[Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
As an example of my email earlier, I am grateful to Dilwyn Jones (all of them!) for bring my attention to John Taylor's observation of the unfortunate error which occurred in the March edition of the QUANTA Magazine Volume 28 Issue 2 where the account's Income and Expenditure account has been duplicated on pages 35 and 36. Sarah, who has taken on the editing of the Magazine following my resignation as Acting Editor - a post held for about 6 years, hoping that a person would volunteer to take on this very exacting role - literally jumped into the deep end early in February and (with a little assistance) produced a very creditable issue, only to find that she had so much material left to publish - including all the AGM reports etc - with very little time to prepare it all. It is regrettable, although not altogether unexpected, that a mistake in some form would occur as a result of the shortage of time and Sarah's inexperience as an editor. Please accept our sincere apologies for this error. There is very little we can do to correct this error in time for the AGM except that the eMag versions have now been corrected (which has delayed their despatching to those members who have opted to take their Magazine in this format). Extra copies of these documents will be made available at the AGM for those wishing to peruse them before the meeting. I am not surprised that it was the previous Treasurer (John Taylor) who spotted this error but I need to point out that without Dilwyn seeing John's observation and bringing it to my direct attention that I became aware of the error. The QUANTA Magazine is generally proof-read by a number of people before printing (including All the Dilwyns) but on this occasion the shortage of time and other commitments of the others prevented this from happening. Having corrected the eMag versions, they will be despatched later this afternoon Thanks for your understanding and again our sincere apology for the error, Sarah and John Gilpin QUANTA Hon. Chairman and Treasurer. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
There is very little we can do to correct this error in time for the AGM except that the eMag versions have now been corrected (which has delayed their despatching to those members who have opted to take their Magazine in this format). Extra copies of these documents will be made available at the AGM for those wishing to peruse them before the meeting. If anyone wants a copy of the missing document to study in advance of the AGM, would it be possible for you to email or post a copy on request to members, for example? Dilwyn Jones (all of the clones). ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
Dilwyn Jones wrote: There is very little we can do to correct this error in time for the AGM except that the eMag versions have now been corrected (which has delayed their despatching to those members who have opted to take their Magazine in this format). Extra copies of these documents will be made available at the AGM for those wishing to peruse them before the meeting. If anyone wants a copy of the missing document to study in advance of the AGM, would it be possible for you to email or post a copy on request to members, for example? Dilwyn Jones (all of the clones). Oops, that was meant to go direct to John, sorry. Dilwyn Jones (the guilty one) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
On 22/03/2011 12:52, John Gilpin wrote: out 6 years, hoping that a person would volunteer to take on this very exacting role - literally jumped into the deep end early in February and (with a little assistance) produced a very creditable issue, only to find that she had so much material left to publish - including all the AGM reports etc - with very little time to prepare it all. It is regrettable, although not altogether unexpected, that a mistake in some form would occur as a result of the shortage of time and Sarah's inexperience as an editor. Please accept our sincere apologies for this error. There is very little we can do to correct this error in time for the AGM except that the eMag versions have now been corrected (which has delayed their despatching to those members who have opted to take their Magazine in this format). Extra copies of these documents will be made available at the AGM for those wishing to peruse them before the meeting. I am not surprised that it was the previous Treasurer (John Taylor) who spotted this error but I need to point out that without Dilwyn seeing John's observation and bringing it to my direct attention that I became aware of the error. The QUANTA Magazine is generally proof-read by a number of people before printing (including All the Dilwyns) but on this occasion the shortage of time and other commitments of the others prevented this from happening. There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to approve the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members before the AGM - it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members who normally receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy votes could not count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted to approve something they have not seen. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
On 22 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Rich Mellor wrote: There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to approve the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members before the AGM - it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members who normally receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy votes could not count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted to approve something they have not seen. I agree. But there is something else as well. The proxy form, which I will have to use because I can't attend the meeting unfortunately, has no boxes for votes against electing the Committee members. Is this deliberate? Luckily there are boxes for votes FOR. More alarmingly, there are no boxes at all for Resolutions 6 and 7. As for resolution 6 how can one decide whether to vote for or against if there is no amount set for the new Subscription Rate? I would hope that at least the suggested new rate could be e-mailed to all of us on this list. If is the rate suggested by the Treasurer then it is in the magazine. If not, what is it? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
On 22/03/2011 14:51, gdgqler wrote: On 22 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Rich Mellor wrote: There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to approve the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members before the AGM - it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members who normally receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy votes could not count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted to approve something they have not seen. I agree. But there is something else as well. The proxy form, which I will have to use because I can't attend the meeting unfortunately, has no boxes for votes against electing the Committee members. Is this deliberate? Luckily there are boxes for votes FOR. More alarmingly, there are no boxes at all for Resolutions 6 and 7. As for resolution 6 how can one decide whether to vote for or against if there is no amount set for the new Subscription Rate? I would hope that at least the suggested new rate could be e-mailed to all of us on this list. If is the rate suggested by the Treasurer then it is in the magazine. If not, what is it? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I can't comment, as I have not yet received a copy of the Quanta magazine / proxy form, to know what the wording is for resolutions 6 and 7. There does not have to be a need to vote against a committee member's election - you don't get the chance in a local / national election after all !! You just vote for the people you want on the committee, and if there are 10 nominees and 5 places, then the 5 with the most votes get the places... -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
On 22 Mar 2011, at 14:59, Rich Mellor wrote: On 22/03/2011 14:51, gdgqler wrote: On 22 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Rich Mellor wrote: There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to approve the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members before the AGM - it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members who normally receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy votes could not count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted to approve something they have not seen. I agree. But there is something else as well. The proxy form, which I will have to use because I can't attend the meeting unfortunately, has no boxes for votes against electing the Committee members. Is this deliberate? Luckily there are boxes for votes FOR. More alarmingly, there are no boxes at all for Resolutions 6 and 7. As for resolution 6 how can one decide whether to vote for or against if there is no amount set for the new Subscription Rate? I would hope that at least the suggested new rate could be e-mailed to all of us on this list. If is the rate suggested by the Treasurer then it is in the magazine. If not, what is it? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I can't comment, as I have not yet received a copy of the Quanta magazine / proxy form, to know what the wording is for resolutions 6 and 7. There does not have to be a need to vote against a committee member's election - you don't get the chance in a local / national election after all !! You just vote for the people you want on the committee, and if there are 10 nominees and 5 places, then the 5 with the most votes get the places... I am looking at the Proxy Form for AstraZeneca PLC.This has, as resolution 5, the election or re-election of 11 directors for which there are 11 places. There are three boxes for each candidate. The first is labelled For, the second Against and the third Vote Withheld. The same should hold for QUANTA! The whole point about elections is that the members can express their opinion. In extreme cases it can happen that a candidate is not elected because there are more votes Against than For. After all that is what democracy is supposed to be about. George George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
On 22/03/2011 15:13, gdgqler wrote: On 22 Mar 2011, at 14:59, Rich Mellor wrote: On 22/03/2011 14:51, gdgqler wrote: On 22 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Rich Mellor wrote: There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to approve the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members before the AGM - it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members who normally receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy votes could not count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted to approve something they have not seen. I agree. But there is something else as well. The proxy form, which I will have to use because I can't attend the meeting unfortunately, has no boxes for votes against electing the Committee members. Is this deliberate? Luckily there are boxes for votes FOR. More alarmingly, there are no boxes at all for Resolutions 6 and 7. As for resolution 6 how can one decide whether to vote for or against if there is no amount set for the new Subscription Rate? I would hope that at least the suggested new rate could be e-mailed to all of us on this list. If is the rate suggested by the Treasurer then it is in the magazine. If not, what is it? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I can't comment, as I have not yet received a copy of the Quanta magazine / proxy form, to know what the wording is for resolutions 6 and 7. There does not have to be a need to vote against a committee member's election - you don't get the chance in a local / national election after all !! You just vote for the people you want on the committee, and if there are 10 nominees and 5 places, then the 5 with the most votes get the places... I am looking at the Proxy Form for AstraZeneca PLC.This has, as resolution 5, the election or re-election of 11 directors for which there are 11 places. There are three boxes for each candidate. The first is labelled For, the second Against and the third Vote Withheld. The same should hold for QUANTA! The whole point about elections is that the members can express their opinion. In extreme cases it can happen that a candidate is not elected because there are more votes Against than For. After all that is what democracy is supposed to be about. George George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I do tend to agree with this point, as it does allow for the dismissal of directors - however, the constitution is silent, and this should form part of the discussion about the constitution at the AGM. Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
On 22 Mar 2011, at 15:17, Rich Mellor wrote: I do tend to agree with this point, as it does allow for the dismissal of directors - however, the constitution is silent, and this should form part of the discussion about the constitution at the AGM. Clause 8.13 of the QUANTA Constitution says To elect members of the Committee. That is quite sufficient to imply that members can vote for, against or abstain. Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election? In Scotland in some cases you can't even vote for a particular candidate. All you can do is vote for a political party. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Rich Mellor wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election? It doesn't matter who you vote for or against in national elections. A government always gets in ;-) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
At 15:26 22/03/2011 +, you wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election? You can, it's called tactical voting I am unlikely to see the agenda for the AGM, is there an item :- When and in which brewery to hild the next piss0up ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.
-- From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:17 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error. Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election? One part of the proposed coalition's electoral reforms is for constituents to have the power to petition to boot out their MP's. Mind you Quanta made a prize boob in the 2006 printed version of the constitution. Clause 5.3 had some words missing which meant that when an officer was elected to the committee, he or she was elected for life. And guess which anti-Quanta individual spotted this and pointed it out to the committee, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
