qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Patrick Starrenburg
Dear All I have a query regarding the way qmail (?incorrectly?) handles time zones. I have done various tests on this, the relevant portion of header of one test email below. Essentially I sent a mail out from a client on my internal network to qmail on my gateway machine, which forwarded to

Resolution: Qmail and Request Tracker

2001-05-13 Thread Chris Jackman
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Charles Cazabon wrote: Chris Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] We noticed that there is no delivery 2: success message, nor is there ever for any other email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] If we kill all the alias processes first, and then kill the rt process

Handling high volume lists (was: Newbies vs. arrogant experts)

2001-05-13 Thread Robin S. Socha
* Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010512 20:57]: Chris Garrigues writes: As it is, I consider unsubscribing several times a week (and it's not because of the newbies). I send qmail list traffic into its own mailbox, and read it once a day. It's kind of handy, because I can see the

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 08:19:27AM +0200, Patrick Starrenburg wrote: [snip] I have already read previous (heated) discussions on this topic on the list archive but could not discern a clear answer apart from some people saying qmail works as designed - why? It seems to be the only mail

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
Patrick Starrenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: people saying qmail works as designed - why? Because it makes debugging easier. It seems to be the only mail server that does so. So what? Is that a problem? Received: (qmail 1266 invoked from network); 11 May 2001 21:22:45 - Received:

qmail Digest 13 May 2001 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1363

2001-05-13 Thread qmail-digest-help
qmail Digest 13 May 2001 10:00:01 - Issue 1363 Topics (messages 62348 through 62363): Re: config for stand-alone box 62348 by: john gennard 62349 by: john gennard 62351 by: Charles Cazabon Re: reason for problem found: connection reset after 1 minute 62350

qmail-analog

2001-05-13 Thread ross
Hi List, I have installed the qmail-analog software (http://cr.yp.to/qmailanalog.html). This has been a great help as I can now find out information on active users on my system. Is there a simple command to identify a users details? I would like a simple report which gives me information on a

Re: MASS mailing

2001-05-13 Thread Mike Jackson
Charles Cazabon wrote: There's other tricks as well, but with the above list you should easily be able to handle 1M deliveries a day on decent hardware. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the Netra you mention. Netra's are little 1U pizza box style 'servers'. They are meant for telecom

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Adrian Ho
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Patrick Starrenburg wrote: I sent the mail from the client at 19:22 GMT +0200 (western Europe summer time) it arrived back to me about a minute later and displays on my client MUA as being received at **23:23** hours, i.e. four hours in the future! [...] The client PC

Re: Newbies vs. arrogant experts (was: Newbie with tcpserver)

2001-05-13 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Russell Nelson([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.12 21:54:32 +: Chris Garrigues writes: As it is, I consider unsubscribing several times a week (and it's not because of the newbies). I send qmail list traffic into its own mailbox, and read it once a day. It's kind of handy, because I

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Patrick Starrenburg
Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: qmail uses - because it is the receiving MUA's task to display the date in the format the user desires. If your MUA is unable to do so, complain to the MUA author. It does, pls check my original mail. You will see that the MUA fully and correctly

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Patrick Starrenburg
Patrick Starrenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: people saying qmail works as designed - why? Because it makes debugging easier. ? I was meaning works as designed putting (possibly) incorrect timestamps on emails. Are you meaning debugging times or debugging qmail? If the former then that is

Re: MASS mailing

2001-05-13 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Mike Jackson([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.13 13:46:29 +: Netra's are little 1U pizza box style 'servers'. They are meant for telecom operators, etc. I use one for a qmail/courier imap server for a few hundred users, and it's ok. I definitely would not consider it a 'high end' solution. Yes,

Unsubscribe Doesn't Work

2001-05-13 Thread Jim Darrough
Help! I have sent three blank emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in an attempt to unsubscribe three times without any apparent effect. Anyone got a better idea? Thanks, Jim Darrough Jim Darrough, ARS KI7AY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ki7ay.com

qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info

2001-05-13 Thread Patrick Starrenburg
Dear All OK, sigh... I was hoping to avoid the religious OS wars and I intend to stick to the facts, I hope everyone else can also. I need to give you some further details on the setup. Also I have done a further test and I still see a problem with qmail. I have a network (for purposes of

Re: Unsubscribe Doesn't Work

2001-05-13 Thread Brett Randall
Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] the address you subscribed with? Jim == Jim Darrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Help! I have sent three blank emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in an attempt to unsubscribe three times without any apparent effect. Anyone got a better idea?

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Adrian Ho
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Patrick Starrenburg wrote: Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: qmail uses - because it is the receiving MUA's task to display the date in the format the user desires. If your MUA is unable to do so, complain to the MUA author. It does, pls check my original

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info

2001-05-13 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:28:53PM +0200, Patrick Starrenburg wrote: [snip] *Linux box* [root@linuxbox patrick]# date Sun May 13 17:02:55 GMT+2 2001 - Check Yes. *W2K box* C:\date The current date is: Sun 13/05/2001 - European date format naturally C:\time The current time is:

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Mark Delany
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:47:46PM +0200, Patrick Starrenburg wrote: Code bloat?? Doesn't seem like an excuse to me to (**possibly** we haven't determined this yet) have a fundamental error in a system because someone doesn't feel like adding code to internationalise something. Why do you

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info

2001-05-13 Thread Mark Delany
Your problem is almost certainly not qmail related. First off you may want to learn how Unix/Linux keeps time. Believe it or not, Unix/Linux don't know anything about timezones. They all keep time internally in UTC (nee GMT). Yes, every Unix server on the planet current has the same time. To

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info

2001-05-13 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
Patrick Starrenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (as it is summer and for once the sun is shining in Holland) with daylight saving it is GMT +02:00. So... I repeat: there must something wrong with your Linux setup. Qmail uses system calls of the underlying operating system to generate the

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?

2001-05-13 Thread Antonio Dias
Patrick, Seens to me that qmail is doing the right thing. Below is the headers from a message sent by you to qmail list and all date fields inserted by qmail are using the correct time: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 13 14:40:22 2001 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info

2001-05-13 Thread Mark Jefferys
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:28:53PM +0200, Patrick Starrenburg wrote: % *Linux box* % [root@linuxbox patrick]# date % Sun May 13 17:02:55 GMT+2 2001 - Check Your clock seems to be set wrong. According to Solaris and at least one web page I dug up, http://www.bsdi.com/date, GMT+2 is a posix time

Re: Handling high volume lists (was: Newbies vs. arrogant experts)

2001-05-13 Thread Chris Garrigues
From: Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13 May 2001 10:18:45 +0200 * Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010512 20:57]: Chris Garrigues writes: As it is, I consider unsubscribing several times a week (and it's not because of the newbies). I send qmail list traffic into its

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info

2001-05-13 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Patrick Starrenburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): = *Test email* Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 6078 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 **18:56:24** - [[[ Where does 18: come from ??]]] Received: from

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info

2001-05-13 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 09:10:12PM +0200, Felix von Leitner wrote: [snip] The date 18:56:24 - is equivalent to the date 16:56:24 +0200, so there is no error whatsoever here. The MTA prints the date as GMT, which actually is a feature, because it allows easy comparison of dates by

Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info

2001-05-13 Thread Patrick Starrenburg
Thanks to Adrian Ho and Mark Jefferys explanations for the solution. Adrian you were halfway there with your first reply and Mark's link pointed me in the right direction to track down the problem. The TZ setting was GMT +2 which apparently means actually the box was calculating GMT **minus 2

alias documentation

2001-05-13 Thread Neil Grant
maybe this is a stupidly easy question but I cant find where do I find out about the format of .alias files, and other documentation on them? Neil

Re: alias documentation

2001-05-13 Thread Nick (Keith) Fish
Neil Grant wrote: maybe this is a stupidly easy question but I cant find where do I find out about the format of .alias files, and other documentation on them? Neil `man dot-qmail` or if you didn't put qmail's man files in one of your MANPATH directories: `man -M /var/qmail/man

How to resend individual message?

2001-05-13 Thread Evelyn Huang
Hi, Thanks for all the people who replied to my questions earlier!! But can anyone here tell me how I can resend individual message? Besides, if I don't have a legitimate domain name, there is no way for me to test if the incoming messages from remote addresses work, right? Again,

Default forward address for entire domain with non sytems account assign file

2001-05-13 Thread Peter Janett
I apologize if this is a dumb question, but I can't seem to figure out how to set up a default forwarding address for virtual domains. In other words, if an email is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it will be forwarded to a preset address. Maybe it has something to do with the setup I'm using, which

No mail arrival notice!

2001-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, There is no mail arrival notice while the message would show up in $HOME/Mailbox! What seems to be the problem? Thanks a lot!! CY Wang

Re: Default forward address for entire domain with non sytems accountassign file

2001-05-13 Thread Ryan Byrne
Check Man page for qmail-send - virtualdomains. You may also need to use an alias (man dot-qmail). Hope this helps, ~~Moose~~ On Sun, 13 May 2001, Peter Janett wrote: I apologize if this is a dumb question, but I can't seem to figure out how to set up a default forwarding address for