[qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin Version
The SpamAssassin install installs version 3.2.5 These comments apply to Clam as well, Clam is more complex, but it makes the version updating a lot easier. If the Install was per Bill Schupp's notes: http://billslinuxqmail.sourceforge.net/toaster/ Then SpamAssassin version would be 3.3.2 I've just done an install on Fedora 13 and deviated from the recipe with SpamAssassin and Clam Just curious ... -- *David Bray* http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au
[qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin Version
On 04/29/2011 03:47 PM, David Bray wrote: The SpamAssassin install installs version 3.2.5 These comments apply to Clam as well, Clam is more complex, but it makes the version updating a lot easier. If the Install was per Bill Schupp's notes: http://billslinuxqmail.sourceforge.net/toaster/ Then SpamAssassin version would be 3.3.2 I've just done an install on Fedora 13 and deviated from the recipe with SpamAssassin and Clam Just curious ... -- *David Bray* http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au I don't understand the point of this post. While Bill's Qmail Toaster is similar in many ways to QMT as they're both based on Life With Qmail, there are substantial differences as well. Sorry, but we do not support BQT here. See the corresponding email list for that. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin Version
I've just used the QMT Recipe - and the good thing is the RPM based Install, quite modular etc .. but the version of SpamAssassin winds up at 3.2.5, SpamAssassin at SpamAssassin is 3.3.1, Yum on Fedora 13 installs 3.3.2 I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind sticking with a 3.2 based package There doesn't seem to be any issue running 3.3 with this recipe - and SpamA (and ClamAV) are packages that are always changing, the rest of QMT seems quite static. *David Bray* http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au On 30/04/2011 11:08 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 04/29/2011 03:47 PM, David Bray wrote: The SpamAssassin install installs version 3.2.5 These comments apply to Clam as well, Clam is more complex, but it makes the version updating a lot easier. If the Install was per Bill Schupp's notes: http://billslinuxqmail.sourceforge.net/toaster/ Then SpamAssassin version would be 3.3.2 I've just done an install on Fedora 13 and deviated from the recipe with SpamAssassin and Clam Just curious ... -- *David Bray* http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au I don't understand the point of this post. While Bill's Qmail Toaster is similar in many ways to QMT as they're both based on Life With Qmail, there are substantial differences as well. Sorry, but we do not support BQT here. See the corresponding email list for that.
[qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin Version
SpamAssassin 3.2.5 is current for CentOS 5.x. When CentOS 6.x is available (probably in a month or so), I expect that Jake will make a spamassassin-toaster 3.3.1 (which is current for RHEL6.0) package available. While there is probably not a major problem running SA3.3 with QMT presently, there is always a possibility. QMT is relying on perl rpm packages as opposed to CPAN for perl modules, which is also a consideration. I haven't personally looked at the guidelines for upgrading SA from 3.2 to 3.3, so I don't rightly know what the impact might be. FWIW, Fedora is not recommended for production use, primarily because of the short lifetime of each version. F13 will be EOL very soon (one month after F15 is available). Is there some feature of SA 3.3.1 that you're eager to have? -- -Eric 'shubes' On 04/29/2011 06:18 PM, David Bray wrote: I've just used the QMT Recipe - and the good thing is the RPM based Install, quite modular etc .. but the version of SpamAssassin winds up at 3.2.5, SpamAssassin at SpamAssassin is 3.3.1, Yum on Fedora 13 installs 3.3.2 I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind sticking with a 3.2 based package There doesn't seem to be any issue running 3.3 with this recipe - and SpamA (and ClamAV) are packages that are always changing, the rest of QMT seems quite static. *David Bray* http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au On 30/04/2011 11:08 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 04/29/2011 03:47 PM, David Bray wrote: The SpamAssassin install installs version 3.2.5 These comments apply to Clam as well, Clam is more complex, but it makes the version updating a lot easier. If the Install was per Bill Schupp's notes: http://billslinuxqmail.sourceforge.net/toaster/ Then SpamAssassin version would be 3.3.2 I've just done an install on Fedora 13 and deviated from the recipe with SpamAssassin and Clam Just curious ... -- *David Bray* http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au I don't understand the point of this post. While Bill's Qmail Toaster is similar in many ways to QMT as they're both based on Life With Qmail, there are substantial differences as well. Sorry, but we do not support BQT here. See the corresponding email list for that. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin Version
Thanks for the Feedback Understand about the Fedora Lifetime etc. I use VM's and Fedora 13 is the current Fedora. Tried Ubuntu, CentOS and keep coming back to Fedora - mainly because the php is more up to date The driving line is not so much SA - SpamAssassin as Clam, on my last server - Fedora 12 based, there was an issue with spam and the update to SA 3.3 did get me into later rule sets (via sa-update) You can - in the Fedora 13 case, substitute in /yum install spamassassin/ with little difficulty, basically install the package, it pulls in what it needs, then create the scripts to run under daemontools. The clamav is harder, but I have it running, though untested. The end aim is just to let the rpm system update clam, rather than having to recompile to src rpm so why is that so bad ? well the toaster works fine on a VM with 20Gb HDD and 512k ram but to recompile the clam package you have to stop the services to free up memory ... so having a recipe for utilizing then yum package is nice ... which brings you back to your argument, Fedora 13 will only have a short life for clamav updates via yum *David Bray* http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au On 30/04/2011 12:14 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 is current for CentOS 5.x. When CentOS 6.x is available (probably in a month or so), I expect that Jake will make a spamassassin-toaster 3.3.1 (which is current for RHEL6.0) package available. While there is probably not a major problem running SA3.3 with QMT presently, there is always a possibility. QMT is relying on perl rpm packages as opposed to CPAN for perl modules, which is also a consideration. I haven't personally looked at the guidelines for upgrading SA from 3.2 to 3.3, so I don't rightly know what the impact might be. FWIW, Fedora is not recommended for production use, primarily because of the short lifetime of each version. F13 will be EOL very soon (one month after F15 is available). Is there some feature of SA 3.3.1 that you're eager to have?
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin Version
Am 30.04.2011 um 05:40 schrieb David Bray: Thanks for the Feedback Understand about the Fedora Lifetime etc. I use VM's and Fedora 13 is the current Fedora. Tried Ubuntu, CentOS and keep coming back to Fedora - mainly because the php is more up to date The driving line is not so much SA - SpamAssassin as Clam, on my last server - Fedora 12 based, there was an issue with spam and the update to SA 3.3 did get me into later rule sets (via sa-update) You can - in the Fedora 13 case, substitute in yum install spamassassin with little difficulty, basically install the package, it pulls in what it needs, then create the scripts to run under daemontools. The clamav is harder, but I have it running, though untested. The end aim is just to let the rpm system update clam, rather than having to recompile to src rpm so why is that so bad ? well the toaster works fine on a VM with 20Gb HDD and 512k ram but to recompile the clam package you have to stop the services to free up memory ... so having a recipe for utilizing then yum package is nice ... which brings you back to your argument, Fedora 13 will only have a short life for clamav updates via yum David Bray http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au Not everything is perfect with QMT, I would agree, but at the same time: it works! And as Eric pointed out, CentOS / RHEL 5.x is the most current version of the recommended OS for QMT. Jake is working on QMTv2 which will incorporate some changes and it will actually address some of the things you mention (like an option to just install binary packages instead of compile from source). That being said, if you'd like to help with QMT, please join the qmailtoaster-devel list as well! Cheers, Martin - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
