[ql-users] Quanta 2005
Just a quick comment - one of the reasons that the Quanta committee seemed to want the QL 2005 meeting down south was because they thought that Manchester was not capable of holding such a prestigious event. Well its now apparently good enough for the Labour Party Conference as they are moving there... So why not the QL?? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [ql-users] Quanta 2005 Just a quick comment - one of the reasons that the Quanta committee seemed to want the QL 2005 meeting down south was because they thought that Manchester was not capable of holding such a prestigious event. Well its now apparently good enough for the Labour Party Conference as they are moving there... So why not the QL?? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ JG Everyone seems to think that Manchester is built out of Scout Huts (or Headquarters as we prefer to call them!) We are already looking for a more prestigious venue for AGM 2006. Rest assured, We'll find one! Regards, John Gilpin Nemqlug Sub-Group. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
At 18:07 16/01/2005 +, you wrote: Everyone seems to think that Manchester is built out of Scout Huts (or Headquarters as we prefer to call them!) We are already looking for a more prestigious venue for AGM 2006. So the 2005 on the very edge of the country, almost as far away from as many members as possible. Should make for a quiet AGM and for the swapping of hats. You could start from the other end, where do members/users live ? Select a location to suit them, the possible visitors rather than a clique. But from a general point of convenience it would surely be Brum or London. For whom is the prestige being sought ? Is it the 300 or so members, or the handful that responded to the survey, what potential or likely attendance ? Perhaps a Scout hut after all. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [ql-users] Quanta 2005 Just a quick comment - one of the reasons that the Quanta committee seemed to want the QL 2005 meeting down south was because they thought that Manchester was not capable of holding such a prestigious event. Well its now apparently good enough for the Labour Party Conference as they are moving there... So why not the QL?? Because as an organisation Quanta is not worried by massive Liberal Democrat gains in the Manchester area. Whilst I would agree there is a general prejudice against Manchester, or anything north of the Thames, in the QL community, that was not relevant to Quanta's decision. It had much more to do with the cock-up theory. Or our old friends, the keywords PISS_UP and BREWERY. Quanta's current aim is to make the AGM the number one UK show each year. In May 2004 the committee decided to hold a two day show (QL2005) to include the AGM somewhere in the south as it was the south's turn. For reasons that are still unclear to me by the end of October 2004 nothing had been done to organise this. By that time it was too late for the deadlines of both the Quanta Magazine and QL-Today to ensure adequate publicity beforehand or to arrange a show programme. The event was postponed until October and for some reason the decision to remain in the south stuck. John Gilpin would like to have a major event (+AGM) in Manchester at the end of April 2006. Let's be positive and make something good of that, Best Wishes, Geoff (personal) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
- Original Message - From: David Tubbs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005 You could start from the other end, where do members/users live ? Select a location to suit them, the possible visitors rather than a clique. If you are a member of Quanta, you should already know the answer to this question. See my article in the Quanta Magazine Vol 21 issue 5/6 page 14. If you are not a member of Quanta, I am not interested in your opinions about where we hold our AGM, Best Wishes, Geoff (personal) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Quanta 2005
It is nice to know that Quanta are indeed planning on holding a big show in 2005 to celebrate 21 years of the QL. However, what a shame that it is to be held in Portsmouth.. I would have thought that QL 2005 should be held in Birmingham or Manchester - there are just as many nice venues there and plenty of countryside to explore (as opposed to the sea side yet again) - plus you might get to see some of the conservation work I do !! If enough people want to learn how to hedgelay - I am sure I could organise something - that WOULD be something different for those who don't want to spend all day at the show. So why not Portsmouth?? a) The last big UK QL Show was held there - all the users north of Birmingham probably missed out as it is too far to travel and fear having to navigate London / M25 to get there. Its time the northern users were given an opportunity. They could travel by train, but then still have to change in London so far as I know (or go via Bristol) b) Overseas visitors have to fly into one of the London airports which are extremely busy. Plus, they then have to catch a train into London, navigate the London Underground and then catch another train to Portsmouth (at least I don't think that there is a station in London which serves Heathrow, Gatwick AND Portsmouth, or even two of those locations). c) Portsmouth is too far from the airports to make any option other than train or coach viable. It is at least a couple of hours travel from the airport, as well as probably 3 or 4 trains. On the other hand, Manchester and Birmingham both have their own international airport (one in each city), with a simple train linkn from the airport to the city, and you should then be able to catch another train to the venue, leaving from the same station. You could probably find a cheap venue not too far from the airport, making taxis a viable option. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 at 11:51:53, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) It is nice to know that Quanta are indeed planning on holding a big show in 2005 to celebrate 21 years of the QL. However, what a shame that it is to be held in Portsmouth.. I would have thought that QL 2005 should be held in Birmingham or Manchester snip I agree. I would prefer Birmingham. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: [ql-users] Quanta 2005 It is nice to know that Quanta are indeed planning on holding a big show in 2005 to celebrate 21 years of the QL. However, what a shame that it is to be held in Portsmouth.. I would have thought that QL 2005 should be held in Birmingham or Manchester - Writing personally I am inclined to agree with this, but I think we should be realistic and accept that Portsmouth is the choice. The history was that the show was originally to be part of a weekend in which the Quanta AGM would be held. 2005 was the turn for a southern AGM. For some reason the venue was not booked in time, and as you know, but the rest of the list probably not, about 6 weeks ago we traders said it was too late to combine the show with the AGM because there was no time to organise adequate publicity etc. Quanta has now done its research on the possible venues including visiting the premises and if we were change this there would be further delay and expense. As a point of interest we are already thinking of the 2006 AGM which is likely to be held in Manchester. We are trying to plan the show programme well in advance to avoid clashes like the unfortunate one between the AGM and the USA show earlier this year. (In this way we have just avoided a similar nasty clash between the Quanta show, a USA show and an Eindhoven show in a Autumn 2005.) Just out of interest. How long ago was it that there was a Quanta Birmingham show? I cannot remember a single one in about 15 years, although there was a show in Selston, East Midlands in, I believe, 1998. The West Midlands does have a sub group. Are they not interested in organising a show? Best Wishes Geoff (personal opinion) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:18:20 -, gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cut Writing personally I am inclined to agree with this, but I think we should be realistic and accept that Portsmouth is the choice. The history was that the show was originally to be part of a weekend in which the Quanta AGM would be held. 2005 was the turn for a southern AGM. For some reason the venue was not booked in time, and as you know, but the rest of the list probably not, about 6 weeks ago we traders said it was too late to combine the show with the AGM because there was no time to organise adequate publicity etc. Quanta has now done its research on the possible venues including visiting the premises and if we were change this there would be further delay and expense. Yes, but it might actually be cheaper than the fees for hiring a place in Portsmouth - especially if one has not yet been chosen. The issue of geography was raised some weeks ago on this list (before QL2004). Just out of interest. How long ago was it that there was a Quanta Birmingham show? I cannot remember a single one in about 15 years, although there was a show in Selston, East Midlands in, I believe, 1998. The West Midlands does have a sub group. Are they not interested in organising a show? Don't think there ever has been one in Birmingham (despite the active sub-group), although I remember there being QL stalls at a general vintage computer fair at the staffordshire show ground (in the last days of CGH Services) and also at the Birmingham Motorcycle Museum (what a shame so many of their bikes were destroyed in a fire) Don't forget, there used to be plenty of shows held in Nottingham / Derby as well if memory serves me right. Best Wishes Geoff (personal opinion) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm