Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm told I was wrong - DRVlink and DRVchk were never supplied as SBASIC progs, they were always executables like the current ones. Hmmm - not wishing to disagree at all, but I think I might ! I'm almost 100% certain I once had a disc with these two programs in executable and SuperBasic source because I read the source to find out what they did and how they did it. As ever with TT's code, it's written in some foreign language and I didn't understand a word of it :o( It might have been on the QXL disc(s) or something, but I have seen the source (many years ago.) Bear in mind that my memory isn't all that great (I need a RAM upgrade to my head, probably a CPU upgrade as well) but as I said above, I'm almost 100% certain. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
Hi John, Wen I bought a Q40 many years ago, when it first came, I also had problems with DRVLINK losing data on a Q40 style hard disk partition. So I never used it again. I was going to delete it from the support disks with he Q60, but others around me said that this is a supplied program and should be used with care. My personal feeling were it should never be used, as the source is not available. Unless it is in the SMSQ/E source, maybe Wolfgang can correct me here. Derek John Hall wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote: Tony Tebby did at one stage provide a couple of qxl.win checking and recovery programs written in SBASIC (drvlink and drvcheck or some such names) don't know if those are still supplied and indeed if they work on current systems. DRVLNK (the one that performs various consistency checks) works fine on QXL.WIN files but should NOT be used on Q40/Q60 partitions - in a moment of madness over Xmas I checked my WIN1 and lost the lot! (Of course the _really_ stupid bit was accepting its offer to fix the cluster map...) John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
Tony Tebby did at one stage provide a couple of qxl.win checking and recovery programs written in SBASIC (drvlink and drvcheck or some such names) don't know if those are still supplied and indeed if they work on current systems. The programs are on the QPC2 disk in the folders that no one looks at. In the folder DHUTIL there are two versions of DRVCHK and two of DRVLNK. Does anyone actually use them? Another thought, now that QL programs are getting bigger do we need a QL defrag routine? Best wishes, Geoff These are executables. I'm sure these were SBASIC programs back in the days of the QXL. That's the kind of thing Stuart was looking for I think to see if he could write his own. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 25/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
Tony Tebby did at one stage provide a couple of qxl.win checking and recovery programs written in SBASIC (drvlink and drvcheck or some such names) don't know if those are still supplied and indeed if they work on current systems. DRVLNK (the one that performs various consistency checks) works fine on QXL.WIN files but should NOT be used on Q40/Q60 partitions - in a moment of madness over Xmas I checked my WIN1 and lost the lot! (Of course the _really_ stupid bit was accepting its offer to fix the cluster map...) John I'm told I was wrong - DRVlink and DRVchk were never supplied as SBASIC progs, they were always executables like the current ones. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 25/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete Snip Tony Tebby did at one stage provide a couple of qxl.win checking and recovery programs written in SBASIC (drvlink and drvcheck or some such names) don't know if those are still supplied and indeed if they work on current systems. The programs are on the QPC2 disk in the folders that no one looks at. In the folder DHUTIL there are two versions of DRVCHK and two of DRVLNK. Does anyone actually use them? Another thought, now that QL programs are getting bigger do we need a QL defrag routine? Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Tony Tebby did at one stage provide a couple of qxl.win checking and recovery programs written in SBASIC (drvlink and drvcheck or some such names) don't know if those are still supplied and indeed if they work on current systems. DRVLNK (the one that performs various consistency checks) works fine on QXL.WIN files but should NOT be used on Q40/Q60 partitions - in a moment of madness over Xmas I checked my WIN1 and lost the lot! (Of course the _really_ stupid bit was accepting its offer to fix the cluster map...) John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Fw: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
Oops, try again, to the right address this time. - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete A solution has presented itself [I can get a further set of the missing originals], so I no longer need to recover the files from the win_ directory. In answer to your questions, Darren, I lost both a WIN_ file which I didn't recover, and also the contents (by WDEL) of another win_ file. This was due to the need for a Windows reinstall some months later than screwing up one of the win_ files, which lost the win_ file on the Windows partition. So I had the worst of both worlds. Darren, if you are keen to see what files can be salvaged from the remaining win_ file, I would be interested. However, this is no longer an essential exercise as before, rather it would be for the good of the QL community, as an experiment to see if files can be recovered. You should know I have tried the QL utility recover_x before, without success. OK, I grabbed some time tonight and put a few file disk Archive recovery programs onto the Files page on my website in case anyone's interested in them as downloads. Most are old and may only work on older systems, or on DD disks for example. Some have sources. RecoverX - recover/extract files from QXL.WIN. Sources included. RecoverQ - recover damaged files from QL floppy FDU - Ergon's Floppy DIsk Utilities Sec-Ed - Disk sector editor written in BASIC Rettunge - rescue deleted files on QL floppy disks ResQL - recover damaged files or floppy disks Media Manager SE - Sources for Chas Dillon's disk handler once sold by DP. Strange situation, permission only extends to the sources AFAIK, but might be useful for someone wanting to write a disk reader. Written to be compiled with Turbo. Recover - Archive database recovery program They've been in the PD library for some time, but few people bother with that now :-( Done in a bit of a rush tonight, so not much tested, hope it works OK. Might help people who have found themselves in Stuart's situation, although I think he'd tried some of them without success in his case. Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
On Sat, 21 May 2005 at 19:22:48, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The tediousness of keeping backups (e.g. copy QXL.WIN to a CD-RW on a PC a couple of time a month) is so much easier than trying to undelete files on a QL. Exactly. I use a 6.4GB hard disk with (maybe) 24 partitions on my Aurora/qubide based BBS system. I then increment the partition number daily on my backup program. I could be more sophisticated, and keep 1 month backups too. This has been running mainly unattended since the late nineties. Mind you I have had no file problems at all since moving to Mplane. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Digital Precision Software/Undelete
Hi, All. A solution has presented itself [I can get a further set of the missing originals], so I no longer need to recover the files from the win_ directory. In answer to your questions, Darren, I lost both a WIN_ file which I didn't recover, and also the contents (by WDEL) of another win_ file. This was due to the need for a Windows reinstall some months later than screwing up one of the win_ files, which lost the win_ file on the Windows partition. So I had the worst of both worlds. Darren, if you are keen to see what files can be salvaged from the remaining win_ file, I would be interested. However, this is no longer an essential exercise as before, rather it would be for the good of the QL community, as an experiment to see if files can be recovered. You should know I have tried the QL utility recover_x before, without success. Finally, Dilwyn, thanks for the offer, but I don't need the advert to be run in QL today anymore. Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience on your part to date. Regards all, Stuart ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
