Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-06-02 Thread Giovanni Manghi
Giovanni could you do a triage of the blocker issue queue - it seems like some could be removed (e.g. http://hub.qgis.org/issues/7619 could be closed?). I checked the queue and cleaned it as much as possible. There is a small list of tickets that probably can be closed(*), but the other 71

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-06-02 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi Thanks very much Giovanni. We are holding a PSC meeting tomorrow to plan the release strategy and your revisions will come in handy for that. Regards Tim On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt wrote: Giovanni could you do a triage of the blocker issue

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-06-02 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Glad to hear you guys will meet on the 2.0 release. In the hope it can help your meeting, I'd like to share my 2 cents as a QGIS evangelist in Southeast Asia. Note, I'm running on QGIS master, so the argument below isn't out of self-interest ;o) In the beginning of March 2013, Tim announced a

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-06-02 Thread Nathan Woodrow
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.comwrote: I feel that for the SIP upgrade to be considered so late in the release process, it should be considered within _reasonable confines_ to avoid un-managed, harmful delays. Ideally, something along the lines of merged

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-06-02 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
So what's the hard deadline for SIP, this coming weekend? On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.comwrote: I feel that for the SIP upgrade to be considered so late in the release process,

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-30 Thread Luca Manganelli
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Sandro Santilli s...@keybit.net wrote: Luca, what about taking the responsibility to maintain a stable branch ? I'd also love to see a 1.8.1 coming out :) It is not a bad idea. I'm pretty sure that if QGIS 2.0 will be out soon, it never will be used in

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 30/05/2013 08:02, Luca Manganelli ha scritto: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Sandro Santilli s...@keybit.net mailto:s...@keybit.net wrote: Luca, what about taking the responsibility to maintain a stable branch ? I'd also love to

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Marco Hugentobler
Hi I agree the release needs to be delayed, but not indefinitely. My impression until now was that the feature freeze was interpreted in a very broad sense. Maybe we could have another period with only bug fixes (so no api improvements or new features coming as usability fixes). Regards,

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Werner Macho
Hi! +1 For Marco and Tim Means: two last features should go into the Release : 1. Plugin Manager (already waiting to be merged) 2. SIPv2 (status unknown but would definitely easen the life for the next years if it would be in 2.0) And we should really go into deep feature freeze right now

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:29:13PM +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: Hi On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Sandro Santilli s...@keybit.net wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:41:24PM +0100, Filipe Dias wrote: I agree with Giovanni. As an end user I'd rather wait a few more months than get an

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Régis Haubourg
Sandro Santilli-2 wrote That's why maintainance releases are important. We're only 1 blocker away from a 1.7.5, and 10 blockers away from 1.8.1. --strk; ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@.osgeo

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/05/2013 17:17, Régis Haubourg ha scritto: I totally agree. We've been pushing many new features and changing API is a great step. 2.x branch will be the start for complete switch from arcgis or Mapinfo in some administrations here. We will

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Radim Blazek
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Werner Macho werner.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Means: two last features should go into the Release : 1. Plugin Manager (already waiting to be merged) OK. 2. SIPv2 (status unknown but would definitely easen the life for the next years if it would be in 2.0) The

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/05/2013 18:52, Radim Blazek ha scritto: I agree, another 3 weeks to fix blockers and release by the end of June. The next possible release date IMO is the end of September (2 months of holidays + one month to consolidate again). Agreed. If

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Luca Manganelli
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Hi all. What is a blocker? something that prevents users from upgrading to the newer version. This is why we (in a public organization) are still using 1.7.4, due to a stupid blocker (the famous postgres duplicate

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-29 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 08:46:42PM +0200, Luca Manganelli wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Hi all. What is a blocker? something that prevents users from upgrading to the newer version. This is why we (in a public organization) are

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Giovanni Manghi
Hi, Undoubtedly we will have to release with blockers please no :) It would be a huge blow to QGIS reputation as there are actually blockers that make QGIS really unusable for any real life job. cheers! -- Giovanni -- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Filipe Dias
I agree with Giovanni. As an end user I'd rather wait a few more months than get an imcomplete version of QGIS 2.0. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt wrote: Hi, Undoubtedly we will have to release with blockers please no :) It would be a huge

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:41:24PM +0100, Filipe Dias wrote: I agree with Giovanni. As an end user I'd rather wait a few more months than get an imcomplete version of QGIS 2.0. +1 Also note that there are currently 10 crasher tickets filed against 1.8.0, and even 1 against 1.7.4. --strk; On

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Antonio Locandro
GPS para Centro America, Asia o Sur America Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 17:48:28 +0200 From: s...@keybit.net To: filipesd...@gmail.com CC: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org; giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:41:24PM +0100

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Sandro Santilli s...@keybit.net wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:41:24PM +0100, Filipe Dias wrote: I agree with Giovanni. As an end user I'd rather wait a few more months than get an imcomplete version of QGIS 2.0. +1 Also note that there are currently

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Matthias Kuhn
For me there is mainly one thing (feature) is missing for QGIS 2.0: The upgrade to the new PyQt API (aka. SIP API V2) I would really not want to see a QGIS 2.0 without this update. I really hope, that this is going to be taken care of by someone. We could also look for sponsors to make this

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt wrote: Hi, Undoubtedly we will have to release with blockers please no :) It would be a huge blow to QGIS reputation as there are actually blockers that make QGIS really unusable for any real life job. ALL the

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch wrote: For me there is mainly one thing (feature) is missing for QGIS 2.0: The upgrade to the new PyQt API (aka. SIP API V2) I would really not want to see a QGIS 2.0 without this update. I really hope, that this is going

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, To me - if a feature worked in QGIS 1.8 but fails in 2.0 - esp. if we paid for its development in QGIS 1.8 - then it is also a blocker. How could I otherwise justify our expenses in QGIS to my boss? Well you know - we paid for this feature to be developed - but maybe with the next version it

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Giovanni Manghi
Hi Tim, ALL the blockers should make QGIS really unusuable, otherwise IMHO they shouldn't be blockers. Many of the items in the blocker list are indeed irritations but I think the blocker list needs to be aggressively pruned of items that aren't actually causing crashes / data corruption or

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt wrote: Hi Tim, ALL the blockers should make QGIS really unusuable, otherwise IMHO they shouldn't be blockers. Many of the items in the blocker list are indeed irritations but I think the blocker list needs to be

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Giovanni Manghi
Hi Tim, Giovanni could you do a triage of the blocker issue queue - it seems like some could be removed (e.g. http://hub.qgis.org/issues/7619 could be closed?). yes I can, but (full time) not until later *next* week as I'm Cape Verde to give an extensive QGIS training course. cheers!

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt wrote: Hi Tim, Giovanni could you do a triage of the blocker issue queue - it seems like some could be removed (e.g. http://hub.qgis.org/issues/7619 could be closed?). yes I can, but (full time) not until

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-28 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
As a first step, could we all individually go to the hub and review our blockers to possibly remove some blockers that are not crucial to a 2.0 release or dups of previous reports? That would facilitate Giovanni's job. Also, while ideally a product should be shipped regression-free, this needs to

[Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-27 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Hey all, So what is the current plans for once QGIS 2.0 is released. Are we planning on making minor point releases, or at least weekly builds on a different branch for the major platforms e.g 2.0.1. As 2.0 is going to be a massive release I have no doubt there might be things that pop up after

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-27 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 27/05/2013 12:41, Nathan Woodrow ha scritto: Hey all, So what is the current plans for once QGIS 2.0 is released. Are we planning on making minor point releases, or at least weekly builds on a different branch for the major platforms e.g

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-27 Thread Régis Haubourg
Hi Nathan, good top open this thread, you are right that bugfixing releases will probably be necessary. Concerning new features, I just point out that I will work and try to focus on improvements and new features described here [0] , if that helps to define roadmap versions: [0]

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-27 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 27/05/2013 13:04, Régis Haubourg ha scritto: Concerning new features, I just point out that I will work and try to focus on improvements and new features described here [0] , if that helps to define roadmap versions: [0]

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-27 Thread Giovanni Manghi
I see we have a lot of blockers, and new tickets are flocking in. and fixes would also need to be tested, and it is time consuming... ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.0 and beyond

2013-05-27 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 27/05/2013 12:41, Nathan Woodrow ha scritto: Hey all, So what is the current plans for once QGIS 2.0 is released. Are we planning on making minor point