Re: [ql-users] Suggestions on a postcard ....
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 at 11:29:06, Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >Am Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:22:10 + hat Tony Firshman ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> geschrieben: >>> I hope they don't because of hearing you sing ;)) >> Brahm's might (8-)# >May be, but perhaps he would do what we call "turn over in his grave" >in German ;) Yep - we have "turn in his grave" too. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Am Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:22:10 + hat Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> geschrieben: I hope they don't because of hearing you sing ;)) Brahm's might (8-)# May be, but perhaps he would do what we call "turn over in his grave" in German ;) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 at 21:04:32, Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >> I do "thinging" too. >> The last was Brahms German Requiem concert in Cambridge (8-)# > >Oh yeah, "denn es wird die Posaune schallen und die Toten werden >auferstehen!" >I hope they don't because of hearing you sing ;)) Brahm's might (8-)# "The dead will rise up at the sound of the 'trombone'" (Posaune) That is a quote from the Requiem, but we have it as the 'last trumpet' in the English translation. That is probably correct as the trombone was only invented in the 17th century I think. It is all from the bible of course. We sung it in German (of course) but I only have a sketchy knowledge of the meaning. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 9 Mar 2005 at 19:19, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: () > No you are not ;-) Many of us quietly digest your writings (which is also > the case for Herb Schaaf's excellent series) Seconded Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:18:57 +, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see some more good suggestions have popped up too, cool. Keep up the cool series. While I don't do much assembly, I occasionally borrow some of the info for my C68 programming. jim Morning Jim, Thanks for the encouragment - I often wonder if I'm the only person who reads the series and if it is doing anyone any good. I know that George Gwilt and Hugh Rooms are my 'other' readers because they have commented on past articles - and offered suggestions and corrections which is always nice. No you are not ;-) Many of us quietly digest your writings (which is also the case for Herb Schaaf's excellent series) There have been a few good suggestions here as well, so rather than respond to everyone I shall take the liberty of thanking everyone here. I shall ponder which ones I can fit in and leave the rest for 'another day'. Thanks everyone and keep the suggestions coming. TARQUIN: Sorry I don't think I can do the sample player as I don't have a QL that works at present plus, my 'music' knowlege is far far less than my graphics knowlege - You did do an excellent BMP2QL converter back in the day (IIRC in a IQLR article), which I ripped off shamelessly when I did my QLGvAC converter for the PC :-) so it is unlikelt that I'll ever be able to do a sampler. (Assuming the hardware limitations allowed it!) Actually there IS a way... if the good guys at Ergon wanted to divulge their code ;-) I mean the AY chip emulator that plays via the Network port :-) for their ZX emulator (Amazing piece of work really - And works great on the Aurora...) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I do "thinging" too. The last was Brahms German Requiem concert in Cambridge (8-)# Oh yeah, "denn es wird die Posaune schallen und die Toten werden auferstehen!" I hope they don't because of hearing you sing ;)) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 at 09:15:37, wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >I think Jochen was too busy reprogramming his washing machine :-) > >I did try to persuade him to do more thinging but things seem to have >got the better of him :o) I do "thinging" too. The last was Brahms German Requiem concert in Cambridge (8-)# Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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> I did read the articles by Jochen and they were a help. But as > mentioned, the 'meaty' followup one(s) didn't happen for what ever > reason. No problems - really did appreciate what we got so far. Was > just thinking that someone might want to play around with it a bit and > perhaps take it further. Wish I had time but I am struggling to get > back into QDT again right now. I think Jochen was too busy reprogramming his washing machine :-) I did try to persuade him to do more thinging but things seem to have got the better of him :o) Keep pestering him! Dilwyn Jones Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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> Thanks for the encouragment - I often wonder if I'm the only person who reads > the series and if it is doing anyone any good. I know that George Gwilt and > Hugh Rooms are my 'other' readers because they have commented on past > articles - and offered suggestions and corrections which is always nice. Count me in too. My assembler programming is really only writing the odd basic extension for my QLiberated programs, but the series does get read by me too. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I see some more good suggestions have popped up too, cool. Keep up the > cool series. While I don't do much assembly, I occasionally borrow > some of the info for my C68 programming. > > jim > Morning Jim, Thanks for the encouragment - I often wonder if I'm the only person who reads the series and if it is doing anyone any good. I know that George Gwilt and Hugh Rooms are my 'other' readers because they have commented on past articles - and offered suggestions and corrections which is always nice. There have been a few good suggestions here as well, so rather than respond to everyone I shall take the liberty of thanking everyone here. I shall ponder which ones I can fit in and leave the rest for 'another day'. Thanks everyone and keep the suggestions coming. TARQUIN: Sorry I don't think I can do the sample player as I don't have a QL that works at present plus, my 'music' knowlege is far far less than my graphics knowlege - so it is unlikelt that I'll ever be able to do a sampler. (Assuming the hardware limitations allowed it!) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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First of all, since when were we worried about being diplomatic here :) I did read the articles by Jochen and they were a help. But as mentioned, the 'meaty' followup one(s) didn't happen for what ever reason. No problems - really did appreciate what we got so far. Was just thinking that someone might want to play around with it a bit and perhaps take it further. Wish I had time but I am struggling to get back into QDT again right now. I see some more good suggestions have popped up too, cool. Keep up the cool series. While I don't do much assembly, I occasionally borrow some of the info for my C68 programming. jim On Mar 8, 2005, at 8:10 AM, P Witte wrote: - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Suggestions on a postcard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about something on how to use Things? Ah now then, how to be diplomatic about this one ? I suggested a while back that an article on Things would be a good idea and Jochen - currently the only person I know who knows about Things - took up the challenge and did produce a couple of articles. Then they stopped (due to pressures of work and health if I remember correctly) so the 'meaty' articles on actually using Things never appeared and I'm still confused about them. So, I second your request, but unfortunately, I'm unable to assist - yet ! The only thing about Things that interests me (the rest should be pretty straight forward. All you need to do is read the manual about 100 times) is how to use parameters in Extension Things. There are also a few esoteric topics such as whether Things can be users of other Things and the like, but I suppose most of that can be discovered by just trying.. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi, How about use of Macros in assembly programs. Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about something on how to use Things? Ah now then, how to be diplomatic about this one ? I suggested a while back that an article on Things would be a good idea and Jochen - currently the only person I know who knows about Things - took up the challenge and did produce a couple of articles. Then they stopped (due to pressures of work and health if I remember correctly) so the 'meaty' articles on actually using Things never appeared and I'm still confused about them. So, I second your request, but unfortunately, I'm unable to assist - yet ! Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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About keywords and toolkits : is there any tool to configure (that is perhaps select words and merge many toolkits in one file) toolkits as old mdv Toolkit 2 ? (to avoid lots of LRESPR in boot program and discard homonymous) Claude -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Wolfgang Lenerz Envoyé : mardi 8 mars 2005 17:53 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [ql-users] Suggestions on a postcard I think that the best way to get people started in Assembler is to show them how to make a new basic keyword. Then everybody can make a small routine and test it easily. So perhaps you should explain how to make new keywords... Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I think that the best way to get people started in Assembler is to show them how to make a new basic keyword. Then everybody can make a small routine and test it easily. So perhaps you should explain how to make new keywords... Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:21:08 GMT, Tarquin Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Norman Dunbar wrote: First of all, I originally sent this request to the wrong email address (I was working from memory - not a good idea at my age) and managed to send it to Bruce. Sorry Bruce, but thanks for the suggestion. Ok, grovelling apologies over, I need/want/would like some suggestions for articles in the QL Toady Assembly Language series. I realise I have to fix that damned disassembler - but that's another job. I'm looking for something fairly short that fits into one or two issues so no long term tasks like 'convert all of Linux into M68008 assembly languge' please :o) A sample player use the QL's beeper. That may be possible only with a superHermes... I doubt if any sampling (even at a ZX Spectrum-style sample rate) would work due the peculiarities (And the incompatibilities and bugs) of the 8049 Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:24:37 +, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, grovelling apologies over, I need/want/would like some suggestions for articles in the QL Toady Assembly Language series. I realise I have to fix that damned disassembler - but that's another job. I'm looking for something fairly short that fits into one or two issues so no long term tasks like 'convert all of Linux into M68008 assembly languge' please :o) Also, I suspect I could also dig into QDOSMSQ - after all, I've been using it for years (in the series) but have never taken the time to explain it all. Anything else grabs your fancy ? Basic Extensions? Some years ago, I wrote a little extension called CHANGE supplied with Basic Reporter which lets you rename superbasic variable names, e.g. CHANGE oldname TO newname Someone else did something similar too, but I can't remember who, how, what, when, why... (age etc as per Norman's email) Simon Goodwin is the man you're trying to remember (among others... Hans-Peter Reckenwald made one similar as well IIRC) Turbo has a simmilar facility as well (not exactly that but it does the same thing if pressured ;-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Norman Dunbar wrote: > First of all, I originally sent this request to the wrong email address > (I was working from memory - not a good idea at my age) and managed to > send it to Bruce. Sorry Bruce, but thanks for the suggestion. > > Ok, grovelling apologies over, I need/want/would like some suggestions > for articles in the QL Toady Assembly Language series. I realise I have > to fix that damned disassembler - but that's another job. I'm looking > for something fairly short that fits into one or two issues so no long > term tasks like 'convert all of Linux into M68008 assembly languge' > please :o) A sample player use the QL's beeper. -- Tarquin Mills (Chairman) ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/accus/ http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Spectrum/ (We want a Spectrum +4) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Suggestions on a postcard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > How about something on how to use Things? > > > > Ah now then, how to be diplomatic about this one ? > > I suggested a while back that an article on Things would be a good idea and Jochen - currently the only person I know who knows about Things - took up the challenge and did produce a couple of articles. Then they stopped (due to pressures of work and health if I remember correctly) so the 'meaty' articles on actually using Things never appeared and I'm still confused about them. > > So, I second your request, but unfortunately, I'm unable to assist - yet ! The only thing about Things that interests me (the rest should be pretty straight forward. All you need to do is read the manual about 100 times) is how to use parameters in Extension Things. There are also a few esoteric topics such as whether Things can be users of other Things and the like, but I suppose most of that can be discovered by just trying.. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Some years ago, I wrote a little extension called CHANGE supplied with Basic >Reporter which lets you rename superbasic variable names, e.g. CHANGE oldname >TO newname >Names were unquoted and IIRC the extension searched for the two unquoted names >in the name table and swapped the tokens over or something like that. It >worked a treat in SuperBASIC, but I can't get it to work in SBASIC. I could >send you the source if I still have it for you to tweak if you can get it to >work. Go on then, I'll try :o) By the way, what long lines you have Dilwyn ! >Another useful extension would be for listing EXTRAS (basic extensions) in >sorted order, although it's easily done from BASIC. (EXTRAS#channel, then call >sorting routine). Aargh - sorting. Maybe > Third idea: extension to check for presence of given extension names and > perhaps checking for multiple definitions (re. the recent RESET discussion): > > PRINT EXISTS%(name) > PRINT TIMES%(name) > > All selfishly geared towards the S*BASIC programmer! > Well, I missed the RESET exchange I think, but surely, if an extension is re-defined, the name table entry simply gets the new verison linked in - or am I barking again ? Can there be more than one entry in the name table with the same name ? > Seriously, though, your DJToolkit never really got the attention it merited, so perhaps you could draw on code and routines in the source for that. Well, the EXISTS routine already exists (oops, recursion) in DJToolkit 1.15 which is available from your web site :o) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How about something on how to use Things? > Ah now then, how to be diplomatic about this one ? I suggested a while back that an article on Things would be a good idea and Jochen - currently the only person I know who knows about Things - took up the challenge and did produce a couple of articles. Then they stopped (due to pressures of work and health if I remember correctly) so the 'meaty' articles on actually using Things never appeared and I'm still confused about them. So, I second your request, but unfortunately, I'm unable to assist - yet ! Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mar 8, 2005, at 12:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, grovelling apologies over, I need/want/would like some suggestions for articles in the QL Toady Assembly Language series. I realise I have to fix that damned disassembler - but that's another job. I'm looking for something fairly short that fits into one or two issues so no long term tasks like 'convert all of Linux into M68008 assembly languge' please :o) How about something on how to use Things? jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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> Ok, grovelling apologies over, I need/want/would like some suggestions for > articles in the QL Toady Assembly Language series. I realise I have to fix > that damned disassembler - but that's another job. I'm looking for something > fairly short that fits into one or two issues so no long term tasks like > 'convert all of Linux into M68008 assembly languge' please :o) > Also, I suspect I could also dig into QDOSMSQ - after all, I've been using it > for years (in the series) but have never taken the time to explain it all. > > Anything else grabs your fancy ? Basic Extensions? Some years ago, I wrote a little extension called CHANGE supplied with Basic Reporter which lets you rename superbasic variable names, e.g. CHANGE oldname TO newname Someone else did something similar too, but I can't remember who, how, what, when, why... (age etc as per Norman's email) Names were unquoted and IIRC the extension searched for the two unquoted names in the name table and swapped the tokens over or something like that. It worked a treat in SuperBASIC, but I can't get it to work in SBASIC. I could send you the source if I still have it for you to tweak if you can get it to work. Another useful extension would be for listing EXTRAS (basic extensions) in sorted order, although it's easily done from BASIC. (EXTRAS#channel, then call sorting routine). Third idea: extension to check for presence of given extension names and perhaps checking for multiple definitions (re. the recent RESET discussion): PRINT EXISTS%(name) PRINT TIMES%(name) All selfishly geared towards the S*BASIC programmer! Seriously, though, your DJToolkit never really got the attention it merited, so perhaps you could draw on code and routines in the source for that. Not asking for a lot really am I :o)) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Suggestions on a postcard ....
First of all, I originally sent this request to the wrong email address (I was working from memory - not a good idea at my age) and managed to send it to Bruce. Sorry Bruce, but thanks for the suggestion. Ok, grovelling apologies over, I need/want/would like some suggestions for articles in the QL Toady Assembly Language series. I realise I have to fix that damned disassembler - but that's another job. I'm looking for something fairly short that fits into one or two issues so no long term tasks like 'convert all of Linux into M68008 assembly languge' please :o) All suggestions will be considered, some may be rejected out of hand while others may take longer to be rejected. The remainder will be written up. I've had a suggestion about expanding the linked lists article into a database system with key fields from Bruce. This is an interesting one and has started the through processes running (always a bad thing) and may come to light soon(ish). Also, I suspect I could also dig into QDOSMSQ - after all, I've been using it for years (in the series) but have never taken the time to explain it all. Anything else grabs your fancy ? Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
