subject:"\[Qgis\-user\] QGIS 3.20 Crash"

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-18 Thread Stefan Giese (WhereGroup)

the profile manager is now available in QGIS flagged as experimental 
Plugin. My colleague Dominik will also present it on the next QGIS Open 
Day (2021-10-29)


with the following features:

 * Create a new profile
 o Creates and initiates a new QGIS profile
 * Removing profile
 o Removes the currently marked profile
 * Copy profile
 o Copies profile into a new one with a name provided by the user
 * Rename profile
 o Renames the profile with a name provided by the user
 * Importing Datasources from one profile to another (Datasources are
   chosen by checking them in a TreeView where each source is displayed)
 * Removing Datasources from a profile
 o Removes the datasources from the chosen SOURCE profile
 * Importing bookmarks
 * Importing favourites
 * Importing plugins
 * Importing functions
 * Importing models & scripts
 * Importing style & label settings
 * Importing QGIS UI settings (f.e. hidden toolbar items)

code: https://github.com/dszillWG/profile-manager

Am 06.10.2021 um 17:52 schrieb Raymond Nijssen:


On 06-10-2021 17:26, Etienne Trimaille wrote:

Hi Raymond and others,

A plugin is very often the culprit, which is installed by the user :) 



Hi Etienne and others,

QGIS itself is also installed by the user :)
But it doesn't mean the user is to blame for bugs in it, or can be 
expected to fix them. Same counts for plugins.


Maybe instead of making new profiles, we can have functions for fixing 
an existing profile?


- Turn off all plugins
- Remove all plugins
- Remove all custom expressions
- Remove startup script
- ...

In a usual suspect kind of order?

Maybe Stefan's Profile Manager will do it?

Cheers,
Raymond
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Charles Dixon-Paver

Probably more of a developer list issue, but we already have commandline
options for starting qgis without plugins, the plugin manager for disabling
plugins, etc etc. The trouble is trying to send people the instructions for
this. Settings >> User Profiles >> New is a lot easier, and I expect most
experienced users try that route first anyway.

It would be nice to get more info on problematic plugins, user scripts, and
other issues so that the user experience is improved, but QGIS doesn't
really collect user data so how would that be done? Personally I think QGIS
should probably start looking into some sort of opt-in telemetry that is
ethical but which truly does improve the user experience. There may even be
a QEP for it.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 17:52, Raymond Nijssen  wrote:

>
> On 06-10-2021 17:26, Etienne Trimaille wrote:
> > Hi Raymond and others,
> >
> > A plugin is very often the culprit, which is installed by the user :)
>
>
> Hi Etienne and others,
>
> QGIS itself is also installed by the user :)
> But it doesn't mean the user is to blame for bugs in it, or can be
> expected to fix them. Same counts for plugins.
>
> Maybe instead of making new profiles, we can have functions for fixing
> an existing profile?
>
> - Turn off all plugins
> - Remove all plugins
> - Remove all custom expressions
> - Remove startup script
> - ...
>
> In a usual suspect kind of order?
>
> Maybe Stefan's Profile Manager will do it?
>
> Cheers,
> Raymond
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Raymond Nijssen




On 06-10-2021 17:26, Etienne Trimaille wrote:

Hi Raymond and others,

A plugin is very often the culprit, which is installed by the user :) 



Hi Etienne and others,

QGIS itself is also installed by the user :)
But it doesn't mean the user is to blame for bugs in it, or can be 
expected to fix them. Same counts for plugins.


Maybe instead of making new profiles, we can have functions for fixing 
an existing profile?


- Turn off all plugins
- Remove all plugins
- Remove all custom expressions
- Remove startup script
- ...

In a usual suspect kind of order?

Maybe Stefan's Profile Manager will do it?

Cheers,
Raymond
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Etienne Trimaille

Hi Raymond and others,

Le mer. 6 oct. 2021 à 16:33, Raymond Nijssen  a
écrit :

>
> But profiles don't get broken by the users, they get broken by (bugs in)
> the software.
>

A plugin is very often the culprit, which is installed by the user :)
(plugin or custom python expressions, custom Python script, processing
script)
When I have some crashes, I just disable new plugins that I have recently
downloaded and check. It's sometimes enough.
So enable your previous plugins step by step.
Plugin source code is stored in the profile itself, but the profile is not
really "corrupted". There are just some Python code inside. By removing it,
it's alright.
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Stefan Giese (WhereGroup)


Hi Raymond,

thank's for sharing your thoughts on that!

At the moment we are working on a Profile Mananger Plugin which allows 
you to get things from one to another profile like database connections, 
plugins, expressions and so on. But a more generic solution would be 
great anyway!!


Best

Stefan

Am 06.10.2021 um 16:33 schrieb Raymond Nijssen:

Good question!

I'm seeing this 'try a new profile' solution more and more often. And 
it's a great way to figure out if QGIS is really broken, or that it's 
just a corrupt profile for some reason.


But profiles don't get broken by the users, they get broken by (bugs 
in) the software. And working with a new profile can be very 
inconvenient, cause plugins, configurations and links to recent 
projects/crs's/expressions/etc are missing.


Could we think of ways to:
- gather corrupt profiles and find bugs in it?
- identify plugins that (often) corrupt profiles?
- fix corrupt profiles?
- anything else?

Kind regards,
Raymond


On 06-10-2021 16:05, Martin Bittens wrote:

Yes, it worked. Using the new profile QGIS did not crash. But...

1.) How do I get all my settings and plug-ins from the previous 
profile into the new one?


2.) How do I get QGIS running always with the new profile when I 
start-up?  Do I need to delete the old profile?



Regards


Martin


Am 10/6/2021 um 10:36 AM schrieb Stefan Giese (WhereGroup):


Did you try it also with a new profile?

Just make a new prrofile and test it again: Menu->Settings->User 
Profiles->New Profile


If QGIS don't chrashes again, then your user profile is corrupt...

Am 06.10.2021 um 15:28 schrieb Martin Bittens:


Hello QGIS users.

Since a couple of days QGIS 3.20 crashes when I am closing the 
program. The following crash report appears:



Crash ID: 2bba35ac54ec3f66db08369439704d5a7beb5523 




Stack Trace

GDALDestroyDriver : dal::GDALRasterDriver::deregisterGDALDrivers : 
dal::Client::~Client : calc::DataStorageId::setId : ::operator() : 
__crt_seh_guarded_call::operator(), &, > : execute_onexit_table : 
calc::vs2CsfVs : calc::vs2CsfVs : LdrpCallInitRoutine : 
LdrShutdownProcess : RtlExitUserProcess : ExitProcessImplementation 
: exit_or_terminate_process : common_exit : BaseThreadInitThunk : 
RtlUserThreadStart :





QGIS Info
QGIS Version: 3.20.3-Odense
QGIS code revision: 495fbaec
Compiled against Qt: 5.15.2
Running against Qt: 5.15.2
Compiled against GDAL: 3.3.1
Running against GDAL: 3.3.1



System Info
CPU Type: x86_64
Kernel Type: winnt
Kernel Version: 10.0.19043



Any idea what is going wrong?


Regards


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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Martin Bittens


Great. Thanks a lot.


Martin


Am 10/6/2021 um 11:12 AM schrieb Stefan Giese (WhereGroup):


first go to Menu->Settings->User Profiles->open active profile folder

then go one folder up...you will see all the profiles. The profile.ini
shows your default profile which you can change

a profile folder looks like this one:

now you can copy things from one folder to the other...at the moment I
don't know a better way. We are working on a Profile manager plugin to
make this easier, which should be ready soon

Am 06.10.2021 um 16:05 schrieb Martin Bittens:


Yes, it worked. Using the new profile QGIS did not crash. But...

1.) How do I get all my settings and plug-ins from the previous
profile into the new one?

2.) How do I get QGIS running always with the new profile when I
start-up?  Do I need to delete the old profile?


Regards


Martin


Am 10/6/2021 um 10:36 AM schrieb Stefan Giese (WhereGroup):


Did you try it also with a new profile?

Just make a new prrofile and test it again: Menu->Settings->User
Profiles->New Profile

If QGIS don't chrashes again, then your user profile is corrupt...

Am 06.10.2021 um 15:28 schrieb Martin Bittens:


Hello QGIS users.

Since a couple of days QGIS 3.20 crashes when I am closing the
program. The following crash report appears:


Crash ID: 2bba35ac54ec3f66db08369439704d5a7beb5523



Stack Trace

GDALDestroyDriver : dal::GDALRasterDriver::deregisterGDALDrivers :
dal::Client::~Client : calc::DataStorageId::setId : ::operator() :
__crt_seh_guarded_call::operator(), &, > : execute_onexit_table :
calc::vs2CsfVs : calc::vs2CsfVs : LdrpCallInitRoutine :
LdrShutdownProcess : RtlExitUserProcess : ExitProcessImplementation
: exit_or_terminate_process : common_exit : BaseThreadInitThunk :
RtlUserThreadStart :




QGIS Info
QGIS Version: 3.20.3-Odense
QGIS code revision: 495fbaec
Compiled against Qt: 5.15.2
Running against Qt: 5.15.2
Compiled against GDAL: 3.3.1
Running against GDAL: 3.3.1



System Info
CPU Type: x86_64
Kernel Type: winnt
Kernel Version: 10.0.19043



Any idea what is going wrong?


Regards


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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Raymond Nijssen


Good question!

I'm seeing this 'try a new profile' solution more and more often. And 
it's a great way to figure out if QGIS is really broken, or that it's 
just a corrupt profile for some reason.


But profiles don't get broken by the users, they get broken by (bugs in) 
the software. And working with a new profile can be very inconvenient, 
cause plugins, configurations and links to recent 
projects/crs's/expressions/etc are missing.


Could we think of ways to:
- gather corrupt profiles and find bugs in it?
- identify plugins that (often) corrupt profiles?
- fix corrupt profiles?
- anything else?

Kind regards,
Raymond


On 06-10-2021 16:05, Martin Bittens wrote:

Yes, it worked. Using the new profile QGIS did not crash. But...

1.) How do I get all my settings and plug-ins from the previous profile 
into the new one?


2.) How do I get QGIS running always with the new profile when I 
start-up?  Do I need to delete the old profile?



Regards


Martin


Am 10/6/2021 um 10:36 AM schrieb Stefan Giese (WhereGroup):


Did you try it also with a new profile?

Just make a new prrofile and test it again: Menu->Settings->User 
Profiles->New Profile


If QGIS don't chrashes again, then your user profile is corrupt...

Am 06.10.2021 um 15:28 schrieb Martin Bittens:


Hello QGIS users.

Since a couple of days QGIS 3.20 crashes when I am closing the 
program. The following crash report appears:



Crash ID: 2bba35ac54ec3f66db08369439704d5a7beb5523 




Stack Trace

GDALDestroyDriver : dal::GDALRasterDriver::deregisterGDALDrivers : 
dal::Client::~Client : calc::DataStorageId::setId : ::operator() : 
__crt_seh_guarded_call::operator(), &, > : execute_onexit_table : 
calc::vs2CsfVs : calc::vs2CsfVs : LdrpCallInitRoutine : 
LdrShutdownProcess : RtlExitUserProcess : ExitProcessImplementation : 
exit_or_terminate_process : common_exit : BaseThreadInitThunk : 
RtlUserThreadStart :





QGIS Info
QGIS Version: 3.20.3-Odense
QGIS code revision: 495fbaec
Compiled against Qt: 5.15.2
Running against Qt: 5.15.2
Compiled against GDAL: 3.3.1
Running against GDAL: 3.3.1



System Info
CPU Type: x86_64
Kernel Type: winnt
Kernel Version: 10.0.19043



Any idea what is going wrong?


Regards


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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Stefan Giese (WhereGroup)


first go to Menu->Settings->User Profiles->open active profile folder

then go one folder up...you will see all the profiles. The profile.ini 
shows your default profile which you can change


a profile folder looks like this one:

now you can copy things from one folder to the other...at the moment I 
don't know a better way. We are working on a Profile manager plugin to 
make this easier, which should be ready soon


Am 06.10.2021 um 16:05 schrieb Martin Bittens:


Yes, it worked. Using the new profile QGIS did not crash. But...

1.) How do I get all my settings and plug-ins from the previous 
profile into the new one?


2.) How do I get QGIS running always with the new profile when I 
start-up?  Do I need to delete the old profile?



Regards


Martin


Am 10/6/2021 um 10:36 AM schrieb Stefan Giese (WhereGroup):


Did you try it also with a new profile?

Just make a new prrofile and test it again: Menu->Settings->User 
Profiles->New Profile


If QGIS don't chrashes again, then your user profile is corrupt...

Am 06.10.2021 um 15:28 schrieb Martin Bittens:


Hello QGIS users.

Since a couple of days QGIS 3.20 crashes when I am closing the 
program. The following crash report appears:



Crash ID: 2bba35ac54ec3f66db08369439704d5a7beb5523 




Stack Trace

GDALDestroyDriver : dal::GDALRasterDriver::deregisterGDALDrivers : 
dal::Client::~Client : calc::DataStorageId::setId : ::operator() : 
__crt_seh_guarded_call::operator(), &, > : execute_onexit_table : 
calc::vs2CsfVs : calc::vs2CsfVs : LdrpCallInitRoutine : 
LdrShutdownProcess : RtlExitUserProcess : ExitProcessImplementation 
: exit_or_terminate_process : common_exit : BaseThreadInitThunk : 
RtlUserThreadStart :





QGIS Info
QGIS Version: 3.20.3-Odense
QGIS code revision: 495fbaec
Compiled against Qt: 5.15.2
Running against Qt: 5.15.2
Compiled against GDAL: 3.3.1
Running against GDAL: 3.3.1



System Info
CPU Type: x86_64
Kernel Type: winnt
Kernel Version: 10.0.19043



Any idea what is going wrong?


Regards


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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Martin Bittens


Yes, it worked. Using the new profile QGIS did not crash. But...

1.) How do I get all my settings and plug-ins from the previous profile
into the new one?

2.) How do I get QGIS running always with the new profile when I
start-up?  Do I need to delete the old profile?


Regards


Martin


Am 10/6/2021 um 10:36 AM schrieb Stefan Giese (WhereGroup):


Did you try it also with a new profile?

Just make a new prrofile and test it again: Menu->Settings->User
Profiles->New Profile

If QGIS don't chrashes again, then your user profile is corrupt...

Am 06.10.2021 um 15:28 schrieb Martin Bittens:


Hello QGIS users.

Since a couple of days QGIS 3.20 crashes when I am closing the
program. The following crash report appears:


Crash ID: 2bba35ac54ec3f66db08369439704d5a7beb5523



Stack Trace

GDALDestroyDriver : dal::GDALRasterDriver::deregisterGDALDrivers :
dal::Client::~Client : calc::DataStorageId::setId : ::operator() :
__crt_seh_guarded_call::operator(), &, > : execute_onexit_table :
calc::vs2CsfVs : calc::vs2CsfVs : LdrpCallInitRoutine :
LdrShutdownProcess : RtlExitUserProcess : ExitProcessImplementation :
exit_or_terminate_process : common_exit : BaseThreadInitThunk :
RtlUserThreadStart :




QGIS Info
QGIS Version: 3.20.3-Odense
QGIS code revision: 495fbaec
Compiled against Qt: 5.15.2
Running against Qt: 5.15.2
Compiled against GDAL: 3.3.1
Running against GDAL: 3.3.1



System Info
CPU Type: x86_64
Kernel Type: winnt
Kernel Version: 10.0.19043



Any idea what is going wrong?


Regards


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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Stefan Giese (WhereGroup)


Did you try it also with a new profile?

Just make a new prrofile and test it again: Menu->Settings->User 
Profiles->New Profile


If QGIS don't chrashes again, then your user profile is corrupt...

Am 06.10.2021 um 15:28 schrieb Martin Bittens:


Hello QGIS users.

Since a couple of days QGIS 3.20 crashes when I am closing the 
program. The following crash report appears:



Crash ID: 2bba35ac54ec3f66db08369439704d5a7beb5523 




Stack Trace

GDALDestroyDriver : dal::GDALRasterDriver::deregisterGDALDrivers : 
dal::Client::~Client : calc::DataStorageId::setId : ::operator() : 
__crt_seh_guarded_call::operator(), &, > : execute_onexit_table : 
calc::vs2CsfVs : calc::vs2CsfVs : LdrpCallInitRoutine : 
LdrShutdownProcess : RtlExitUserProcess : ExitProcessImplementation : 
exit_or_terminate_process : common_exit : BaseThreadInitThunk : 
RtlUserThreadStart :





QGIS Info
QGIS Version: 3.20.3-Odense
QGIS code revision: 495fbaec
Compiled against Qt: 5.15.2
Running against Qt: 5.15.2
Compiled against GDAL: 3.3.1
Running against GDAL: 3.3.1



System Info
CPU Type: x86_64
Kernel Type: winnt
Kernel Version: 10.0.19043



Any idea what is going wrong?


Regards


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[Qgis-user] QGIS 3.20 Crash

2021-10-06 Thread Martin Bittens


Hello QGIS users.

Since a couple of days QGIS 3.20 crashes when I am closing the program.
The following crash report appears:


Crash ID: 2bba35ac54ec3f66db08369439704d5a7beb5523



Stack Trace

GDALDestroyDriver : dal::GDALRasterDriver::deregisterGDALDrivers :
dal::Client::~Client : calc::DataStorageId::setId : ::operator() :
__crt_seh_guarded_call::operator(), &, > : execute_onexit_table :
calc::vs2CsfVs : calc::vs2CsfVs : LdrpCallInitRoutine :
LdrShutdownProcess : RtlExitUserProcess : ExitProcessImplementation :
exit_or_terminate_process : common_exit : BaseThreadInitThunk :
RtlUserThreadStart :




QGIS Info
QGIS Version: 3.20.3-Odense
QGIS code revision: 495fbaec
Compiled against Qt: 5.15.2
Running against Qt: 5.15.2
Compiled against GDAL: 3.3.1
Running against GDAL: 3.3.1



System Info
CPU Type: x86_64
Kernel Type: winnt
Kernel Version: 10.0.19043



Any idea what is going wrong?


Regards


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