RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list Norman Dunbar wrote: Sorry Malcolm, I don't quite understand the term 'a spare lunchtime'. What's one of those then ? I've

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-10 Thread Norman Dunbar
: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Malcolm Cadman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list Thanks ... but don't hold

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-08 Thread Norman Dunbar
Claus, it sucks if certain people don't stop to waste / steal my time with permanently off topic talking I don't permanaently talk about M$, viruses etc. I contribute quite a lot of QL stuff too. I'd say about 95% roughly ofmy posts are QL related. If I wanted to talk M$ permananetly, trust

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-08 Thread Norman Dunbar
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list Now boys I think it is time this one was put to bed. All three lists that I subscribe to go OT at times, one in particular has a very active moderator, reads

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-08 Thread ZN
May I point out that the number of 'is/isn't OT' and 'who reacted in what way' posts is now approaching a good 30% share in the 80% of OT messages and is just making things worse. In the past when the list would wander, going back to QL topics without further bickering has been proven a great way

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-08 Thread Geoff Wicks
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list Well, perhaps the person using it actually thought that there is such a thing as M$ crap - and I presume that a certain number of people on this list will agree (me, for instance

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list: THE END

2002-02-08 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
At 06:45 ìì 8/2/2002 +, you wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list Well, perhaps the person using it actually thought that there is such a thing as M$ crap - and I presume that a certain number of people

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-08 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Geoff Wicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is clearly a need for a document on virus handling ... when I get time I will liase with you and we can put out an advice notice. Maybe on your

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Darren . Branagh
Roy Wood Wrote:- I don't know about the rest of you but I have always seen this list as the cybernetic equivalent of the chat in the pub after a QL show. Very much so, I agree totally. Except cybernetic pints don't quite taste the same ;-)) There are some groups of people earnestly

[ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list (OT)

2002-02-07 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 at 09:40:31, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Roy Wood Wrote:- I don't know about the rest of you but I have always seen this list as the cybernetic equivalent of the chat in the pub after a QL show. Very much so, I agree totally. Except cybernetic pints don't quite taste

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list (OT)

2002-02-07 Thread Darren . Branagh
Tony Firshman wrote:- I don't get cross at a choral concert if someone talks about the weather. I cannot understand people getting hot under the collar about all this and stamping feet. There is more to life. Agreed. Lets all lighten up a bit.. Darren - where have you stashed your 500m

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Richard Zidlicky
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:14:38AM -, Norman Dunbar wrote: Please don flame proof clothing before reading this !! BEGIN RANT MODE Bye bye then Peter. I think your attitude sucks (to be quite brutally honest) but you have made your choice to go, then so be it. I think your hardware

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Richard Zidlicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list [ND] I think your hardware posts are pretty tedious - [RZ] but they are on-topic Yes, I agree

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Dave
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: [ND] I think your hardware posts are pretty tedious - [RZ] but they are on-topic Yes, I agree, and didn't say that they weren't. However, there is a ql-developers list for hardware ? So, effectively, all the hardware stuff in ql-users *is* OT

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:22 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: Well, hardware *development* has an appropriate group, but general

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Dave
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: Also, if anyone feels any specialist lists should be set up (ql-advocacy, ql-pubchat, ql-fetist anyone? ;) I run a listserver. ql_fetist - interesting. What's one of them ? :o) Argh, typo! ql-fetish... The way some people go on about the QL it's

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
At 02:25 ìì 7/2/2002 +, you wrote: ql_fetist - interesting. What's one of them ? :o) Probably me (sleep with my Aurora every night - Much to my wife's chagrin...) Phoebus

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Ian . Pine
-users Cc: dexter Subject: RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: Also, if anyone feels any specialist lists should be set up (ql-advocacy, ql-pubchat, ql-fetist anyone? ;) I run a listserver. ql_fetist - interesting. What's one

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Dave
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Web-based chat coming soon - much better than the current board... But then I wouldn't be able to read the messages as they arrive throughout the day like I can with email. Our web access is monitored. That would be: better than the board

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Ian . Pine
Can't telnet. SSH? Please excuse my ignorance of that particular TLA :O) -Original Message- From: dexter Sent: 07 February 2002 14:59 To: ql-users Cc: dexter Subject: RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Web-based

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Dave
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't telnet. SSH? Please excuse my ignorance of that particular TLA :O) SSH is the Secure SHell. It's essentially telnet by SSL... All traffic is encrypted both ways. Whenever you're telnetting to a Linux machine, SSH does the same job

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
At 02:59 ìì 7/2/2002 +, you wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Web-based chat coming soon - much better than the current board... But then I wouldn't be able to read the messages as they arrive throughout the day like I can with email. Our web access is

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Ian . Pine
15:13 To: ql-users Cc: dexter Subject: RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't telnet. SSH? Please excuse my ignorance of that particular TLA :O) SSH is the Secure SHell. It's essentially telnet by SSL... All traffic

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 at 14:31:08, Dave wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: Also, if anyone feels any specialist lists should be set up (ql-advocacy, ql-pubchat, ql-fetist anyone? ;) I run a listserver. ql_fetist - interesting. What's one of them ?

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Richard Zidlicky
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 02:10:22PM -, Norman Dunbar wrote: -Original Message- From: Richard Zidlicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list [ND] I think your hardware

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Geoff Wicks
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is clearly a need for a document on virus handling ... when I get time I will liase with you and we can put out an advice notice. Maybe on your website. Then whenever there is a problem with a virus we can refer to

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread cgraf
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:14:38 - Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don flame proof clothing before reading this !! BEGIN RANT MODE I think your attitude sucks (to be quite brutally honest) but you have made your choice to go, then so be it. it sucks if certain people don't

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread cgraf
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 21:24:38 + Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] uk, Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Please don flame proof clothing before reading this !! BEGIN RANT MODE Snipped :-) END RANT MODE A lot of your 'rant' needed to said.

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread cgraf
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:40:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The I'm not playing anymore attitude is great when you're seven years old, kinda wears out after that. Guess what? Some people have grown up, need to go to work and don't have the full day to filter a grain of ql info out of

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-07 Thread Bill Waugh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:14:38 - Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don flame proof clothing before reading this !! BEGIN RANT MODE I think your attitude sucks (to be quite brutally honest) but you have made your choice to go, then so be it.

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-06 Thread Norman Dunbar
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Peter Graf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk

RE: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-06 Thread Darren . Branagh
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Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-06 Thread Malcolm Cadman
attitude from some people that 'only their way is right' gets on my t*ts ! -Original Message- From: Peter Graf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list Hi folks, I find it absolutely OK to have

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-06 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Tony Firshman wrote: If the virus has come via the list, then I think it _is_ on topic, and the information is interesting. Not only that, it serves as a reminder of why QLs are so great. No viruses! BTW: I'm

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-06 Thread Roy Wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi folks, I find it absolutely OK to have some off-topic mails on this list now and then. But in the last weeks there has been a neverending *huge* flood of absolutely non QL-related traffic. PC's, Microsoft, the related

[ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-05 Thread Peter Graf
Hi folks, I find it absolutely OK to have some off-topic mails on this list now and then. But in the last weeks there has been a neverending *huge* flood of absolutely non QL-related traffic. PC's, Microsoft, the related software and the related viruses and the related problems will never end,

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-05 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
At 10:41 ìì 5/2/2002 +0100, you wrote: Hi folks, I find it absolutely OK to have some off-topic mails on this list now and then. But in the last weeks there has been a neverending *huge* flood of absolutely non QL-related traffic. PC's, Microsoft, the related software and the related viruses

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-05 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi folks, I find it absolutely OK to have some off-topic mails on this list now and then. But in the last weeks there has been a neverending *huge* flood of absolutely non QL-related traffic. PC's, Microsoft, the related software

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-05 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 at 22:41:31, Peter Graf wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hi folks, I find it absolutely OK to have some off-topic mails on this list now and then. But in the last weeks there has been a neverending *huge* flood of absolutely non QL-related traffic. PC's, Microsoft, the

Re: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list

2002-02-05 Thread Dave
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Tony Firshman wrote: If the virus has come via the list, then I think it _is_ on topic, and the information is interesting. Not only that, it serves as a reminder of why QLs are so great. No viruses! BTW: I'm still QL-less... Scary huh? Dave ql.spodmail.com