Re: Timezone

> I sent a test message using qmail-inject and found that timestamps are >> generated using UTC but the correct timezone specification >> (UTC/GMT/+) is missing. Instead the pseudo suffix - is used >> which to my limited knowledge means that the system has no knowledge &g

Re: Timezone

at timestamps are > generated using UTC but the correct timezone specification (UTC/GMT/+) > is missing. Instead the pseudo suffix - is used which to my limited > knowledge means that the system has no knowledge about it's timezone. > > Because mutt is emitting

Timezone

Hi! I have been alarmed by a posting on linux-kernel that there are several mail applications and MTA's that emit incorrect date/timestamp values. I sent a test message using qmail-inject and found that timestamps are generated using UTC but the correct timezone specification (UTC/GMT/+000

Re: [Fwd: Re: Timezone]

rth Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:05:12 + From: "Stephen F. Bosch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.17-0.16mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PRO

Re: Timezone

David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In my years of working with computers, networks, and email, I don't > think I've *ever* seen an MUA that performs this theoretically > desirable function. Gnus does, of course. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Timezone

Quoted from David Dyer-Bennet: [Re: timezone translation in Date fields] > In my years of working with computers, networks, and email, I don't > think I've *ever* seen an MUA that performs this theoretically > desirable function. Well, I can name one: mutt. You can use %

Re: Timezone

Stephen F. Bosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 29 August 2000 at 22:00:15 + > Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > > > > > qmail uses UTC for the timezone in headers, as it should. Set the timezone > > > in your MUA/mail reader, and it should automatical

Re: [Fwd: Re: Timezone]

"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > > . > . > . > Okay, for outgoing messages, perhaps... right... we're getting confused > over what is where, etc... > > The point is that Outlook incorrectly translates the header information > and shows the UTC time for mail that comes through a qmail server, > wherea

Re: [Fwd: Re: Timezone]

t; Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:14:15 -0600 > > From: "Stephen F. Bosch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) > > X-Accept-Language: en > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > CC: Qmail Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &g

Re: Timezone

"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > > Eric Cox wrote: > > > > "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > > > > > > Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, I agree with the MUA being responsible for doing the translation. > > > > But some doesn't do that. > > > > > > Like Mickeysoft's Outlook Excess, for ex

Re: Timezone

On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 08:01:36PM -0700, Eric Cox wrote: # "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: # > # > Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: # > > # > > Yes, I agree with the MUA being responsible for doing the translation. # > > But some doesn't do that. # > # > Like Mickeysoft's Outlook Excess, for example.

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ROTECTED]> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > CC: Qmail Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Timezone > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: Timezone

Eric Cox wrote: > > "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > > > > Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I agree with the MUA being responsible for doing the translation. > > > But some doesn't do that. > > > > Like Mickeysoft's Outlook Excess, for example. Outlook is not standards > > compliant. >

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"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > > Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > > > > Yes, I agree with the MUA being responsible for doing the translation. > > But some doesn't do that. > > Like Mickeysoft's Outlook Excess, for example. Outlook is not standards > compliant. > What you're essentially asking for

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"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > > Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > > > > > qmail uses UTC for the timezone in headers, as it should. Set the timezone > > > in your MUA/mail reader, and it should automatically translate timestamps > > > to local

Re: Timezone

Magnus Bodin wrote: > > You can achieve that if you apply this patch to qmail: > > ftp://ftp.nlc.net.au/pub/unix/mail/qmail/qmail-date-localtime.patch > > or if the australian line is slow: > > http://x42.com/qmail/patches/qmail-date-localtime.patch I didn't try it yet, but Thanks --

Re: Timezone

"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > . > . > . > > Like Mickeysoft's Outlook Excess, for example. Outlook is not standards > compliant. > What you're essentially asking for a way to break qmail so that it will > work with Microsoft's mediocre product. =) :o) I didn't want to break anything... =) ps: Ne

Re: Timezone

Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > > > qmail uses UTC for the timezone in headers, as it should. Set the timezone > > in your MUA/mail reader, and it should automatically translate timestamps > > to local time, if it's intelligent enough. > > Yes, I agree wi

Re: Timezone

to your satisfaction. qmail-inject will insert its own Date: header in UTC format if, and only if, there is no existing Date: header in its input. You cannot tell qmail-inject to use any other timezone, no matter how hard you push $TZ. If you want to use localtime, then use /var/qmail/bin/datemail.

Re: Timezone

On 29-Aug-2000, Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > If I wanted to hack the Received headers I would have had changed qmail > (or any other MTA) to change anything in the headers! And, it would mean > nothing, as I would not have any access to other servers in the net! Right. Received header is alw

Re: Timezone

Chris Garrigues wrote: > > > From: Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:12:32 -0200 > > > > Yes, I agree with the MUA being responsible for doing the translation. > > But some doesn't do that. I've heard about setting a TZ enviroment > > variable to do this

Re: Timezone

On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 06:12:32PM -0200, Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > Charles Cazabon wrote: > > > > Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Could anyone help me on how to set the timezone for qmail to run? > > > >

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Charles Cazabon wrote: > > Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Could anyone help me on how to set the timezone for qmail to run? > > qmail uses UTC for the timezone in headers, as it should. Set the timezone > in your MUA/mail re

Re: Timezone

Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could anyone help me on how to set the timezone for qmail to run? qmail uses UTC for the timezone in headers, as it should. Set the timezone in your MUA/mail reader, and it should automatically translate timestamps to local t

Timezone

Could anyone help me on how to set the timezone for qmail to run? Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br

Re: Timezone

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 04:43:55PM +0100, Mads E Eilertsen wrote: > If you like to display the time stamps in a local timezone, ask your MUA > author to make the MUA do so. Or take a look at http://cr.yp.to/mess822.html That's a cool idea! Do you know of any MUA's that can

Re: TimeZone patch

For the List, My apologies for inadvertently injecting HTML into this list. That will *not* happen again For Dave Sill, Thank you for your response. It is now perfectly clear that for me to install said patch would be very inadvisable. Also, THANK YOU, for "Life with qmail" which recently

Re: TimeZone patch

x27;t do it" variety which, since I do >*not* "already know" causes me to raise the question. > >Is there any valid technical reason for *not* applying John Saunder's >patch to date822fmt.c which causes it >to emit dates in the local timezone which I found on >h

TimeZone patch

on. Is there any valid technical reason for *not* applying John Saunder's patch to date822fmt.c which causes it to emit dates in the local timezone which I found on www.qmail.org? TIA -=dave=-

Re: Timezone

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:48:35PM -0500, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:42:49 +0100 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Why? POSIX says 2000 is not a leap year :) > > What makes you say that? I read something along those lines somewhere.. > POSIX is incorrect because i

Re: Timezone

Ian Lance Taylor writes: >From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:22:56 -0500 (EST) > >Mark Delany writes: > > I walk around http://physics.nist.gov/GenInt/Time/world.html > > might be instructive. > >Instructive, yes, but it says nothi

Re: Timezone

Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:42:49 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? POSIX says 2000 is not a leap year :) What makes you say that? POSIX is incorrect because it says that 2100 is a leap year (just in case you were worried that there wouldn't be a Y2.1K problem). POSIX does not say that

Re: Timezone

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:32:53PM -0500, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: >From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:22:56 -0500 (EST) > >Mark Delany writes: > > I walk around http://physics.nist.gov/GenInt/Time/world.html > > might be instructive. > >In

Re: Timezone

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Heh, great message about expressing yourself unambiguously. > >Now if only you could teach us (well, me ;-) how to do so >*tersely*. ;-) Simplify, but don't oversimplify. -Dave

Re: Timezone

From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:22:56 -0500 (EST) Mark Delany writes: > I walk around http://physics.nist.gov/GenInt/Time/world.html > might be instructive. Instructive, yes, but it says nothing about TAI. TAI is simply a counting of sec

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Heh, great message about expressing yourself unambiguously. > > Now if only you could teach us (well, me ;-) how to do so > *tersely*. ;-) Easy. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask no

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Heh, great message about expressing yourself unambiguously. Now if only you could teach us (well, me ;-) how to do so *tersely*. ;-) tq vm, (burley)

Re: Timezone

Mark Delany writes: > I walk around http://physics.nist.gov/GenInt/Time/world.html > might be instructive. Instructive, yes, but it says nothing about TAI. TAI is simply a counting of seconds, without UTC being taken into account. TAI + leap seconds == UTC. Unix machines claim to run on UTC

RE: Timezone

"Scott D. Yelich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Oh, puhleeze do teach me how to be a pedantic asshole! Looks like I'm halfway there already. >ps: I book marked the url on writing good code. I want to see >how much if the rules qmail breaks. The one Craig posted? It's pretty high-level; not lik

RE: Timezone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Dave Sill wrote: > So my point is, unless you like reading silly analyses of grammatical > constructs in the qmail list, you should be careful to express > yourself unambiguously. -Dave Oh, puhleeze do teach me how to be a pedantic asshole

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"Scott D. Yelich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I thought UTC was GMT... is that not correct? Ah, two of my favorite peeves...and so concisely combined. First, UTC is not GMT. There're close, but not the same. See various net resources, if you're piqued. Second, the phrase "is that not correct",

Re: Timezone

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 08:57:08AM -0700, Scott D. Yelich wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Paul Trippett wrote: > > But for Us European people EST stands for Eastern Summer Time > > and what is UTC and where is the time zone for that ? > > OIC, JIC, I use UTP

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On 20 Jan 00, at 8:57, Scott D. Yelich wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Paul Trippett wrote: > > But for Us European people EST stands for Eastern Summer Time > > and what is UTC and where is the time zone for that ? > > OIC, JIC, I use UTP at work at UPC whi

RE: Timezone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Paul Trippett wrote: > But for Us European people EST stands for Eastern Summer Time > and what is UTC and where is the time zone for that ? OIC, JIC, I use UTP at work at UPC which is in CET, ETC. I thought UTC was GMT... is that not corr

RE: Timezone

But for Us European people EST stands for Eastern Summer Time and what is UTC and where is the time zone for that ? Regards Paul T -Original Message- From: Mads E Eilertsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Timezone

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Walt Mankowski wrote: > But there's a patch available that will use your local timezone > instead. [...] Sure, but why tamper with qmail's approach? When tracking down delivery problems it's easier for humans and programs to read the Received:-lines

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ail always uses UTC. > >But there's a patch available that will use your local timezone >instead. Search on one the www.qmail.org mirrors for "timezone". But there are good reasons qmail works the way it does. If you don't understand them, you shouldn't apply the patch. -Dave

Re: Timezone

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 02:54:00PM +0100, Mads E Eilertsen wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Martin Renner wrote: > > [...] qmail is setting the time > > to "11:55:06 -". > > Yes, qmail always uses UTC. But there's a patch available that will use your lo

Re: Timezone

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Martin Renner wrote: [...] qmail is setting the time > to "11:55:06 -". Yes, qmail always uses UTC. Mads

Timezone

our email server "email.tiscon.de" is setting the time correctly (12:58:04 +0100), but qmail is setting the time to "11:55:06 -". How can we instruct qmail to insert the correct time and timezone? BTW: We are in Europe/Berlin, so +0100 is correct. Martin

[A]: qmail's timezone ( can't/shouldn't be changed )

-Martin On 20 Nov, Edward Castillo-Jakosalem wrote: : : Hi to all! : I have two questions. : : 1. How can we change the timezone that qmail is using? I would like to : change it to our localtime. : : 2. Does anyone use qmail with digital unix? If so, is there any problem or : incomp

qmail-inject and timezone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, is there a switch to ask qmail-inject to put the Date: stamp in the local timezone? I can perfectly understand why all the Received: headers use GMT - but qmail-inject? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment

qmail's timezone

Hi to all! I have two questions. 1. How can we change the timezone that qmail is using? I would like to change it to our localtime. 2. Does anyone use qmail with digital unix? If so, is there any problem or incompatibility observed? Thanks once again and more power! Regards, Edward