[Ql-Users] R: QXL 3.33, DOS and W98

2018-05-21 Thread Davide Santachiara via Ql-Users 
Dear Thierry,

thank you so much for all the detailed explanations, you fully answered to
all my doubts and questions

kind regards

Davide


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Da: Thierry Godefroy [mailto:ql.us...@free.fr] 
Inviato: lunedì 21 maggio 2018 15:36
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Oggetto: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL 3.33, DOS and W98

On Mon, 21 May 2018 00:41:47 +0200, Davide Santachiara via Ql-Users wrote:

> While it seems with my old SMSQ 2.90 I managed to run SMSQ under the
Windows
> 98 DOS (i.e. starting DOS inside W98, which allowed with ALT TAB to move
to
> Windows back and forth),

Bad idea... I never ran my QXL from within Windoze, only DOS: memory
management
under DOS (and Windows) are bad enough as they are already. What you might
be
experiencing is a lack of sufficient "low mem" (that 640Kb first block of
addresses that the totally retard x86 16 bits CPUs can only address via one
64Kb segment at any given time and that all DOS executables must fit).

> with the last SMSQE.EXE version 3.33 I had to force to run in as pure DOS
> program following a W98 reboot to have a proper QL boot.

Since newer SMSQ/E executables are much larger, and since W98 is already
using the low memory in part, it is not a big surprise that it cannot work
under W98.

You *might* be successful if using DOS memory optimizers (such as QEMM)
before launching W98, depending on the amount of DOS drivers you load
on boot.

> Linked to #1 after instructing W98 to restart in DOS mode there is a
> drawback: I did not find a way to kill SMSQE.EXE (like e.g. QPC_EXIT in
QPC2
> in Windows mode of course).

You don't "kill" SMSQ/E in the QXL, you kill (or rather exit) the DOS
process
that communicates with it, and this is done by hitting CTRL ScrollLock
under SMSQ/E. You can return back to SMSQ/E by relaunching the SMSQE.EXE
executable (i.e. SMSQ/E keeps running on the QXL even while you are doing
other stuff under DOS).

Thierry.

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2018-05-21 Thread Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users 
Many thanks

Il lun 21 mag 2018, 20:34 Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> ha scritto:

> Screenshot graphics may not make it through to this list, they seem to get
> filtered out. I'll see if I can get screenshots and put them on QL Forum
> instead.
>
> Dilwyn
>
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> there's any screenshot?
>
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> 2018-05-21 19:50 GMT+02:00 Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users <
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>
> > I'm pleased to announce that Peter Chambers of GAP Software has given
> > permission for the Front Page range of QL desktop publishing programs to
> > be
> > made available as freeware.
> >
> > So I have made available copies of Front Page, Front Page Extra and Front
> > Page Extra 2 programs.
> >
> > Front Page was the first version and can run on unexpanded systems.
> > Front Page Extra was an enhanced version.
> > Front Page Extra 2 added even more facilities such as higher resolution
> > fonts.
> >
> > I've included manuals for FP Extra and FP Extra 2 as scanned Word and PDF
> > files. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the manual for the original
> > version, so if anyone has a copy which could be scanned and made
> > available,
> > please get in touch.
> >
> > Download the Front Page programs from the Graphics page on my website at
> > http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html
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Re: [Ql-Users] Front Page

2018-05-21 Thread Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users 
Screenshot graphics may not make it through to this list, they seem to get 
filtered out. I'll see if I can get screenshots and put them on QL Forum 
instead.


Dilwyn

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From: Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users

Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 7:15 PM
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Cc: Giorgio Garabello
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Front Page

there's any screenshot?

Giorgio


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2018-05-21 19:50 GMT+02:00 Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:


I'm pleased to announce that Peter Chambers of GAP Software has given
permission for the Front Page range of QL desktop publishing programs to 
be

made available as freeware.

So I have made available copies of Front Page, Front Page Extra and Front
Page Extra 2 programs.

Front Page was the first version and can run on unexpanded systems.
Front Page Extra was an enhanced version.
Front Page Extra 2 added even more facilities such as higher resolution
fonts.

I've included manuals for FP Extra and FP Extra 2 as scanned Word and PDF
files. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the manual for the original
version, so if anyone has a copy which could be scanned and made 
available,

please get in touch.

Download the Front Page programs from the Graphics page on my website at
http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html

Dilwyn

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Re: [Ql-Users] Front Page

2018-05-21 Thread Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users 
there's any screenshot?

Giorgio


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2018-05-21 19:50 GMT+02:00 Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:

> I'm pleased to announce that Peter Chambers of GAP Software has given
> permission for the Front Page range of QL desktop publishing programs to be
> made available as freeware.
>
> So I have made available copies of Front Page, Front Page Extra and Front
> Page Extra 2 programs.
>
> Front Page was the first version and can run on unexpanded systems.
> Front Page Extra was an enhanced version.
> Front Page Extra 2 added even more facilities such as higher resolution
> fonts.
>
> I've included manuals for FP Extra and FP Extra 2 as scanned Word and PDF
> files. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the manual for the original
> version, so if anyone has a copy which could be scanned and made available,
> please get in touch.
>
> Download the Front Page programs from the Graphics page on my website at
> http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html
>
> Dilwyn
>
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[Ql-Users] Front Page

2018-05-21 Thread Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users 
I'm pleased to announce that Peter Chambers of GAP Software has given 
permission for the Front Page range of QL desktop publishing programs to be 
made available as freeware.


So I have made available copies of Front Page, Front Page Extra and Front 
Page Extra 2 programs.


Front Page was the first version and can run on unexpanded systems.
Front Page Extra was an enhanced version.
Front Page Extra 2 added even more facilities such as higher resolution 
fonts.


I've included manuals for FP Extra and FP Extra 2 as scanned Word and PDF 
files. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the manual for the original 
version, so if anyone has a copy which could be scanned and made available, 
please get in touch.


Download the Front Page programs from the Graphics page on my website at 
http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html


Dilwyn

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Re: [Ql-Users] QXL 3.33, DOS and W98

2018-05-21 Thread Thierry Godefroy via Ql-Users 
On Mon, 21 May 2018 00:41:47 +0200, Davide Santachiara via Ql-Users wrote:

> While it seems with my old SMSQ 2.90 I managed to run SMSQ under the Windows
> 98 DOS (i.e. starting DOS inside W98, which allowed with ALT TAB to move to
> Windows back and forth),

Bad idea... I never ran my QXL from within Windoze, only DOS: memory management
under DOS (and Windows) are bad enough as they are already. What you might be
experiencing is a lack of sufficient "low mem" (that 640Kb first block of
addresses that the totally retard x86 16 bits CPUs can only address via one
64Kb segment at any given time and that all DOS executables must fit).

> with the last SMSQE.EXE version 3.33 I had to force to run in as pure DOS
> program following a W98 reboot to have a proper QL boot.

Since newer SMSQ/E executables are much larger, and since W98 is already
using the low memory in part, it is not a big surprise that it cannot work
under W98.

You *might* be successful if using DOS memory optimizers (such as QEMM)
before launching W98, depending on the amount of DOS drivers you load
on boot.

> Linked to #1 after instructing W98 to restart in DOS mode there is a
> drawback: I did not find a way to kill SMSQE.EXE (like e.g. QPC_EXIT in QPC2
> in Windows mode of course).

You don't "kill" SMSQ/E in the QXL, you kill (or rather exit) the DOS process
that communicates with it, and this is done by hitting CTRL ScrollLock
under SMSQ/E. You can return back to SMSQ/E by relaunching the SMSQE.EXE
executable (i.e. SMSQ/E keeps running on the QXL even while you are doing
other stuff under DOS).

Thierry.
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