Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Marco Hugentobler
Hi Nathan Personally I find the core plugin concept unnecessary. If it's core it shouldn't be a plugin and should just be part of the main program. It can still be Python that is fine however users shouldn't have to turn them on and off they should just be there and be transparent. I think

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 12/08/2013 09:13, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I think the plugin concept is highly usefull for both core/noncore, C++ Hi all. I agree the plugin architecture is useful. IMHO the issue is mainly a matter of hiding too much detail for the

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Nathan Woodrow
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Marco Hugentobler marco.hugentob...@sourcepole.ch wrote: Plugins are a sophisticated way of keeping things lean and separated. I have no issue with none core plugins, in fact that is something I always promote as a powerful feature. Core however plugins are a

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Anita Graser
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Victor Olaya vola...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't very fond of this idea because or course I like the SEXTANTE branding itself, but in terms of integration I now think it is better. For a user that wants to do some analysis, keeping the SEXTANTE name means that

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Marco Hugentobler marco.hugentob...@sourcepole.ch wrote: Plugins are a sophisticated way of keeping things lean and separated. I have no issue with none core plugins, in fact

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Anita Graser anitagra...@gmx.at wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Victor Olaya vola...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't very fond of this idea because or course I like the SEXTANTE branding itself, but in terms of integration I now think it is better.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Nathan Woodrow
If you are loading them by default it doesn't make sense to keep them as a plugins better to just make them core. It doesn't really matter at the moment for 2.0 anyway but I'll chat about it more at the HF On 12/08/2013 6:02 PM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote: Hi On Mon, Aug 12, 2013

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 12/08/2013 10:10, Tim Sutton ha scritto: Yes I should have asked this too - personally I prefer we do it in a future version. Maybe its something we should keep for V3? IMHO renaming sextante after people got used to it will introduce more and

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 12/08/2013 10:10, Tim Sutton ha scritto: Yes I should have asked this too - personally I prefer we do it in a future version. Maybe its something we should

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Victor Olaya
I do not think there is too much risk of breaking things, it shouldn't be that complex. Also, it's a plugin (core or not), so we can later publish a newer version if something is broken, and let people update it. It's not going to break any other code, since nothing (except plugins based on

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-12 Thread Jonathan Moules
On 12 August 2013 09:33, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 12/08/2013 10:10, Tim Sutton ha scritto: Yes I should have asked this too - personally I prefer we do it in a future version. Maybe its something we should keep for V3?

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-11 Thread Alex Mandel
So is the proposal to change Analysis to Processing? I don't think there's a reason to remove the SEXTANTE branding as SEXTANTE does exist outside a QGIS context, ftools is another story since that only exists in QGIS. I'm split on GDAL Tools, since it is good to make sure users know what

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-11 Thread Victor Olaya
I wasn't very fond of this idea because or course I like the SEXTANTE branding itself, but in terms of integration I now think it is better. For a user that wants to do some analysis, keeping the SEXTANTE name means that the user has to know that SEXTANTE is an analysis platform, instead of just

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-11 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.comwrote: Hi Victor, On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Victor Olaya vola...@gmail.com wrote: Hi After much thinking and considering some suggestions, I think it would be a good idea to remove the SEXTANTE branding, and

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-11 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.comwrote: So is the proposal to change Analysis to Processing? I don't think there's a reason to remove the SEXTANTE branding as SEXTANTE does exist outside a QGIS context, ftools is another story since that only exists

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-11 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Showing SEXTANTE, GDAL Tools, fTools in the menu is the implementation model leaking into the UI. The users don't care how it's implemented as long as it works. - Nathan On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote: Hi On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Alex Mandel

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-11 Thread Alex Mandel
Well there's an interesting dilemma, I mostly agree that core plugins don't need to be listed in the plugin manager.. except when one wants to disable them to get faster load times of QGIS, or to hide those features. Maybe they should be renamed to Core Vector Tools, Core Raster Tools, Core

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-10 Thread MORREALE Jean Roc
+1 here for dropping the SEXTANTE name for the same reason we now have a Vector menu instead of fTools. I would vote for a processing menu as sextante goes beyond analysis ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-10 Thread Nathan Woodrow
+1 from me too. Personally I find the core plugin concept unnecessary. If it's core it shouldn't be a plugin and should just be part of the main program. It can still be Python that is fine however users shouldn't have to turn them on and off they should just be there and be transparent. IMO we

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-10 Thread Alexander Bruy
+1 from me to renaming. Maybe we can use Processing or GeoProcessing as new name. 2013/8/10 Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com: +1 from me too. Personally I find the core plugin concept unnecessary. If it's core it shouldn't be a plugin and should just be part of the main program. It can

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-10 Thread Saber Razmjooei
+1 for changing name. I like GRASS menus, it has all the analytical modules under vector and raster menu. Can similar thing be done with SEXTANTE? Cheers Saber On 2013-08-10 12:23, Alexander Bruy wrote: +1 from me to renaming. Maybe we can use Processing or GeoProcessing as new name.

[Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-09 Thread Victor Olaya
Hi After much thinking and considering some suggestions, I think it would be a good idea to remove the SEXTANTE branding, and just have everything with a more descriptive name, such as geoanalysis, processing, or something like that. In the long-term, that will help to integrate the analysis

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-09 Thread Filipe Dias
Hi, Many people refer to Vector and Raster tools as Ftools and GDAL. Sextante, in my opinion, is not different, so I dont see why we should change anything. The Sextante menu is called Analysis which makes sense. And Sextante toolbox seems to be a good name, as well as Sextante Modeler.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-09 Thread Antonio Locandro
...@gmail.com To: vola...@gmail.com CC: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE Hi,Many people refer to Vector and Raster tools as Ftools and GDAL. Sextante, in my opinion, is not different, so I dont see why we should change anything. The Sextante menu is called

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-09 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi Victor, On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Victor Olaya vola...@gmail.com wrote: Hi After much thinking and considering some suggestions, I think it would be a good idea to remove the SEXTANTE branding, and just have everything with a more descriptive name, such as geoanalysis,

Re: [Qgis-developer] Renaming SEXTANTE

2013-08-09 Thread Nyall Dawson
Agreed (to the doesn't make much sense to users). +1 from me for this much needed approach to the naming of core plugins. Concerning branding (and with no disrespect to any third-party projects brought into core), the brand is not SEXTANTE, not fTools, not GDALTools... the brand is QGIS.