It's highly unlikely that bugs in 8.4.7 will be fixed at this point, if
they haven't been fixed already.
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ideas on where the problem is, who to notify, etc.?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
Are you using the built-in Tk that comes with OS X? It's ancient (8.4.7
on Tiger, and not updated for Leopard). Try installing a more recent
version, such as 8.4.16, from ActiveState and see if that solves the
p
pp on 10.5 run on 10.4 if all the frameworks were originally
build on 10.4? Does py2app introduce any kind of additional compilation
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demo with illustrations of the various
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won't object to package installers--it's pretty standard for large,
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> alone, so I have nobody to ask or even look over the shoulder of to
> see how its all set up.
I hope these answers are helpful. A complete introduction to Python is
beyond what I can provide, but there are lots of resources out there,
and Python should be a sn
e for Python is available at http://python.org, and the
official source package should build a framework install just fine on OS
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bigger leap to
nib files).
Any advice is appreciated.
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anyone really expect Adobe to port Photoshop or Microsoft to port Office
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A couple of questions:
1. Will applications that are 32 bit have any problems running under
Leopard?
2. Would Python have to be specifically compiled as 64-bit to support
PyObjC, or would 32-bit Python be OK?
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self.status.set('Ready')
then in another function, I can call this:
self.status.set('Process terminated')
and the value of the label widget will be updated. Was this
functionality hard to manage or missing in Objective-C/Cocoa before the
"Cocoa Bin
) form. Is this a feasible
approach, or does using PyObjC require adopting more of an "Objective-C"
mindset, designing the entire app from the top down to use
NS*-datatypes? That's a lot more work and I might as well learn
Objective-C and just use that.
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because it supports non-blocking output: subprocess does
not, at least not without some additional hacks. I'm glad it will still
be around for a while.
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Christopher Barker wrote:
> 1) is there a point-and-click and/or drag-and-drop way to create *.dmgs?
There are lots of freeware and shareware apps that do this--FreeDMG is a
good one. There are also command-line wrappers for hdiutils. Just google.
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>
> In addition to putting together some updates for the official MacPython
> documentation (still in progress, but to be submitted to the tracker
> soon), I also want to do some updates to the MacPython wiki, now hosted
> at http://wiki.python.
;s any particular problem with 8.4.10--I never had
any problems with IDLE crashing with a Python 2.4.x/Tk 8.4.10
combination. Tk 8.4.10 is most likely PPC-only; could there be some
obscure conflict between the universal Python tkinter.so and a PP
Thanks for the help! I'll fold these suggestions in to the new docs and
submit them to the tracker shortly.
Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 6 Apr, 2007, at 0:11, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>
>> I've taken some time to prepare a draft update to section 1 of the
>> MacPytho
ny of these
applications, I would appreciate it:
Drawbot (is it current?)
RegExPlor
RestEdit
TomatoTorrent: Looks current, but what's the difference between this and
BitTorrent? Isn't there an official Mac build written with one of the
standard Mac GUI toolkits? (Sorry, not a BitT
I've taken some time to prepare a draft update to section 1 of the
MacPython documentation that ships with the standard Python 2.5
distribution: the anchor link for this is
file:///Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/Resources/English.lproj/Documentation/mac/using.html.
The current
otes of stuff to update. Can't help with the Carbon bits, alas,
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would
anyone mind if I got started? A lot of this stuff doesn't appear to have
been touched for three or four years.
Any thoughts about what is most pressing? I have my own interests, and
I'm not qualified to edit everything, but I'm open to suggestions.
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ownload at:
>
> http://appscript.sourceforge.net/download.html
>
> Enjoy!
>
> has
> --http://appscript.sourceforge.net
> http://rb-appscript.rubyforge.org
> http://appscript.sourceforge.net/objc-appscript.html
has,
I'm confused--how is this
ly want to figure it out, here's the documentation:
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> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/CoreFoundation/Conceptual/CFBundles/Concepts/BundleAnatomy.html
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Use Python 2.5. I had no problems getting it to link against a more
recent build of Tcl/Tk Aqua--I think it does so by default and look at
the Apple-installed version only as a fallback.
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ain app's application bundle itself?
Perhaps it's a path issue, i.e. 'open' can't find the app to open. If
so, you may need to do some work to get a full path to the help app,
then launch it (i.e., os.system('open -a /path/to/myapp.app') ).
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ist who have helped me greatly with
improving my Python and Tkinter chops, including Ronald Oussoren, Bop
Ippolito, and Russell Owen.
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>
What does this mean? Does MacPython 2.5 now install a universal build of
the Tcl/Tk frameworks in /Library/Frameworks?
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You could just add the icon file to the app bundle after py2app is done
running, and edit info.plist if necessary with the updated icon name.
Kind of a hack, but this has worked for me.
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eenshots in the pylocate pages were taken under OS X.
Hope these prove useful to others, as starting points for your own work
if nothing else. Corrections and improvements are of course invited;
it's a wiki!
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which is obsolete.
The old PythonIDE and PackageManager were built using these frameworks
IIRC.
I hope EasyDialogs remains in Python, however (I have one application
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>>
>> I'm trying to build a framework Python 2.5 that installs to a
>> non-standard location (/usr/local/python-unix-framework). The reason I&
stead of the default? And why doesn't Python pick up the
./configure flags correctly anyway?
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I had a similar question a few weeks ago:
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>>>
>>> The
the built-in freeze tool.
> I've never tried either on Mac OS X.
I've tried that briefly, it didn't seem to work, but will give it
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Any advice?
(I'm trying "freeze" because py2app doesn't seem to play nicely with
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> only way I can currently think of doing it is to use AS:
>
> import osax
> osax.runscript('launch app "TextEdit"')
>
>
> If anyone knows how to launch apps without them being sent the
> customary run ev
27;: Permission denied
>
>
> Any suggestion?
>
Try installing the universal build of Python 2.4.3 and rebuilding numpy.
Simply moving binaries from 10.3 PPC to 10.4 Mactel won't work;
they're not compatible. If you want to simply build numpy on your new
machine with the Pytho
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> On Jul 6, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
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>> I have been unable to build the "hello-tk" demo that ships with py2app
>> if I am building against a "universal" build of T
I'm not aware of a widely-distributed version of Python 2.3.5 that
installs in /usr/local/bin. The most recent versions in widespread
distribution are 2.4.1 and 2.4.3, just released as a "universal binary"
build. Look at http://macpython.org/packages for download links.
So where did y
same way that 2.4.3 does, then
I'm assuming that it will rewrite my path and install a "python" stub
script in /usr/local/bin that points to Python 2.5. That would be an
undesirable result.
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# file containing your app's icons
standalone=1, # make this app self contained.
includeModules=['argvemulator', 'os'], # list of additional Modules
to force in
includePackages=[], # list of additional Packages to force in
libs = [
'/L
ypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
I have the universal build of Python 2.4.3 installed, and am using
py2app 0.2.5 from the pythonmac.org/packages site. My build of TkAqua is
version 8.4.12, built as a universal binary, running on 10.4.7 with
Xcode 2.3.
py2app seems to be cho
ion I'm starting on because
it's more familiar to me, but if py2app can't handle it, then I will
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UI applications? A
pkg installer, or wrap everything manually in an app bundle with a stub
launcher (such as those created by Platypus)?
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> However, in light of what you've said, I've hacked the universal
> setup.py with some code from the current 2.4.3 setup.py that hard-codes
> some additional search paths for my specialized stuff (deriv
x/lib')
add_dir_to_list(self.compiler.include_dirs,
'/usr/local/tcl-tk-unix/include')
I will report back if this works.
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> On Jun 16, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
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>> This is a new twist on an old problem.
>>
>> I'm trying to build a standard Unix version of Python (without
>> - -enable-frame
I want this version to link against the universal X11 build
of Tcl/Tk I have installed.
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bit later, after a couple of other projects I'm working on are complete.
But some of these changes would be so extensive (adding Tile, for
instance, which would also improve the L&F on Windows) that I anticipate
getting them rolled back into the main Python tree would be hard: it
woul
a solution though.
>
Re: the Aqua Tk FAQ--are you referring to http://wiki.tcl.tk/12987?
There's a reference there to "console show," but not "console hide."
I'll update that later today--thanks for pointing it out.
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> On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
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>> I've put together a universal installation package of the Tcl/Tk Aqua
>> frameworks, based on Tcl/Tk 8.4.13. This package should work with the
&g
ge at
http://tk-components.sourceforge.net/installer/.
Be sure to look for the "Aqua" package--there is also a universal build
of Tcl/Tk for X11 at the site, which will probably be less useful.
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> 1. In preparing my "universal build" of Tcl/Tk for upload to the
> Pythonmac package site, I just realized that it is from a CVS HEAD
> tarball that's a couple of weeks old--which means that it's
line 287, in load
self.archs = self.load_fat(fat, fh)
File
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py2app/macholib/MachO.py",
line 273, in load_fat
raise ValueError, "got unrecognized magic of %08x" % (header.magic,
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>>> I think I'm on the right track here, because when I hard-code the ppc
>>> architecture in the __init__ def above, macho_standalone works.
>>>
>>>def __init__(self, base, archs=
=None, executable_path=None):
I finally hard-coded the archs in MachOStandalone.py (archs=['ppc',
'i386]. That got me over the initial error message, but it seems like an
ugly hack. If anyone can suggest a better alternative, I'd appreciate it.
Regards,
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This comes up (today, at least) as a 404. Is there another place to get it?
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So what I need to do is find the correct magic to get the command-line
args invoked properly. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
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(I used to use in Tcl/Tk apps by exec'ing 'python -c
"from Carbon.AH...") and Aquamacs still loads its help docs this way. A
Tkinter app I'm developing will also use this.
What's the format for documentation? Who should it be sent to?
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s) something that
others would find useful? I'm putting together one for my own purposes
and would be glad to contribute it (or post a download link) when it's
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files = MachOStandalone(path).run()
TypeError: __init__() takes at least 3 arguments (2 given)
Not sure how to troubleshoot this. The documentation says that the app
bundle name is the only required argument, so I don't know what else to add.
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I know py2app doesn't support universal builds right now...would
bundlebuilder?
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is there a "universal" build of
wxPython in the works?
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ing for undefined symbols may be affected) (No such file or
directory, errno = 2)
This looks weird. Possibly a problem on my system only?
OS X 10.4.5, XCode 2.2.
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> On Feb 26, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
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/usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
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collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [python.exe] Error 1
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hanks,
Kevin
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t program are you using?
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in. PythonIDE does not as far
as I can tell. And PythonIDE is about to go to the bit bucket, once the
universal build of MacPython is released.
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relevant. Not to recommend ActivePython itself, as its licensing is more
restrictive than the build that will result from this discussion, but it
is a self-contained, easily-installed, well-documented, and up-to-date
bundle of Python and packages.
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nical support we are getting from the experts such as Bob, for
instance in terms of building universal binaries, is getting the most
essential daily tasks done; but this isn't the same as having a
leadership focus to actually make strategic decisions about Python on
the Mac platform. I mention this
, and how do we explain that to people?
> Another example of the surface complexity of the MacPython
> infrastructure.
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"pythonw" invokes GUI applications, "python" invokes console
applications. When installing an extension, I don't type "pythonw
setup.py in
IDLE, as its
dependencies (tkinter) come by default on the Mac. Using py2app or its
variants would be overkill here.
Will the applet still be available as a packaging model, deprecated, or
obsoleted by the changes that are coming?
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> There are a lot of programming environments on the Mac besides
> Applescript that work from the GUI without any need to delve. Runtime
> Revolution and Breve are two examples that come to mind immediately. I'm
> thinking, fo
tform present to learning Python that are not
also present on other platforms?
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the new version: it seems even more slick than before.
Not sure about how stable it is.
Komodo (commercial IDE from ActiveState) is now available on OS X, has
excellent Python support, runs natively (e.g. no X11), and is a real
bargain (the personal/non-commercial version is around $30 USD).
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