Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-27 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 at 23:10:21, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 at 19:09:42, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcel Kilgus ql- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Tony

RE: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-26 Thread Claude Mourier 00
Someone like the Arlsienne ? -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Tony Tebby Envoy : mardi 25 janvier 2005 12:02 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II Rich Mellor wrote: Excellent news - now all we need

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:44:27 -, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dilwyn Jones writes: Tony Tebby wrote: Maybe that's out of copyright by now or maybe I'm not dead yet. Ah, uncertainty. Maybe somebody should open the box and have a look then? No wonder the QL user list has been so

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-25 Thread Tony Tebby
Rich Mellor wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:22 +, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a discussion with Tony Tebby Jochen Merz and I have his permission to release the three Pointer Environment extensions HOT_REXT, PTR_GEN and WMAN as freeware. They will now be freely

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-25 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Tony Tebby wrote: Maybe that's out of copyright by now or maybe I'm not dead yet. Ah, uncertainty. Maybe somebody should open the box and have a look then? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-25 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Rich Mellor wrote: Maybe that's out of copyright by now or maybe I'm not dead yet. Ah, uncertainty. Maybe somebody should open the box and have a look then? No wonder the QL user list has been so busy this year if we are starting to get contributions from beyond the grave... Well, the boxes

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-25 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Tony Tebby wrote: Maybe that's out of copyright by now or maybe I'm not dead yet. Ah, uncertainty. Maybe somebody should open the box and have a look then? No wonder the QL user list has been so busy this year if we are starting to get contributions from beyond the grave... -- Rich Mellor Old

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-25 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes: Tony Tebby wrote: Maybe that's out of copyright by now or maybe I'm not dead yet. Ah, uncertainty. Maybe somebody should open the box and have a look then? No wonder the QL user list has been so busy this year if we are starting to get contributions from

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-24 Thread P Witte
P Witte wrote: TK2 V2.12, at least, contains the keywords to make or open directories. I think the actual directory drivers are implemented separately. At least with some of the emulators you have to load both the toolkit ROM and a driver ROM such as NFA.ROM The above is wrong. Apologies.

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-24 Thread Jeremy Taffel
P Witte wrote: The current Smsqe version of TK2 is 3.28. Is that compatible with Minny/JS or do non-SMSQE users need a different version? If so which? and how do I tell which version I have? Jeremy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-24 Thread John Gilpin
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II P Witte wrote: The current Smsqe version of TK2 is 3.28. Is that compatible with Minny/JS or do non

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-24 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes P Witte wrote: The current Smsqe version of TK2 is 3.28. Is that compatible with Minny/JS or do non-SMSQE users need a different version? If so which? and how do I tell which version I have? I think we need to get a definitive

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-24 Thread Dilwyn Jones
to cleanly extract, so I don't know what the most recent or most suitable stand-alone version for general release might be. Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Pointer

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP The -command- is there, but is the actual code to create the directories actually part of the TK2 ROM section of the O/S. It might well be, but what you did doesn't -prove- it. It might rely on specific hardware/firmware.

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Stephen
Roy wood wrote: The -command- is there, but is the actual code to create the directories actually part of the TK2 ROM section of the O/S. of you out there who have done this so can you test it ? - Actually you can test it, Tony. You have a QDOS emulator running don't you? If you do make a

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 at 11:07:00, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip Actually you can test it, Tony. You have a QDOS emulator running don't you? If you do make a TKII image that can be LRESPR'd and the code works to create directories please let me have it for distribution. I only

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones
After a discussion with Tony Tebby Jochen Merz and I have his permission to release the three Pointer Environment extensions HOT_REXT, PTR_GEN and WMAN as freeware. They will now be freely distributable. Copyright will remain with Tony Tebby I have some documentation with explanation the

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Great news, send the software on to me as soon as you have it ready. I will do it as soon as I get through all this Beta testing I am doing. I'm glad that TK2 especially is being made available as I was getting a lot of requests

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread P Witte
Roy wood writes: All you've proved is that the MAKE_DIR procedure is part of TKII... But that was the bit he wanted. What were the differences between the level two drivers and the normal ones then? This was a long time ago but I thought that the differences were mainly the sub-directories

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Jeremy Taffel
P Witte wrote: Roy wood writes: All you've proved is that the MAKE_DIR procedure is part of TKII... But that was the bit he wanted. What were the differences between the level two drivers and the normal ones then? This was a long time ago but I thought that the differences were mainly

RE: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Daniele Terdina
TK2 V2.12, at least, contains the keywords to make or open directories. I think the actual directory drivers are implemented separately. At least with some of the emulators you have to load both the toolkit ROM and a driver ROM such as NFA.ROM Yes, toolkit keywords like MAKE_DIR handle the

RE: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Daniele Terdina
TK2 V2.12, at least, contains the keywords to make or open directories. I Is V2.12 the latest version that was released? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-23 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Hmm... methinks I should have been less cryptic :-) Unlike the ROM cartridge TK2, the GC ROM consists of several software elements. TK2 is one, the Level 2 RAM device driver is another and, of course, the Level 2 FLP device

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-22 Thread SMSQ - Jochen Merz
Nope - the Level 2 drivers weree seaparate unfortunately Can't remember who did them - Jochen do you recall? I think the Level 2 drivers came with the ATARI Emulator and GoldCard and QXL... too long ago for details. Done by QJUMP, of course... Cheers Jochen

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-22 Thread John Hall
Roy Wood wrote: I have just done a little test here with a standard QL, twin floppies and a Gold Card. No software loaded. Without TKII MAKE_DIR FLP1_TEST gives bad name - nothing happens. Load TKII from the Gold Card MAKE_DIR FLP1_TEST creates a directory I would say that is

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-22 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP I would say that is conclusive. The Level II drivers are in the TKII ROM which is now freeware. ... but only the TKII with Gold Card/Super Gold Card (and Trump Card?). It is not on the standalone ROMs. There it is then. If

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-22 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Rubbish :-) All you've proved is that the MAKE_DIR procedure is part of TKII... But that was the bit he wanted. What were the differences between the level two drivers and the normal ones then? This was a long time ago but I

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-22 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 at 18:52:28, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Rubbish :-) All you've proved is that the MAKE_DIR procedure is part of TKII... But that was the bit he wanted. What were the differences between the

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-22 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:52:22 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 at 18:52:28, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Rubbish :-) All you've proved is that the MAKE_DIR procedure is part of

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-21 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:36:47 -0800, Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did TKII come with the Level II drivers (that supported Subdirectories) or was that a separate piece? I know my Gold Card came support for

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-21 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 at 20:54:47, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip I am 100% sure that the level II drivers were done by TT - who else?? I have just done a little test here with a standard QL, twin floppies and a Gold Card. No software loaded. Without TKII MAKE_DIR FLP1_TEST

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-20 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:22 +, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a discussion with Tony Tebby Jochen Merz and I have his permission to release the three Pointer Environment extensions HOT_REXT, PTR_GEN and WMAN as freeware. They will now be freely distributable. Copyright will

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-20 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes After a discussion with Tony Tebby Jochen Merz and I have his permission to release the three Pointer Environment extensions HOT_REXT, PTR_GEN and WMAN as freeware. They will now be freely distributable. Copyright will remain with

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-20 Thread P Witte
Roy wood writes: After a discussion with Tony Tebby Jochen Merz and I have his permission I hope you will all agree this is good news. This is splendid news! Time for an Upgrade your QL website, somebody? Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-20 Thread Timothy Swenson
Did TKII come with the Level II drivers (that supported Subdirectories) or was that a separate piece? I know my Gold Card came support for Subdirectories and I thought that was with TKII. For using UQLX, having Subdirectory support would be very usefull. Tim Swenson