Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Johan Almqvist
On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 06:36:02PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, this isn't flamebait (comment for Felix). I'm just trying to figure out why qmail is unable to correctly resolve an address in the format someone@domain Have you ever tried to send mail to postmaster@com? I have a vague

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 06:32:17PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lovely attitude you got there, friend. Does your attitude pretty much signify the attitude of the entire group here, or is it just you with the superiority complex? Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go and learn how to properly

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Russ Allbery
briank [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the response. I'm still a bit confused, though: If I attempt to inject a piece of mail with a valid, RFC822-compliant address, and qmail rejects it due to some sort of internal formatting it does, does this not defeat the purpose of having

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Louis Theran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Russ Allbery) writes: Bruno Wolff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He probably means a domain with no dots. For example: discuss@opennic That's a dumb idea. Anyway, qmail's behavior for such domain names is documented in qmail-header(5): All host names should be

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Louis Theran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you make defaultdomain the empty string, then you get: box@host - box@host. and if the host's name really is ``host.'', there's no problem. Well, yes, there is, because box@host. is an invalid mailbox per RFC 822. Trailing periods are not

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 08:05:20AM -0800, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean "someone@domain" as the complete address with no dots on the right-hand side? Bear in mind that RFC 822 contains *no* address canonicalization provisions; if you're expecting your local domain to

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Bruno Wolff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He probably means a domain with no dots. For example: discuss@opennic That's a dumb idea. Anyway, qmail's behavior for such domain names is documented in qmail-header(5): All host names should be fully qualified. qmail-inject appends the

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Russell Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, this isn't flamebait (comment for Felix). I'm just trying to figure out why qmail is unable to correctly resolve an address in the format someone@domain What are you defining as correct, and why? -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-13 Thread Russell Nelson
Brian writes: Maybe I can simplify the issue here by asking a question: Is it the consensus here that the following is RFC822 compliant: Why do you think RFC822 has anything to do with it? defaultdomain: empty QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN="" qmail-inject converts you@somew

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-12 Thread Felix von Leitner
Maybe I can simplify the issue here by asking a question: Is it the consensus here that the following is RFC822 compliant: defaultdomain: empty QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN="" qmail-inject converts you@somewhere - you@somewhere. (note the period) What kind of experts are you peop

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-12 Thread briank
at 1.03, given the support of folks like yourself. On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 03:20:22PM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote: Maybe I can simplify the issue here by asking a question: Is it the consensus here that the following is RFC822 compliant: defaultdomain: empty QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-12 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:54:48 CST: So you're basically saying that qmail can pretty much mung up an e-mail address any way it likes because it's...qmail! No, he is not saying that at all. qmail out-of-the-box will not munge anything. What that user was asking

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-12 Thread Russ Allbery
briank [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So you're basically saying that qmail can pretty much mung up an e-mail address any way it likes because it's...qmail! No, qmail-inject can munge up an e-mail address any way it likes because the behavior of the program your MUA runs is not govered by any

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-12 Thread briank
Russ-- Thanks for the response. I'm still a bit confused, though: If I attempt to inject a piece of mail with a valid, RFC822-compliant address, and qmail rejects it due to some sort of internal formatting it does, does this not defeat the purpose of having an Internet standard to begin

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-09 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 09:59:33PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is, in fact, a bug, I've got a patch which will prevent qmail-inject from appending a "." when QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN is set to "". But I wanted to make sure this was truly a problem in need of a fix. Why should anyone

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-09 Thread Brian
Also, if QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN isn't set, then this is the result (with an empty defaultdomain): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also explained in the original post... --Brian Markus Stumpf wrote: On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 09:59:33PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is, in fact, a bug, I've got

Re: RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-09 Thread Brian
Maybe I can simplify the issue here by asking a question: Is it the consensus here that the following is RFC822 compliant: defaultdomain: empty QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN="" qmail-inject converts you@somewhere - you@somewhere. (note the period) --Brian

RFC822 compliant?

2000-11-08 Thread briank
qmail-inject currently does not allow addresses of the following format: hostmaster@opennic If defaultdomain is left empty, then "defaultdomain" is appended to the address. If QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN is set to "", then a "." is appended to the address: hostmaster@opennic. The RFC is pretty clear

Re: qmail-inject not fully RFC822 compliant.

2000-07-11 Thread Petri Kaukasoina
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 03:51:50PM +0200, Magnus Bodin wrote: I use qmail-inject as my mutt mail queuing agent as this: in my .muttrc: set sendmail = '/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' I use this: set sendmail='/usr/local/sbin/muttqmail' where muttqmail is compiled from

Re: qmail-inject not fully RFC822 compliant.

2000-07-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
This is because qmail-inject expects to be passed unencoded email addresses and mutt passes rfc 821 encoded email addresses. They do this because sendmail treats addresses as being rfc 822 encoded, and some unencoded addresses won't work. If you want these addresses to work you can modify the

Re: qmail-inject not fully RFC822 compliant.

2000-07-10 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 03:51:50PM +0200, Magnus Bodin wrote: BUG-CASE: echo "To: \"address with spaces\"@x42.com\nSubject: Hello 1" | \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ "\"address with spaces\"@x42.com" Using echo -e "To:... this works for me. FAILS! but...

Re: qmail-inject not fully RFC822 compliant.

2000-07-10 Thread Magnus Bodin
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 09:18:09AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: This is because qmail-inject expects to be passed unencoded email addresses and mutt passes rfc 821 encoded email addresses. They do this because sendmail treats addresses as being rfc 822 encoded, and some unencoded addresses

Re: qmail-inject not fully RFC822 compliant.

2000-07-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 04:22:11PM +0200, Magnus Bodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you mean that mutt encodes the addresses? It passes the address like this: "address with spaces"@x42.com nothinge else. Most likely you the address you are really referring to is: address with [EMAIL