Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-16 Thread Tarquin Mills
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Joking apart, this seems to have struck a chord pretty quickly with a few people here. I hope someone will have a quick look at this to see if it's a reasonably feasible programming job. Something for Phoebus to do in his summer break perhaps (as he's ported uQLx to

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-13 Thread pgraf
Phoebus wrote: Actually that was Peter and it wasn't even as much a port as a recompile using readily available linux emulation libraries. To my knowledge not a single line of code had to be changed (except the Makefile any maybe disabling some stuff that doesn't work). Absolutely right.

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-13 Thread Timothy Swenson
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:10:39 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, for me UQLX-win32 was just a little experiment, I hope nobody expects a seriously tested software. Under Windows, Qemulator should provide similar 68k emu speed at more comfort. Personally, I'd love to to UQLX-win32 as a solid

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-12 Thread Gerhard Plavec
You cannot use the phone and bluetooth functions but it remains a programmable PDA with photo and video-camera :) You can read and answer all the eMails, MMS and SMS you got before switching to the plane mode to be ready sending them exiting plane or hospital... You have a better phone than

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-12 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
Marcel Kilgus wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious as to the negativity - I thing the *language* Java is ok, but the concept of using a virtual machine to artificially slow down perfectly fine and fast PCs is braindead (actually it is fine for Web applications that ought to run on a lot

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-12 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Joachim Van der Auwera wrote: Speed is not the issue. I beg to differ. Applications coming to a complete halt because the garbage collector decides that it is time to bring out the thrash are not unheard of. And that's basically my point. A garbage collector is a convenience for the programer.

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Darren . Branagh
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Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread dilwyn.jones
Darren Branagh wrote: I know a few people - that can be arranged :-)) Why so? Not a Java fan? Marcel Kilgus wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its programmed in Java, so what are the chances of getting a QPC version? :-)) QPC in Java? Only over my cold, dead body. ;-)

Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Darren . Branagh
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Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Gerhard Plavec
Imagine the xchange suite running on your mobile phone, or the like of quascade and the PE on a mobile.. using the joystick on the phone to control the pointer drool!! Not to mention being able to tinker on the way into work on the train!! Marcel, if you are so Java opposed, how big

Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Dr Colin F Parsons
Just curious as to the negativity - it would be a great way of possibly getting QPC out there a bit more. Plus, as most QL applications are tiny, the small memory (in relative terms to a PC) needed lends itself perfectly to Mobile Phones. Imagine the xchange suite running on your mobile

Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread dilwyn.jones
Dr Colin F Parsons wrote: Marcel, if you are so Java opposed, how big a job would it be to port QPC to the phone using C/C++ ? (virtual programming novice and all round idiot talking here!!) Cheers, Darren Branagh, HI, Being a bit of a devil's advocate, but just as a matter

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something for Phoebus to do in his summer break perhaps (as he's ported uQLx to another platform, for example). Actually that was Peter and it wasn't even as much a port as a recompile using readily available linux emulation libraries. To my knowledge not a single line

Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Berger
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60? Imagine the xchange suite running on your mobile phone Please do not forget: if you go for text based applications

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Darren . Branagh
I thing the *language* Java is ok, but the concept of using a virtual machine to artificially slow down perfectly fine and fast PCs is braindead (actually it is fine for Web applications that ought to run on a lot of different platforms, which is where Java originated, but NOT for ordinary

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 at 14:53:36, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious as to the negativity - I thing the *language* Java is ok, but the concept of using a virtual machine to artificially slow down perfectly fine and fast PCs is braindead (actually

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 at 16:18:39, Michael Berger wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) PS: oh BTW I almost sent this mail using the pseude-english noun handy instead of cell phone. That is a funny thing and I really do not know an explanation for it: here in germany the term handy is THE established

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Tony Firshman wrote: My Tosh Libretto (256mHz /64mb ram) quite happily runs XP and all std applications I have thrown at it - qemulator included. The fastest PC I own is still my 850Mhz notebook (usually run with 600Mhz) and 384MB Ram. As I don't play any current games that was enough for

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if somebody paid me full time to professionally do that job I'd say 1 to 2 EUR might be enough... Cheque or cash :-)) Only cash :-) Or would the undying appreciation of this QL user do? Nah, didn't think so..!! Almost but not quite ;-) Marcel

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-11 Thread Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooh...ql-users war about to break out between Ireland and Germany? ;-)) Nah, never. I might want to visit it someday ;-) Why don't you? open invite, you'd enjoy the piss-up, whoops sorry, Ql Show we have... I'd like to, but it's quite a distance from here, especially

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-10 Thread wolfgang mühlegger
Tony Firshman schrieb: that would be nice... Can you make phone calls with it? (8-)# is THAT important? :- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-10 Thread Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its programmed in Java, so what are the chances of getting a QPC version? :-)) QPC in Java? Only over my cold, dead body. ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Berger
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:39 PM Subject: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60? I recently upgraded my Nokia mobile phone, from a 7650 to a new 3660 with video playback. On surfing the web, I found a really

Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?

2004-08-10 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:01:07 +0200, Michael Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:39 PM Subject: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60? I recently upgraded my Nokia mobile phone, from a 7650 to